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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 05:50 PM
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Blackwater: Are you scared yet? by Naomi Wolf
Edited on Thu Sep-27-07 05:54 PM by kpete
Blackwater: Are you scared yet?
by Naomi Wolf
Thu Sep 27, 2007

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In little noticed news, http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0907/091207kp1.htm Blackwater, Raytheon, Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, and Arinc were recently awarded a collective $15 billion -- yes, billion -- from the Pentagon to conduct global counter-narcotics operations. This means that Blackwater can be deployed to engage with citizens on a whole new level of intimacy anywhere around the world -- including here at home. What is scarier than scary is that Blackwaters overall plans are to do more and more of its armed and dangerous security operations on U.S. soil.

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Blackwater is coming home to Main Street, and one of our key constitutional protections is at stake. The future for growth is directed at increased deployment in the US in cases of natural disaster -- or in the event of a public emergency. This is a very dangerous situation, of course, now that laws have been passed that let the President decide on his say-so alone what a public emergency might be.

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Blackwater is available to anyone who can write the checks. If there is a need to restore public order in the next Presidential election -- a power that the President now can define as he sees fit -- Blackwater can be deployed. If the President declares an emergency, Blackwater can be deployed. And history shows us how very quickly citizen dissent and democratic processes close down when physically intimidating men -- who are armed and not answerable to the people -- are abroad in the land.

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(According to `the blueprint' described in my book, unless people wake up in time, we in America are likely to see a call for a `security requirement' for Blackwater to be deployed to `protect' Congress and to be deployed around voting areas `to maintain public order', and, unless we intervene, we will see them start to do crowd control when there are antiwar marches or other demonstrations. Then, again according to historical models, protesters will increasingly start to get hurt for `resisting arrest' or for `provocations.')

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read the rest at:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/9/27/163547/214
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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 05:53 PM
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1. Gee, too bad the people's U.S. army is "tied up" overseas.
Edited on Thu Sep-27-07 05:55 PM by tiptoe
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 05:54 PM
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2. This is an issue we can use to bring sane Republicans to our side
I'm fairly sure that most people don't want their security and protection to be handled by private corporations. Run with it Dems!
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mrfrapp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:15 PM
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12. Posse Comitatus
Edited on Thu Sep-27-07 06:16 PM by mrfrapp
Privatization of the military is a clear attempt at an end run around the Posse Comitatus act. I don't think Republicans could care less if the US military is privatised or not unless you spell out the implications.

Moreover, although I wouldn't use this in an argument with a Republican, it's fairly clear that Blackwater is intended to be a private army for the Republican party. Once you consider the political and religious background of its founder, there's no other conclusion. (I don't know enough about the other mercenary armies to comment).

Even if I'm completely wrong and my assessment is completely false, I simply don't think this type of thing should be tolerated in a modern democracy because it's just begging for abuse.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:25 PM
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20. That's why I used the qualifier "sane". nt
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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:28 PM
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22. Does anyone believe Hillary or DLC will step up HARD against this? (I don't)
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 03:09 PM
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87. no she won't
blackwater protects the elites from the riff raff/ us.
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:30 PM
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24. Excellent observation!!!!
May I do a belated welcome to DU? :hi: :patriot: I've never seen you posts before.

Your bottom line is spot-on. Privatization of the military (or our police force, a public service) should NEVER EVER be privatized simply on the basis of extreme potential for abuse.
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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 07:22 PM
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37. Posse Comitatus: R.I.P.
There used to be the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 to prevent the federal government from using federal troops -- or federalized state troops, i.e., National Guard units -- as a federal law enforcement agency. It states:

"Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both." I'm not sure how the "Air Force" made it into an 1878 law, but there it is. Maybe referring to hot air balloon warfare?

