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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 09:25 PM
Original message
Demand that Rush Limbaugh be taken off the Armed Forces Radio Network, IMMEDIATELY
Edited on Thu Sep-27-07 09:54 PM by fedupinBushcountry
My husband spent 20 years in the Navy and has been to war (Vietnam-2 tours). I was an Ombudsman for 2 of my husband's ships making sure that the sailors and their loved ones were kept up to date on the ship's activities. We served our country as so many have.

Where does Rush Limbaugh get off calling our soldiers 'phony', as he sits his boiled ass in an air-conditioned room spewing hate all day and never had the courage to serve.

He owes EVERY soldier an apology and he should be taken off the air of the Armed Forces Radio Network. IMMEDIATELY! You can go here to make your statement

Rush Limbaugh is the biggest 'phony' of all, he had no Balls to serve.

Edited to add Feedback link
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 09:26 PM
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1. ABSOLUTELY...K&R
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LaStrega Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 04:24 PM
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87. k + r n/t
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 09:27 PM
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2. Damn right. K&R
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 09:28 PM
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3. Did he call soilders "phony" ?
what an idiot
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 09:29 PM
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5. John Kerry & Wes Clark are pissed...
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mloutre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 09:30 PM
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6. he absolutely did. And boy howdy, is it ever gonna come back to bite him in the asterisk.
As it bloody well should, too.

We're mad as hell and we ain't gonna take it any more.

This is the perfect sh*tstorm for poor widdle Rushie McLimbaugh.

And it couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

:0)

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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 05:36 PM
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96. And a well-deserved KICK
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 09:29 PM
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4. HELL YEAH!!!
:mad:


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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 09:33 PM
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7. Limbaugh isn't fit to wipe the boots of those serving in the military.
:grr: :grr: :grr:

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Blue Fire Donating Member (588 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 04:06 PM
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86. Not even with his tounge!
That quivering mass of Viagra-torqued blubber is one of our nations worst disgraces. And a tribute to the power of the 1st amendment!
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 09:35 PM
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8. I emailed them with the following statement
Limbaugh needs to be removed from your radio programming for his insulting and demeaning statement about "phony soldiers". This draft-dodging loudmouth needs to be kept off the air waves.

XXXX XXXX USAF 1970-73
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 09:36 PM
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9. Excellent
We need to demand this. Thanks.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 09:39 PM
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10. RECOMMEND! nt
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 09:40 PM
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11. They have a feedback page
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:05 PM
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52. thanks, better
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MikeNearMcChord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 09:45 PM
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12. Come on congress!! Condemn this man!
Who the hell is this bastard who punked out of 'Nam, questioning the Honor of those who serve, and speak truth to power about Iraq. To any lurking freepers, your hero is a pig! I am embarrassed to admit I used to listen to this pig in the early '90s.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:48 PM
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68. Maybe they arent through attacking Moveon yet? n/t
n/t
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 09:47 PM
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13. That felt so good.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 10:01 PM
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14. I agree, he doesn't deserve the honor of speaking to our soldiers.
What a little a**hole.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 10:03 PM
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15. And when will there be a Congressional resolution condemning that loathsome fuckwit?
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:59 AM
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28. I don't think there should be one
The MoveOn resolutions were wrong, and so would be having a resolution about this. There are pther, more appropriate ways to respond, such as the excellent idea in the OP.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 02:53 PM
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79. I think Mitchum's point is
Edited on Fri Sep-28-07 02:54 PM by Skittles
they would never even think about condemning that repuke bastard - "dissent" seems to be condemned only when it comes from Deomcrats. It's the hypocrisy he is pointing out.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 10:08 PM
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16. You'll get what you want as soon as DEMS control both houses of congress lol nt
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 10:13 PM
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17. What does writing a statement to AFRN have to do with Congress?
This is about what we do!
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 10:15 PM
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18. Sorry
But I am in no mood to put up with BS posts , so just sit on your ass and do nothing, this is about demanding he be taken off the air. Who mentioned anything about Congress. I can do something NOW , and you ?
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 10:50 PM
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19. I just did that.

