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plantwomyn Donating Member (779 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 06:48 PM
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Another BLOW to military recruitment
Today at a Senate hearing Sen. Tom Harkin told Gen. Pace that his conmments about homosexuals demoralized those under his command and asked if he had over time rethought his position on homosexuals in the military.
It comes at about 1:23:15 in the show.
http://www.cspan.org/homepage.aspCat=Current_Event&Code=Congress&ShowVidNum=7&Rot_Cat_CD=Congress&Rot_HT=&Rot_WD=&ShowVidDays=365&ShowVidDesc=&ArchiveDays=30illegal codeplayClip(clip32613)

Gen. Pace himed and hawed and explained that because of his upbringing he just could not condone the idea of openly gay soldiers. He said it was his reponsibility and authority to obey the law of the land, and to object if something is illegal or immoral.
Well all hell broke loose cuz the Code Pink gals asked What about thou shalt not kill?
During the evacuation on the Pinks, Sen. Harkin yelled at someone who questioned his asking such an odviously honorable, war hero like dude such a thing. Sen. Harkin explained that he indeed neededto ask the question and was not in need of a lecture.
Once they got kicked out the Pink gals, Gen.Pace added that if they wanted to make changes to Don't ask don't tell, it would be fine as long as it doesn't condone what he believes to be activity, wheather hetro or homo, that in his upbringing is not right.
Sen. Harkin then explained to the General that we don't have laws in this country any longer against homosexuality. So there so not such law for the Gereral to uphold.
Gen. Pace then explains that the uniform code of military justice makes it illegal for members of the same sex or members of the opposite sex to have sex with each other. "It is the law and I am upholding it."
:rofl:
Check out this blog.
http://calladus.blogspot.com/2007/03/hypocrisy-of-tony-perkins-general-pace.html

The Manual for Courts-Martial specifically includes fellatio and cunnilingus between married heterosexual partners to be in violation of Article 125. (It’s on page A23-15).

What does General Peter Pace think of Article 125 as applied to married couples? Would he consider Fellatio and cunnilingus between a married couple to be immoral, not to be condoned, unlawful?

How would he police such a thing?

Who the fuck does he think he's fooling.
I can see the recruiting posters now.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 06:52 PM
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1. I guess that manual was written by missionaries. nt
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 07:00 PM
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4. In which position were these missionaries??? n/t
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 06:55 PM
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2. So, he claims no STRAIGHT military members are getting it on? He's upholding THAT law?
Doin' a heck of a job, Pacey. :eyes:
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 07:07 PM
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5. By his logic no one but celibate priests and nuns
should be eligible to serve in the military.
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 06:58 PM
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3. well, if he's married and
has kids who are younger than the years he's served in the Military, shouldn't he, by his own admission, be arrested and Dishonorably Discharged? Or does that just apply to Others.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 07:19 PM
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6. So Pace is worried a gay dude might look at him in the trenches?
And we're relying on uptight wimps like this to defend the country? I guess all a foreign enemy has to do is enlist their version of the "Sacred Band" of Thebes, and Pace thinks American soldiers will run shrieking from the battlefield. These conservatives are really a sorry ass bunch of weaklings.
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