Unfortunately, Posse Comitatus died on Oct. 17 last year when Bushie signed the Defense Authorization Bill for fiscal year 2007, which contained a little-known provision that allows the Codpiece in Chief to declare a "public emergency," station federal troops anywhere in America and take control of state-based National Guard units without the consent of the governor or local authorities, in order to "suppress public disorder."

Now what this has to do with Blackwater I'm not sure. It seems that there might be some resistance on the part of US troops to shoot and kill their parents if ordered to do so. Bushie gets around that by allowing Guard units to be deployed anywhere, so Oregonian Guard members could do their enforcing in Massachusetts, and vice versa. This would probably eliminate most of the problems with killing their own families.

But maybe US troops, forced to stay in Iraq without a clear mission, denied even the minor luxury of rotating out for a decent interval between forced tours of duty, screwed by the VA, sickened by whatever the hell they're encountering over there -- depleted uranium, bio-toxins, chemical weapons -- and weary beyond words of fighting and dying for Bushie's oil buddies and the GOP's shriveling credibility -- maybe these guys aren't the most reliable people to call on to kill and maim their countrymen.

Enter Blackwater, the iron fist inside the velvet glove of "compassionate conservatism." They'll shoot anybody for a buck. So maybe that's the deal. Troops are unreliable, so Blackwater steps up to "suppress public disorder."

Amerika 2.0; it's like your daddy's country, only much more better.


wp
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djp2 Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 03:24 PM
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73. Predicted this when they kicked our of Iraq
I predicted this when Blackwater was "expelled" from Iraq. I said since our National Guard, et al, is "busy" in IRAQ, we would "NEED" Blackwater to do other jobs here in the USA. gotta keep the big boys happy......
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 02:13 AM
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59. I don't think most of the Republican ELITE will care
The Republican Rank and File are another matter entirely. I don't think they would like the idea of their protection being handled by private mercenaries.
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 05:55 PM
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3. Good, Lord!!!! I never even thought about blackwater being on our own streets,...
,...when I read about that $15 BILLION contract awarded.

This is a move to privatize our public servants/services, which is aweful!

shit

I think I'll just retreat from this effin' nightmare and go,...sleep or something.
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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 05:56 PM
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4. I suspected this would happen. nt
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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 05:57 PM
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5. .
Edited on Thu Sep-27-07 05:57 PM by tiptoe
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:05 PM
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8. I keep thinking something will stop this evolving fascism. I AM SCARED!!!
But, I am also getting to a point where I feel like I have only one choice left and that is to let go and allow whatever happens to happen while I focus on creating some sense of peace in my life and the lives of those near me. As strange as this may sound, I am actually thinking there have to be some healthy, centered people left to recuperate after this period of neocon destruction leaving this nation in rubble and ruin.

I know those thoughts sound strange because never EVER did I imagine reaching a place where I would actually have such thoughts.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:05 PM
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7. Oh, we have.
My community is loaded with ex-Special Forces personnel.

We have been talking about this quite a lot lately.

If they ever show up here, they will all die.

We are, at the least, as well armed and we know the hills.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 07:14 PM
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36. It's good to know that at least one community can protect itself
against tyranny. We should all be thinking along those lines...better late than never, as they say.

Re We have been talking about this quite a lot lately.

If they ever show up here, they will all die.

We are, at the least, as well armed and we know the hills.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 07:28 PM
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40. In this case, never is forever.
It all started when a bunch of us were talking about all of our locals being worked up about earthquake preparedness.

Somebody said, "Hell, I'm more worried about Blackwater".

That's when we started planning.

You would not believe the lengths to which we have gone.

We are as serious as Death.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 09:16 PM
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44. Again, it's good to know the Jedi are on top of the situation
in your community anyway. That's an attitude that needs to spread to other communities, and probably will if it hasn't already.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 12:32 AM
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47. What is "Jedi"?
What the heck is "Jedi"?

I have been out of everything for a long, long time.