I am not a member of the military. And in fact I oppose the invasion in Iraq. I do so because it is unnecessary. It put our troops, and the civilians of Iraq, in unneeded harms way. But I never criticize the soldiers for that. However, it has come to my attention that someone with a great responsibility has done just that. You know already who I am talking about. And this man has great power of using our airwaves with our permission. But he has violated our trust by criticizing more than just a few soldiers. Rush Limbaugh called our brave men "phonies". This goes far beyond anything I can accept. I have never even considered contacting the Armed Forces Radio until this. I urge you to eliminate Mr. Limbaugh from your programming lineup. He is not a healthy influence on our troops.
Thank you.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 10:59 PM
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20. Done
and I salute you, as a Navy wife I know exactly what you are talking about

My husband is now thankfully retired though
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 12:49 AM
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21. K&R
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elvisbear Donating Member (545 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:23 AM
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22. Kick
:kick:
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:32 AM
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23. k+r
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 06:15 AM
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24. Kick
:kick:
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:41 AM
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35. .
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 11:37 AM
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49. .
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:42 AM
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25. K&R! n/t
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:53 AM
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26. K&R
:patriot:

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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:18 AM
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27. wow, shocking that he's on the Armed Forces Radio Network
As everyone has said here, even apart from his horrible shtick overall, this statement should ban him from that network for life.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:01 AM
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29. I wrote
Dear Sir(s) and/or Madame(s);

I have never felt it to be appropriate for the Armed Forces Radio Network to broadcast any politically partisan material (whether slanted left, right, up, down, backward or sideways), let alone a regular 3-hour daily talk show. It's not right, and it never has been.

daughter and granddaughter of U.S. Veterans,
****(my real name)****
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OregonBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:04 AM
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30. Done.
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Flarney Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:20 AM
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31. Leave him on and drive more people to us. Just a thought... n/t
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jn2375 Donating Member (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:27 AM
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32. hell yes
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mahatmakanejeeves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:30 AM
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33. No.
"The cure for free speech is more free speech."
- Nat Hentoff, who got kicked out of the ACLU for opposing abortion.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:33 AM
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34. Do you realize that, until 2006, Limbaugh was the ONLY talk show on AFR?
AFAIK, he's now one of a select FOUR.

Surely, we have another, less hateful voice, we can send to the troops.
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Duppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:06 AM
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36. thank you. done...
with pleasure.
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burf Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:12 AM
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37. Thanks for the tip
Message sent.

burf
1SG US Army (Ret)
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SlingBlade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:20 AM
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38. Rush
Assclown of the free world
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CRK7376 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:33 AM
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39. Ditto....
I mean you are correct. While I was in KOrea, his show was carried by AFRN and I turned it off everyday. The only good thing about the Rush show in Korea...it was followed by NPR! I wrote AFRN asking that they remove Rush from the airways.
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colorado_ufo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:36 AM
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40. Limbaugh the Loser should go off the air, period.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 11:00 AM
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41. Please provide a link to Limbaugh's statement - we need proof.
If Rush Limbaugh called the troops "phony" then this is a huge scandal. Time to get him off the air entirely. Please provide a link. Is there are a transcript, an audio tape of him doing this?
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BrklynLib at work Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 11:02 AM
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44. Keith Olbermann played it on his show last night. Transcript at this link.
Edited on Fri Sep-28-07 11:06 AM by BrklynLib at work
http://mediamatters.org/items/200709270010?f=h_top


If you google "Limbaugh, phony" you will get all the documentation you need.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 11:07 AM
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45. Thank you. I'll put this to use immediately.
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BrklynLib at work Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 11:02 AM
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42. I hope that the soldiers out there listening are as outraged as we are, and also demand that Mr.
"I couldn't go into the military cause I had a pimple on my butt" gets thrown off Armed Forces Radio.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 11:02 AM
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43. New Info here
Diary at Daily Kos includes link to the radio network operated by they DoD.
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jackster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 11:11 AM
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46. DONE!
enough is enough - this chickenhawk has got to go!
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BlueGirlRedState Donating Member (416 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 11:23 AM
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47. Sent email to my senators
Senator, you were so quick to condemn Moveon.org, I hope you are similarly outraged about the comments that Rush Limbaugh made calling the soliders "phonies" and will quickly introduce a bill to condemn Rush Limbaugh and have him removed from the Armed Forces Radio Network.

Again, as I have called your office and left my opinon previously:
U.S. out of Iraq
Keep the U.S. out of Iran

Let's work on our own issues and stop spending almost $200 Billion on destroying other parts of the world. We need health care, education and infracture here in the U.S.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:19 PM
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57. SWEET
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eagleswing963 Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 11:25 AM
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48. Put the Anal Cyst back in
That allowed him to be 4-F!!!

At least the cyst will be smarter then his brain!!
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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 11:43 AM
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50. WHERE IS REPUBLICAN RESOLUTION DENOUNCING LIMBAUGH? n/t
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:19 PM
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56. ASk Cornyn as he was the one hell-bent on the getting the Resolution passed!
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:47 PM
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67. Or better yet, ask Reid & Pelosi to talk one up. LOL! n/t
n/t
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:46 PM
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65. I'd settle for a DEM resolution, Where is it? n/t
n/t
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 11:44 AM
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51. My letter to Armed Forces Radio
28 September 2007
Armed Forces Radio

Dear Sir(s):

I take exception to Mr. Rush Limbaugh's reference to our soldiers as "phony." Although I did not serve in the armed forces, my dad was career Navy and my uncle is a retired Air Force general, so "supporting the troops" was a given in my family. I was taught to honor the service of those Americans who serve in the United States armed forces.

It was bad enough when Rush and his ilk showed contempt for Sen. Max Cleland and Sen. John Kerry by questioning their military service. I was shocked at the treatment of these two brave veterans by Rush. I never thought I would ever see the day that two recipients of military honors, including the Purple Heart, would receive such disrespectful treatment.

Now for Rush to call our soldiers fighting in Iraq as "phony" is beyond belief. And it should not be tolerated. I hope you will reconsider airing his radio show on your network.

Our troops deserve better--much, much better.

Sincerely,
name
place


Now, on to my Senators!

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ckimmy57 Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 06:54 PM
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103. Excellent letter
:bounce: :patriot: :bounce: :patriot:

I'm off to send mine.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:07 PM
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53. We need to get after CONGRESS---I cc'd my memo to Senators/REP
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:17 PM
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54. Some prev. posts here (Clark, kerry, Dean Jan Schakowsky etc):





Forum Name General Discussion
Topic subject Update: Kerry calls on Republicans to condemn Limbaugh's statement; Gen. Clark sends your messages
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
1924993, Update: Kerry calls on Republicans to condemn Limbaugh's statement; Gen. Clark sends your messages
Posted by ProSense on Thu Sep-27-07 06:26 PM

Kerry's statement:

"This disgusting attack from Rush Limbaugh, cheerleader for the Chicken Hawk wing of the far right, is an insult to American troops. In a single moment on his show, Limbaugh managed to question the patriotism of men and women in uniform who have put their lives on the line and many who died for his right to sit safely in his air conditioned studio peddling hate. On August 19th, The New York Times published an op-ed by seven members of the U.S. Army's 82nd Airborne Division critical of George Bush's Iraq policy. Two of those soldiers were killed earlier this month in Baghdad. Does Mr. Limbaugh dare assert that these heroes were 'phony soldiers'? Mr. Limbaugh owes an apology to everyone who has ever worn the uniform of our country, and an apology to the families of every soldier buried in Arlington National Cemetery. He is an embarrassment to his Party, and I expect the Republicans who flock to his microphone will now condemn this indefensible statement."


Wes Clark get's into the act, from Jon Soltz diary at Daily Kos:

UPDATE: If you want to help me get on Rush's show, please click here to send Rush a letter. Wes Clark will send your message directly to Rush Limbaugh!

http://ga4.org/campaign/rushlimbaugh



Forum Name General Discussion
Topic subject Flood AFRTS with your messages to remove Limbaugh from tax-payer funded radio
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
1930664, Flood AFRTS with your messages to remove Limbaugh from tax-payer funded radio
Posted by ProSense on Fri Sep-28-07 11:55 AM

Read this Daily Kos diary, and then send American Forces Radio and Television Service a message.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/9/28/113010/670

http://myafn.dodmedia.osd.mil/email.aspx
George Bush Must Condemn Rush Limbaugh (Update)
by AllDemsOnBoard
Fri Sep 28, 2007 at 08:45:49 AM PDT

Limbaugh makes a despicable comment about real soldiers and the wingnuts and Republicans go AWOL! Has anyone one heard anything from the " pretend to support the troops, condemn MoveOn" contingency? Where is George Bush? He was outraged last week.

* AllDemsOnBoard's diary :: ::
*

Bush: MoveOn.org ad on Petraeus 'disgusting'

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A MoveOn.org political advertisement that criticized the top U.S. commander in Iraq was "disgusting," President Bush said Thursday, accusing Democrats of being afraid to criticize the anti-war group.

Bush told reporters at a White House news conference that MoveOn.org's ad in The New York Times about Gen. David Petraeus was a "sorry deal." The September 10 full-page ad was titled "General Petraeus or General Betray Us?"

"I felt like the ad was an attack, not only on Gen. Petraeus, but on the U.S. military," Bush said. "And I was disappointed that not more leaders in the Democratic Party spoke out strongly against that kind of ad."