Jedi?
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:35 AM
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53. The forces of good
It is a reference to Star Wars, and those who fought on the side of the good. :hi:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:42 AM
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54. Watch the 1970s Star Wars movies
Edited on Fri Sep-28-07 01:44 AM by nadinbrzezinski
for a fast primer. The recent ones suck.

;-)

On edit...

Realize the first three were written about Nixon and that era... as well as the ones done recently

My favorite line on the death of the Republic from the recent ones... is

And this is how democracy dies, in a whimper.

Lucas wrote those as a mythyical structure of the rise of tyranny and the fight against it in a galaxy far, far, far away... aka Nixon's America

Why some of the dialogue resonated recently

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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:58 AM
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57. Oh, movies....
Edited on Fri Sep-28-07 01:59 AM by TomInTib
The last movie I paid any attention to was "Minnie and Moskowitz" (or something to that effect).

Took my sons to see "Roger Rabbit", "Dick Tracy", something like that.

I don't know much about any movies.

Just what I see on the teevee.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 02:03 AM
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58. Oh those have been on Teevee too
the history channel special did point out what the movies were about... which was good... since many said, well the star wars movies are bout today.

No, they are about Nixon, and his lovely times...

They apply to today for other reasons, scarily valid reasons.

I do pay attention since I do produce popular culture

;-)
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:17 AM
Response to Reply #7
65. They have "black-copters" so, don't forget these:
http://www.the-launch-pad.com/grail.htm

Otherwise, you guys may be (?)

Never Give Up!
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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:03 PM
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6. Dem-controlled Cong. committees need do REAL investigation of 9/11 & so-called "terror threat"
Edited on Thu Sep-27-07 06:04 PM by tiptoe
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:07 PM
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9. I'd prefer they FULLY investigate these contracts. n/t
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:09 PM
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10. AH!!! THEY SHOULD INVESTIGATE THE DOD "PORK" "PORK" "PORK"!!!
Stoopid, greedy repukes LUUUUV using that word, "pork". Why not utilize/adapt/adopt their emote words?
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:10 PM
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11. The new Gestapo. BW is the neo-con SS.
Why would anyone think that they won't kill US citizens as indiscriminately as Iraqi citizens.

With the atrocities being committed by BW and other private gun totting militias, Congress should move to outlaw private mercenaries.

But, no, BW is expanding and growing. 15 Billion. That's one shit load of money. How many weaponized helicopters will that buy? How many detention centers can be built with that.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:20 PM
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14. Blackwater Force on US Streets?
They were in New Orleans a few days after Katrina hit. Photos have been posted on DU.
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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:21 PM
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15. One reason for Neocon scheme of perpetual war "there" is to "invent need" for BW "here". Scum.
Edited on Thu Sep-27-07 06:51 PM by tiptoe
National Guard resources "pre-occupied"

Troops "pinned down" away from US with incessant Stop-Loss orders.

US Treasury drain

This is all a scheme.

F*&*(&*() RICE.

Why don't I think DLC candidates ..and Hillary ... will step up about this matter?
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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:38 PM
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27. Now we see what's behind * meme: 'We fight them there, so we don't have to here' BULLSH&*(*T
Edited on Thu Sep-27-07 07:28 PM by tiptoe
*Co has the troops/resources 'fighting there', so Cheney's private/corporatist, RW-theocratic/fundamentalist SS has basis for initiating their "services" here and less-hampered...all the while Grover Norquist's plan to drain the US Treasury continues to weaken the US economy and government domestic-program spending!!! (Bush wants $200 BILLION more for the fraud "war")

Condoleeza Rice: A trustworthy American statesman
:sarcasm:

Dick Cheney: "In Charge on September 11, according to Norman Mineta: 'Apprently letting orders to stand down...remain'"
:sarcasm:
Re-Open 9/11 "Inside Demolition Job" Investigation

Tim Griffin: "Resigned US Attorney who 'protected voting rights for Americans'...with once-direct-mail-business-owner-Rove's illegal Caging lists" ( RFK Jr interviews Greg Palast ... Conyers 'not done' with Tim Griffin )
:mad:

They STOLE the power the now ABUSE ... in 2000 and 2004...they'll try again in 2008!
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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:52 PM
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32. .
Edited on Thu Sep-27-07 06:53 PM by tiptoe
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 02:26 PM
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70. Because they think it's a good idea.
That's why they won't "step up".