Bush said that "most Democrats are afraid of irritating a left-wing group like MoveOn.org" and they "are more afraid of irritating them than they are of irritating the United States military."

link

Well Mr. Bush, right wing cheerleader Rush Limbaugh just attacked the military. He has branded the troops you're sending to fight your war in Iraq "phony soldiers." Will you speak out strongly against him and call him "disgusting" and a "sorry deal"?

Where is John Cornyn?

Limbaugh is a partisan hack who continues to disparage members of the U.S. Armed Forces and their families. So why is he still on taxpayer-funded American Forces Radio Network?

09:00 AM PACIFIC U.S. MON - FRI

00:00 AP Newscast
03:00 Sporting News Radio Sports
05:00 Command Info
06:00 Rush Limbaugh

AFRTS is the American Forces Radio and Television Service. It is part of the Department of Defense, and is headquartered in Alexandria, Virginia. The AFRTS mission is to communicate Department of Defense policies, priorities, programs, goals and initiatives. AFRTS provides stateside radio and television programming, "a touch of home," to U.S. service men and women, DoD civilians, and their families serving outside the continental United States. AFRTS includes the Radio and Television Production Office (RTPO), The Pentagon Channel NewsCenter, and the Defense Media Center.

link

Send AFRTS a message.


Another terrific diary here.



Forum Name General Discussion
Topic subject Chicago Tribune blog: Moveon.org: Democrats retaliate with Rush talk
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
1928257, Chicago Tribune blog: Moveon.org: Democrats retaliate with Rush talk
Posted by Enrique on Fri Sep-28-07 07:33 AM

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2007/09...

MovingOn: Democrats retaliate with Rush talk

by Mark Silva

The Democrats, who suffered a deep drilling over the MoveOn.org newspaper ad that called Gen. David Petraeus General Betray Us, have been laying in wait for a chance to pounce on Republicans for betraying the troops.

And they have found it in a traditional foil, radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh, who made a passing comment this week about his attitude towards soldiers who oppose the war in Iraq, calling them phony soldiers.

Democrats pounced in unison, with the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee launching a salvo against Limbaugh. Rush Limbaughs personal attack on our men and women in uniform is reprehensible, Rep. Chris Van Hollen, chairman of the Democrats campaigns for Congress, said last night. It minimizes the sacrifice our troops in Iraq and their families are making and has no place in the public discourse.

Rush Limbaugh owes our military and their families an apology for his hurtful comments that minimize their service to our country, Van Hollen continued.
...........

And to round out the chorus of criticism for Limbaugh, Howard Dean, chairman of the Democratic National Committee and a staunch opponent of the war who campaigned against it in his bid for the partys presidential nomination in 2004, spoke out.

Rush Limbaugh should immediately apologize to our brave men and women in uniform for undermining the sacrifices they make every day serving our country, Dean said in a statement issued last night. Limbaugh's comments were un-American, have no place in the public discourse, and show just how far he'll go to defend President Bush's failed policy in Iraq. America's troops deserve better, and Limbaugh owes them an apology."

So there: Limbaughs apology will roll around just about the time the Democratic Party apologizes for MoveOn.org.

But the fallout from MoveOn ad may last a lot longer than the brush fire over the overheated rhetoric of Radio Limbaugh.


Forum Name Political Videos
Topic subject Rep. Pallone on Rush Limbaugh's "Phony Soldiers" Comment
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
58207, Rep. Pallone on Rush Limbaugh's "Phony Soldiers" Comment
Posted by babylonsister on Thu Sep-27-07 08:10 PM



Forum Name General Discussion: Politics
Topic subject Statement by Rep. Jan Schakowsky on Limbaugh
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
3557332, Statement by Rep. Jan Schakowsky on Limbaugh
Posted by Canuckistanian on Thu Sep-27-07 08:09 PM

Rep. Jan Schakowsky: Our retired General William Oden, the head of the National Security Agency during the Reagan administration, his advice, quote: the sensible policy is not to stay the course in Iraq, it is rapid withdrawal, re-establishing strong relations with our allies General Oden says that until the US withdraws from Iraq, and admits a strategic error, no such coalition can be formed, thus those who fear leaving a mess are helping make things worse while preventing a new strategic approach with some promise of success. Does Rush Limbaugh really want to look General Oden in the eye and call him a phony? And while were at it, lets pay attention to the 72% of american troops serving in iraq who also think the US should exit the country within the next year and more than one in four who say the troops should leave immediately according to the Zogby poll. I guess theyre all a bunch of phonies according to Rush Limbaugh.


http://www.speaker.gov/blog/?p=803


http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/09/democrats_demand_...

Democrats Blast Limbaugh For Saying That Antiwar Troops Are "Phony Soldiers"

By Greg Sargent - September 27, 2007, 6:16PM

As we reported earlier today over at The Horse's Mouth, Rush Limbaugh said on his radio show that soldiers who favor U.S. withdrawal from Iraq are "phony soldiers."

The assertion -- reminiscent of MoveOn's attack on Petraeus, which generated enormous controversy when Republicans attacked the group -- has the potential to be equally explosive, since some troops who are currently fighting in Iraq, and a handful who have died there, have questioned the war in the media.

Now Dems are stepping forward to blast his remark. First up: the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. Here's the statement just released by DCCC chief Chris Van Hollen:

Rush Limbaughs personal attack on our men and women in uniform is reprehensible. It minimizes the sacrifice our troops in Iraq and their families are making and has no place in the public discourse. Rush Limbaugh owes our military and their families an apology for his hurtful comments that minimize their service to our country.
.........

Forum Name General Discussion
Topic subject Will Lawmakers Now Condemn Limbaugh?
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
1924501, Will Lawmakers Now Condemn Limbaugh?
Posted by Canuckistanian on Thu Sep-27-07 05:22 PM

A Challenge For Lawmakers Who Voted To Attack MoveOn Ad: Will They Now Condemn Limbaugh?


On September 20, 72 Senators voted for the highly politicized, bait and switch resolution that condemned a newspaper ad by MoveOn.org. The amendment, offered by Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX), expressly stated that the Senate would condemn any effort to attack the honor and integrity of all members of the United States Armed Forces:limbaugh

(b) Sense of Senate.It is the sense of the Senate

(1) to reaffirm its support for all the men and women of the United States Armed Forces, including General David H. Petraeus, Commanding General, Multi-National Force-Iraq;

(2) to strongly condemn any effort to attack the honor and integrity of General Petraeus and all the members of the United States Armed Forces; and

(3) to specifically repudiate the unwarranted personal attack on General Petraeus by the liberal activist group Moveon.org.

On his radio show yesterday, right-wing radio host Rush Limbaugh attacked the honor and integrity of some members of the Armed Forces. Limbaugh attacked troops who hold a different viewpoint than his own as phony soldiers. Iraq war vet Jon Soltz writes that Limbaughs comments are directed at the majority of troops on the ground in Iraq because they do not back the Presidents failed policy.

For all the Senators who rushed to make political hay over an empty resolution, the spotlight is on them. Will they now enforce their sense of the Senate and condemn Rush Limbaugh?

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/27/limbaugh-moveon /

More at Crooks and Liars:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/09/27/limbaugh-troop... /



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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:18 PM
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55. When I was in the service
Back in the 90's the military flatly refused to show Limbaugh because tehy thought it would be political endorsement. What the hell has changed that Faux news and Limbaugh would have been allowed in the first place?
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 02:17 PM
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73. that's a VERY good question
And by the way, thank you for serving our country.

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:22 PM
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58. done and recommended
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:27 PM
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59. We shouldn't have to demand anything.
Frankly I'm a little tired of having to beg, prod and cajole the Democrats on the hill to get off their asses and then when you do all you get back is campaign fund raising letter.

Excuse my French but DO SOMETHING MOTHERFUCKERS!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:29 PM
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60. ain't that the truth!---but gotta keep at it!
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:55 PM
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69. Good point. No one begged them to attack Moveon. I would think they would love to take on Rush...
...and that we wouldnt even have to mention it to them...

...my guess is they will let it slide, and maybe make a "statement" that no one but DUers will see.

I hope to be 100% incorrect- time will tell.
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 05:21 PM
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94. Well I am
whether you agree or not. You see I have watched my husband's patriotism be questioned far to much these last seven years, and I am sick of the right demeaning a soldier, a veteran, a citizen just because they don't walk lock step with this administration. It's about time we as citizens change that scenario around and stop the hate once and for all. EOM.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:29 PM
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61. Somebody was on top of this yesterday...
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:45 PM
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63. Sorry
I didn't see it, but it was the first thing I also thought of when I heard about what the Chicken hawk coward had said. Took me a few hours to calm down enough so every other word in my post wasn't expletive.