See, Hillary will win in 2008. And the war will go on, and the rewarding of these contracts will go on, but we'll all "feel" better, because we "won" the election. After all, aren't the House, Senate and White House controlled by Dems?

But the Dems will do nothing, and be plagued by corruption scandals, and the surge in their popularity will fade, and in, say, 10 years or so, the Republicans will make a come back to "clean up Washington" just like we made this comeback.

And by then we'll probably be used to Blackwater guys in town, and so long as you do your job and don't cause any trouble, they ain't so bad.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:24 PM
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17. And bu$Hitler at the helm... (n/t)
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:36 PM
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26. Their means of living depends upon loyalty to their employer. If they'll do it "over there",...
,...would they be willing to do it at home?

Thing is, it is an absolute mistake for any of us to believe we are too 'pure-hearted' for something as tragic as that suggested by the OP and many of the responses to this thread to happen. QUITE THE CONTRARY, unless we are willing to acknowledge our own potential to engage in weak inhumane behavior, the increasingly likelihood we will end up allowing barbarianism.

That's why we have the rule of law, after all.
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Robson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:17 PM
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13. One more reason for Impeachment
Bush/Cheney needs his hands tied defending his ass from impeachment charges instead of plotting to expand the private mercenary armies that should have absolutely no power under our constitution.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:23 PM
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16. Blackwater was on the scene in New Orleans after Katrina, just a warm up....
They really answer to no one except those with the checkbook.

IMHO they are a greater threat than many of the fringe groups the Govt seems worried about.
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Daphne08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:24 PM
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18. I've been afraid of this.
It's very scary.

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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:24 PM
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19. How can they do this?
Neocon Fascists. Cheney/Bush has set in motion the destruction of this country. They only reason they care about 'drugs' is to make and control the money. It's always about the money. Somebody needs to get that opium from Afghanistan through Turkey, that's all. Well, and the coke from South America to Hollywood. Dirty, filthy, drug runners. Gives them an excuse to kick in any door in Amerika and slit the couch cushions and tear up the house, throw a bag over the father's head and kidnap the children. All without oversight and consequences. Oh, that's Iraq.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:28 PM
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23. They DO IT because YOU ALLOW THEM TO.
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:43 PM
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29. thanks so much
for making it personal
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neweurope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 03:19 PM
Response to Reply #23
72. I second that.
I don't mean the people in this forum but the Democrats in Congress and Senate. Democrats have voted on most of the atrocities that led to this.

--------------------------

Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:27 PM
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21. I've been saying this for a long time. Private armies ought to scare the fuck out of people.
Especially private armies owned by some creepy religious-right billionaire.
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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:34 PM
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25. Privatized "security forces" at home may be ultimate reason to BRING THE TROOPS back. NOW!!
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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:39 PM
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28. The IRAQIs are onto Blackwater thugs, there. Americans will take care of same, here. (Will the DLC?)
Edited on Thu Sep-27-07 07:04 PM by tiptoe
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 05:50 PM
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78. maybe that's why the troops are being kept THERE.
i even scared myself saying that.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:45 PM
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30. Holy shit!
This is outrageous! My country is turning into something I can't recognize anymore. All because of that "catalyzing event, like a new Pearl harbor"! Too many are unaware of these types of things until it's too late. I'm going to start printing articles like this and leaving them everywhere. laundrymats, waiting rooms, wherever people may pick one up. The damned M$M certainly isn't going to tell the people about it! :grr:
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:03 AM
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51. Good idea, Wildbill!
We need to spread the word. :thumbsup:
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nightrider767 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:50 PM
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31. Blackwater = Homeland Gestapo?
The Gestapo began with the recruitment of local police to form a new federal political police force. Sort of like our troopers leaving active duty to join a new military organization no longer under the control of the DOD.

"The role of the Gestapo was to investigate and combat all tendencies dangerous to the state. wikopedia

Who knows what the future plans are for Blackwater. I don't like the idea of them in Iraq, we ought to have the Army doing those jobs.

I'm not claiming Blackwater to be a new gestapo, but I certainly think we ought to watch them very closely. This whole thing just stinks to high heaven from my perspective.

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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 07:26 PM
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38. Plus, you know good and damn well those Blackwater thugs
aren't sworn to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States like every member of the regular military is.

Re The Gestapo began with the recruitment of local police to form a new federal political police force. Sort of like our troopers leaving active duty to join a new military organization no longer under the control of the DOD.

They aren't under the UCMJ either. They are basically answerable to nobody except whoever pays them. And all of that is for one very good reason: There purpose is to DESTROY the U.S. Constitution, not protect it.
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nightrider767 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 08:23 PM
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42. Think Of It This Way
How many liberal Democrats are on Blackwaters payroll running around with guns. I'm guessing of course, but I think it would be safe to assume they are all about as far right wing as you can get. And not the intellectual right-wing, but the ditto-head right wing. And that can be scary.

And like you were alluding to, in the US Military our troopers are taught that they are under no obligation for follow illegal or immoral orders. Not so for Blackwater.

Guesses at this point, but all worth noting.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 09:08 PM
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43. I assume they are mostly far-right psychopaths,
not answerable to the Constitution or any code of law, and not answerable to their own consciences either. Right-wing psychopaths aren't known for being encumbered with such a useless appendage as a conscience, after all. I doubt if most of them would even recognize an immoral order, let alone refrain from following one.
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moodforaday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 06:29 AM
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63. They're not even Americans, necessarily
Blackwater has been recruiting people from Chile, for example, and apparently runs training missions in Colombia. Google for Jeremy Scahill or read his new book. Here's one of his recent appearances:

Democracy Now! | Blackwater: The Rise of the World's Most Powerful Mercenary Army
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/03/20/133...



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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:53 PM
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33. Which Dem Candidates are trustworthy-wholeheartedly to confront this?
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 07:01 PM
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34. kick! n/t
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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 07:11 PM
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35. blackwater is the new NRA = National republican Army
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:39 AM
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66. or CBOBRG.
CBOBRG = Current Bushtcher Of Baghdad's Republican Guards


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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 07:28 PM
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39. "Security Company Death Squads Timeline by Dirk Adriaensens and Sarah Meyer"
features extensive Blackwater links and information on 19 other mercenaries
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Erik Prince articles

from Media Mouse.org
"The Far Right in West Michigan:Erik Prince"
http://www.mediamouse.org/resources/right.php?personId=...

from Source Watch.org
"Erik Prince"
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Erik_Prince

IMPEACH CHENEY FIRST
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 08:14 PM
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41. Why is it that Kucinich is the only one speaking out about our constitution?
isn't the constitution and our rights one of the most important issues we could face? Where are the candidates that are supposed to be electable and presidential? We need a voice for the people in politics and right now only the unelectable guy is speaking out for us? Do we just keep ignoring him like the media until its too late or do we open our eyes and ears and listen to what he is saying. If you don't like Kucinich, thats fine, but you should demand your candidates are standing up at least as much as he is if not more. Demand change in our government, use your vote wisely, we do have the power to change things if we choose.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 09:29 PM
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45. Why does she have such a problem with a private army run by Catholic authoritarians?
That was always such a good idea in the past.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 10:56 PM
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46. One of the scariest quotes
After you've read the book, you'll realize that you cannot rely on democracy to heal democracy, as you could if our democracy was strong, and checks and balances were in place.