:thumbsup: to you for your quickness on this idea.
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DWilliamsamh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:37 PM
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62. My Letter To AFR
Here is the text of te feedback form I just sent to AFR:


I am a veteran of the US Army. I am the son of a Vietnam Era Navy aircraft mechanic. I am the grand son of a WWII Army captain on one side and a WWII Navy Seaman on the other. I respect and honor the sacrifices of my fellow soldiers who are serving now and I am proud of the tradition of honor passed down to me by my grandfathers who served in the war that saved the planet from Nazis and Fascism, and my father who served voluntarily in a very unpopular time.

We have a duty to make sure that anything that dishonors our men and women in the field is not passed onto them while in combat, especially on AFR.

To that end I hope that you seriously re-examine your decision to carry the Rush Limbaugh Radio show from the EIB network. Mr. Limbaugh seriously insulted all of our fighting men and women when he called soldiers (even generals presumably) who have expressed their disagreement with Iraq policy (as some have done even while continuing to do there duty to the country and their buddies) by calling these brave men and women "phonies." It takes courage to volunteer to go into harms way. It takes equally as much courage to serve honorably, and then publicly disagree with the policy of Commander-in-Chief, and continue to do ones duty. These are not the actions of phonies. It is appalling that a man who never served, and in fact took a deferment for dubious medical reasons (a cyst? Are you kidding me?) when he was called to serve.

Rush Limbaugh is a coward who sits in an air conditioned studio while spewing hate at our soldiers and advocating domestic policies that make a mockery of the constitution the armed forces are sworn to defend. Please make sure his hate is no longer disseminated on your air waves.

Sincerely,

Douglas S. Williams


I also included my address and phone number. I don't want anyone who reads that at AFR to be able to dismiss my sentiments as being from a keyboard warrior, unwilling to stand up and be counted. The only reason I cut it from my post here is, I know some creepy little freeper would start harassing me and I don't feel like stomping a mud hole in anyone's ass. I gave up on violence a long time ago, but the old instincts are still there and I am a pragmatist. :-)
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 02:36 PM
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76. great letter!
And, thank you for serving our country.
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DWilliamsamh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 02:48 PM
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78. NP Interesting coincidence....
I use the name Morpheus (your cat?) for fantasy football!!! LOL
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:46 PM
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64. Maybe we could get the DEMS who censured Moveon to back us up on this.
LOL!!!
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:46 PM
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66. What a prick!
Between O'Leilly's racism and Limpball's stupidity, hypocrisy and callousness I don't know who's worse.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:57 PM
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70. Done. I vowed that as soon as his show was removed I would donate generously
and frequently to Arm Forces Radio.

Rec!
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:59 PM
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71. Rush has hosted the president and vice president...he should have watched his mouth.
Rush has always been a joke but his so called credibility has been established by Bush and Cheney making appearances on his show. That said. Rush should have watched his mouth...he can't say something worse than nappy headed hos and expect that he would not have to pay some consequences. How much more insulting could he be to the military than calling the ones who don't agree with him "phony soldiers". If the military and the GOP let him get away with these comments then they have no right ever again to condemn anything anyone says about the military publicly.
Where's the senate outrage now? AREN'T THE SENATE AND HOUSE DEMS WILLING TO INTRODUCE AN AMENDMENT TO CONDEMN RUSH LIMBAUGH LIKE THE REPUBLICANS DID TO CONDEMN MOVE ON? ARE THEY NOT WILLING TO STOOP TO THE SAME LEVEL AND CONDEMN A FAR RIGHT ORGANIZATION FOR INSULTING OUR MEN IN UNIFORM IN ACTIVE DUTY??

IF NOT, THEN STOP JOINING WITH REPUBLICANS WHEN THEY STOOP TO SUCH RIDICULOUS LEVELS. Half the dems in the senate voted with republicans on this ridiculous action which was a distraction and a waste of time. To an optimist that means the senate is half fool rather than half ignorant.
The GOP's hypocrisy is demonstrated by their complete silence about the Rush insult proving they don't care about attacking or smearing or insulting men in our military unless it gains them some political points. It's not the business of the congress to be involved in collectively condemning ads and talk shows for their comments. It's the senate and the house that should be condemned for participating in such wasteful distractions just to score political points.
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farmhand Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 02:15 PM
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72. Who cares about hate filled radio spewing to hate filled people?
I could care less, theres no difference between the radio and the people listening on AFR.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 02:20 PM
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74. welcome to my ignore button
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 02:40 PM
Response to Reply #72
77. Dumbest, most fucked up post I've seen all day
:eyes:

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southpaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 03:10 PM
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81. Hell with the ignore button
I add posters like this to my buddy list

That way I have a link to their profile. It's oh so satisfying to gaze upon the inevitable tombstone! :evilgrin:
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yewberry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 04:28 PM
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89. Wanna see exactly why you're wrong?
Click here.