I have the feeling we've already passed that point. If we hadn't, then the Democratic victory in the 2006 would have meant that Bush would be impeached and removed from office, our troops would be coming home from the Iraq war, and all of the corruption would slowly be rooted out and punished.

But that hasn't happened. Bush is still getting blank checks and rubber stamps from our now-Democratic Congress, we're still at war in Iraq, and the war has in fact, escalated, the corruption hasn't even started to slow down, and we're looking at a war with Iran and yet more destruction of our liberties.

If you'll excuse me, I'll be hiding in my basement, cleaning my guns. I fear that revolution will be the only way to restore liberty in this country.
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davekriss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:38 AM
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67. I agree with you
I think we're long past the point where "our democracy can heal democracy". I have been asking myself why this Democratic congress hasn't moved to rescind laws like the Military Commissions Act of 2006, which essentially allows Bush to determine at his convenience what is torture and subject to Geneva Convention, and what is not (as well as other fun stuff); why hasn't this Congress defunded the war; why hasn't it tightened FISA or moved to ensure the Bush administration can no longer snoop nor search American citizens without probable cause documented via a judicially obtained warrant -- the list goes on and on. What's going on here when a Democratic congress acts more like a Republicrat apparatchik?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 12:55 AM
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48. The time is comming
and when it is finally here all of us will have to make a choice...

And that is all I have to say...

Never mind I fear we will be "good germans" in the end
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:00 AM
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49. Are there any psychiatrists specializing in cultural insanity?
Sometimes, it seems the whole society has gone "over the edge." Is modern culture mentally defective, or what?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:45 AM
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56. Students of history have the diagnosis
what ails this culture is FEAR.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 03:53 PM
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75. In PoliSci, we called it paranoid politics. It was the butt of jokes, not the JUNTA then.
And those laughed at, the John Birch Society and Joe McCarthy's cliche of pinko-haters, seem rather mild by comparison to the current Neo Theocons.
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:01 AM
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50. I don't have a link, but I did read recently that Blackwater is...
trying to have a facility or presence in each state in the U.S.

That, combined with a story that casually mentioned that a virtual fence is planned for both our Southern AND the Northern border, made me do a little research on immigrating to Canada before it's too late to get out.

I am thinking of sending a copy of Wolf's book to everyone on my holiday list this year. (Yeah, yeah, I'm such a fun-lover. :+ )

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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:10 AM
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52. For those with eyes wide shut...
Fascism is not only here now, it is being embraced by many non-repugs within the government. It is past time to Wake The Fuck Up and create a stand against this tyranny.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:43 AM
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55. This surprises no one who watched the slow murder of NOLA
Blackwater is an enemy of the state.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 02:36 AM
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60. If you want weapons, now is the time.
The Second Amendment is probably the only part of the Bill of Rights that hasn't been completely eviscerated.

Some people are thinking of leaving, some are making other plans. But now's the time to make preparations, while you still can.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 03:48 AM
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61. one of the most disgusting aspects of using mercenary armies like Blackwater is . . .
that their employees make several times the amount of money paid to U.S. soldiers doing even more dangerous jobs in the same theaters of operation . . . how we can justify paying minimal tax dollars to our armed forces and maximum tax dollars to "contractors" doing support work (supposedly) that the military used to do is beyond me . . . it's disgraceful, and it dishonors our fighting forces . . .
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 05:23 AM
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62. (sotto voce) surprise
those boots clapping against the pavement aren't from a movie....
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 06:47 AM
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64. So how long will it take before we are paying to bring Cuban military advisers
into the country to assist our own insurgency?

Or, which will be the first state to call its own guard units into service to battle the private "security forces"?


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NoGodsNoMasters Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 05:56 PM
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79. Seriously...
This is looking worse all the time...
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:45 PM
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81. I wasn't joking. We have seen this before.
Fidel has made his medical, professional, and most especially, his military experts available to desperate people all over the world for over 40 years.