"Hate-filled people," my butt.

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Borchkins Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 02:22 PM
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75. Done.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 03:08 PM
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80. Armed Forces Radio (AFR(-this is their reply:


had sent a memo to the Armed Forces Radio (AFR) and this is their reply:



-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Rush Limbaugh calling troops 'phony soldiers"
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:08:06 -0700
From: AffiliateWebAdmin@dodmedia.osd.mil
To: xxxxx


AFN Affiliate Relations has submitted a response to your question. Please click the link below to review their response.

http://myafn.dodmedia.osd.mil/EmailResponse.aspx?f=1555

Thank you for your questions and comments.

AFN Affiliate Relations


AFN Response:

xxxx

First, thanks for your input. AFN has an obligation, backed by Congressional mandate, to provide our audience access to the same variety and diversity of programming that they would enjoy if they were back in the States. Because political talk radio is among the most popular stateside radio formats, AFN currently offers four political radio talk shows on our AFN|radio schedule: Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity represent the conservative viewpoint and Ed Schultz and Alan Colmes represent the liberal viewpoint. We make our choices based on popularity with the American audience and we don't censor programs. Please remember that AFN strives to provide its overseas audience with a choice and lets them decide for themselves what they want to see and hear. There is no requirement for our audience to listen to anything they personally disagree with. To review the balance we strive to achieve via the totality of our radio and TV schedules, please visit http://www.myafn.net . Again, thanks for your input, and for your service. V/R AFN Affiliate Relations
If you have any more questions in regards to this matter please fill out the form below:



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republicansarewhores Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 03:18 PM
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82. Chickenshit Chickenhawk


More neocon chickenshits who hate America:

www.chickenhawkcards.com

They all suck.

Limbaugh's BEGGING to get fragged.


RAW
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 03:28 PM
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83. "...Alan Colmes represent the liberal viewpoint" ... They are joking, right? RIGHT?
What a joke.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 03:38 PM
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84. Lets all send them some Recommendations!
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 04:42 PM
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91. Alan Colmes???? represents the Liberal viewpoint? OF COURSE!!! Put a freakin'
Edited on Fri Sep-28-07 04:42 PM by in_cog_ni_to
wimpy ass, so-called Liberal on instead of someone like Randi Rhodes or Thom Hartmann! What a crock. The Conservative voice is the rabid RWers InSANITY and Limbaugh, but the Liberal voices are 2 conservative so-called Liberals. While Schultz isn't as bad as Colmes, he certainly isn't a Thom Hartmann or a Randi Rhodes.
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LastLiberal in PalmSprings Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 03:40 PM
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85. MoveOn's ad was privately funded, Limbaugh get paid by the taxpayers
to spew his filth on AFRN. Seems to me that the Dems in Congress could cut off funding for his program anytime they like. But of course, that would require they take action and might be criticized by the Repugs and, heavens!, by Rush Limbaugh!
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 04:25 PM
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88. Kick. (nt)
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 04:32 PM
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90. Thanks Fedup...letter sent. (Hubby was military too. So I'm happy to spread the word)
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 04:44 PM
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92. Wow, talk about a no-brainer. nt
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 04:47 PM
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93. I did
I emailed both my Senators (Inhofe and Coburn :eyes: ) and demanded he be removed from AFR as well as being censured by the Senate like MoveOn. I'm waiting for a reply with their bullshit excuses. :eyes:
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Mortos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:54 PM
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109. Hey those are my shitty senators too
I wonder how they will respond?
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 05:34 PM
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95. My email statement to AFRN.FM's feedback page:
To the Operations Manager and Program Director:

As a veteran of active duty combat arms and the reserves, and also as a former broadcast specialist with an AFN affiliate in Germany, I am appalled that the draft-dodging likes of Rush Limbaugh has your airwaves to use as a forum to denegrate the service of our U.S. servicemen and women. One may agree or disagree with their politics, but they have a right to their own opinions of the progress of this "War on Terror" without some chair-bound, mouth-breathing, yellow chickenhawk like Limbaugh calling into question their patriotism or dedication to their mission.

I respectfully demand that you pull the Rush Limbaugh Show from your lineup and replace it with the voice of someone who has a modicum of credibility and who shows the proper respect due the members of our military community.

Sincerely,
<Barrymores Ghost>
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 05:37 PM
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97. K&R (n/t)
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 05:41 PM
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98. He doesn't support the troops
His free speech is killing U.S. Soldiers while in harms way.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 05:43 PM
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99. Done! K&R
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NoGodsNoMasters Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 06:14 PM
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100. Isn't it funny....
Rush is such a war hawk.... Yet he's NEVER served or even attempted to. I guess he just believes in this war to risk somebody else's kids.
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FunkyLeprechaun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 06:41 PM
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101. And I just asked my senator if she could reconsider the MoveOn vote
And she said it was due to respecting the military....

I wish I was on her staff sometimes, just to tell her that what a crock that ia.... I can tell no one on her staff does any research. I'm not blaming her but I'm blaming her staff.

I told her that if it comes to republicans they don't care, but when it comes to dems, it's another story.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 06:53 PM
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102. k&r
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Blaukraut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:21 PM
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104. kick n/t
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AikidoSoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:24 PM
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105. K & R N/T
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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:45 PM
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106. Done! n/t
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Cybergata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:48 PM
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107. Just sent them my opinion of . . .
that lame pig who does nothing but spead dishonor and untruths across the airwaves. Thank your husband for his service. My husband was in the Navy as well during the Vietnam War, and he will always be proud of his service.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:05 PM
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108. They're definitely getting an eyeful! n/t
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Stump Donating Member (808 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:56 PM
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110. K&R n/t
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:04 PM
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111. Letter I sent to my sen (cornyn) yesterday

I have never had occasion to contact you regarding any issue or proposed legislation because, frankly, your views are so different from mine on almost every issue that I felt it would not be an efficient use of my time. However, recently an issue has presented itself on which I am sure we can agree.

As a patriotic American and father in law to a soldier in the United States Army, I was disgusted at the comment made by right wing radio personality Rush Limbaugh calling many of our troops phony soldiers. After all, these troops were just excercising a right that they have agreed to die for, if necessary.

In light of your recent resolution regarding General Petraeus, I am sure that you agree with me that Limbaughs statement cannot stand. After all, this was an insult to the men and women who actually do the fighting and dying in Iraq. I know that I can count on you as my senator to do the right thing (pardon the pun) and offer a resolution to censure Mr. Limbaugh and to have his insulting program removed from Armed Services Radio.

Please let me know when you will be offering this resolution and what action you will take to have Limbaughs program removed from Armed Services Radio. In the alternative, please inform me why you will not take these necessary steps to preserve the dignity and honor of our military.

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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:12 PM
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113. Excellent letter
Please let us know his reply.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:10 PM
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112. Thank you for this post. Rush has crossed over the rubicon with this comment.
Rush will probably blame the troops for losing the war in Iraq the same way he blamed the troops for losing the Vietnam war for the last 20 years.

This is what happens to cheerleaders like Rush when their team can't win the big game.
They blame the players.
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:13 PM
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114. For what its worth.
Edited on Fri Sep-28-07 09:41 PM by DiktatrW
I sent this.

Mr Limbaugh has recently called a significant portion of our armed forces "Phony Soldiers".

It is my understanding that he is broadcast regularly on the only English speaking media our overseas personnel receive daily.

As a former Marine who served overseas in two West Pac tours of duty, I can only say that I find this situation quite untenable.

I have known that for some time our troops have had limited access to the news of the day, having served through your blackouts of the entire evening news at times in the barracks of Iwakuni Japan when it was for some reason deemed necessary.

The simple fact that our Armed Forces radio network has for years allowed this undoubtedly right wing extremist to have access to the young minds of our troops in a restricted environment, without any counterbalance from sane, rationale, opposition gives me little hope that any action will be taken to stop his abuse of American soldiers who digress from the disjointed agenda he espouses.

Grow a pair for the the soldiers sake and dump this piece of constipated matter.

I did my four in the corps, and you guys were my life line to America. If serving up this anal cyst to our troops in their greatest time of need is the best you can do, then I regret the fact that my tax dollars go to pay your salary, and may history forget you were our brethren.

Semper Fi


VMFA 212
Kaneohe Bay HI.






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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:30 PM
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115. He is brain dead for some time now and some say needs to be taken off life support all together
He has reached that stage in the "brain dead" cycle that is called by researchers in psychiatry "blowviating windmills" and is further accentuated by his oral complex of sucking on huge cigars. Senator (I won't mention his name) who is also a doctor has listened to the Air America and Armed services network broadcasts and has proclaimed that Rushes brain is still rattling and pronounced him to be alive with a loud "its alive, its alive" and immediately sent guards and camera crews to guard the plug that is said to keep him in his blowviating windmill, vegetative state.
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