Cuban mercenaries are among the most feared adversaries on the planet. They are very good at what they do and have both frustrated and showed up both of the world's most recent superpowers over and over again.

Hugo Chavez might well be a resource in the future as well. Thankfully, most people on the world are brighter that the average American and are able to see past the heinous actions of our masters and bear us no ill will, though we may well deserve it.



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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:00 AM
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68. This is why we need a liberal interpretation of the 2nd Amendment.


Such things are less scary when you have the means to fight back should they over extend their authority.

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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 02:20 PM
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69. Extremely scared.
"They're planning to do away with 'posse comitatus'!" Used to be a rallying cry for the right wing nut jobs when Clinton was in office.

Turns out the laugh was on them. Bush did it, and now he's getting ready to impose martial law in the streets with mercenaries.

If you haven't got a gun, get one.
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 03:10 PM
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71. kicking
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neweurope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 03:30 PM
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74. kick

------------

Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 05:39 PM
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76. kick! n/t
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 05:44 PM
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77. A friend of mine in the NG is going to Iraq; he has never heard of Blackwater
This kind of blew my mind. He is career Air National Guard and he is being deployed to Iraq in January. He will not be in combat- his job involves maintenance of the F-16s and such. He really is not very 'political' and just views what he does as a job. In our last conversation he did say that he was sick of this war and that he felt Rumsfeld was a liar and he was very disappointed in this administration. That's about as negative as he gets. The name Blackwater did not even ring a bell with him so I told him about it. I guess you really have to block things out to do this job.
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:31 PM
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80. Yea, it's not human natural to be personally involved in killing.
Wish him luck and tell him to be as smart as he can. Hope we can stop this before he moves on to Iran.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 12:39 AM
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82. A kick for DU's anti-fascists
IMPEACH CHENEY FIRST
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 12:49 AM
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84. Yes let's!
:patriot:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 12:47 AM
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83. Damn fuckers. Don't count on a wake-up by anyone in merika any time soon.
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 12:02 PM
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85. "Guerrilla Warfare" - by Che Guevara
Edited on Sat Sep-29-07 12:05 PM by paparush
Get it.
Read it.
Prepare.

http://www.amazon.com/Guerrilla-Warfare-Authorized-Erne...

Also checkout the "Special Forces Guerilla Warfare Manual"
http://www.amazon.com/Special-Forces-Guerrilla-Warfare-...

And "War of the Flea: The Classic Study of Guerrilla Warfare"
http://www.amazon.com/War-Flea-Classic-Guerrilla-Warfar...
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 02:48 PM
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86. everything is in place, just waiting for marshal law and the signal.
Edited on Sat Sep-29-07 03:03 PM by ooglymoogly
Most of the military and National Guard bogged down in Iraq leaving this country defenseless.
A dictionary of signing statements giving dictator "*" supreme power uber alles.
Halliburton has created vast concentration camps.
A corporate private military trained and ready to treat Americans like Iraqi's are treated as we speak.
The last domino to fall will be another 9-11 likeness which all the corporate noise is predicting. So fasten your seat belts and prepare for a catastrophe.

And leaving no stone unturned, there is the added plum that our speaker and majority leader while grandstanding on issues that will never pass quietly let the preparations and financing for a corporate dictatoship pass as quietly as possible and thereby siting in the catbird seat shouting under their breath "we are with you Hr. Shitler, its a go".


For whom does the bell toll?
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bananarepublican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 04:46 AM
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89. Blackwater staff in civilian guise could well stage violent demonstrations to trigger martial law.
The Pentagon could have signed a no bid contract for Blackwater to create massive civil disruption sso that Bush declaring martial law seems justified.
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Mendocino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 04:36 AM
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88. BlackwaterUSA-corporate philosophy
"Pay us big bucks, tell us who to shoot, problem solved"
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