Secretary of State, who keeps private life shrouded, co-owns home with female filmmaker

[warrior1]

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

http://rawstory.com//news/2007/Secretary_of_State_who_keeps_private_0914.html

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice co-owned a home and shared a line of credit with another woman, according to Washington Post diplomatic correspondent Glenn Kessler, who reveals the information in his new book, The Confidante: Condoleezza Rice and the Creation of the Bush Legacy.

Kessler discussed the revelations with talk-show host and gay activist Michaelangelo Signorile Friday.

According to the book, Rice owns a home together with Randy Bean, a documentary filmmaker who once worked with Bill Moyers. Kessler made the discovery by looking through real estate records.

Bean explains the joint ownership and line of credit in the book by saying she had medical bills which left her financially drained and Rice helped her by co-purchasing the house along with a third man, Coit Blacker, a Stanford professor. Blacker is openly gay.

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[Beaverhausen]

1. Oh, we have a Secretary of State? I had forgotten

she seems to not be doing squat these days.

[napi21]

7. Several weeks ago there were reports that Condi was disagreeing with Shrub.

Suddenly, she's GONE from any public exposure at all! Looks like Shrub SOP to me.

[pretty_lies]

2. Well, Good For Her

Shame that she had to conceal something from her bigoted base that civilized folks shouldn't care about either way.

[Baby Snooks]

13. The shame is all hers...

She is just added to the list of the hypocrites in this hatemongering administration. The shame is all hers.

[msmcghee]

17. You call her a hypocrite?

I have never heard her say anything against gays. Do you have a link?

[AlCzervik]

21. the problem is that she willingly works for an administration that does say things

about gays, she enables it with her silence.

[pretty_lies]

25. The Bush Administration Is Not That Unfriendly To Gays

Bush and his administration, while using all the code words to suggest to their conservative base they want to roll back gay rights, have basically supported the status quo on gay rights.

http://civilliberty.about.com/od/profiles/p/george_w_bush.htm

Lesbian and Gay Rights - Status Quo: Although President Bush strongly advocated a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage at the federal level, it has never passed. Bush has made no attempt to rescind President Clinton's Executive Order 13087, banning discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation in federal employment. Bush opposed a 2007 bill that would have federalized hate crime investigations while adding sexual orientation to the list of hate crime categories, but his stated rationale had to do with the federalization of hate crimes, not the addition of sexual orientation as a protected category.

That said, they're a bunch of war criminals, but it's not clear to me that Condi has been hypocritical over gay rights, even if she IS gay.

The whole idea of liberals using conservatives' sexuality as a weapon against them is abhorrent and bigoted. The Craig scandal left a foul taste in my mouth for that reason.

[mondo joe]

32. Bullshit. Absolute bullshit.

Bushco has added fuel to existing anti gay fires, and has been complicit in outlawing asme sex unions at state levels. They have eliminated access to workplace protections.

[Bjorn Against]

48. You can't be serious.

They ran much of the 2004 campaign based off pure homophobia. Gay marriage was what they used to get the vote out.

You're suggesting that because the rewriting of the Constitution failed the Bush Administration should be forgiven for endorsing it? Let me assure you the reason it failed was not because Bush helped defeat it. And while Bush opposed hate crimes legislation that is OK according to you because he did not publicly state he was doing it because of gays being included.

If you think it is "abhorrent and bigoted" of us to call out the abhorrent bigots you are dead wrong, the Bush Administration is extremely hateful and I do not understand how anyone could suggest they are not that bad for the GLBT community.

[Richard Steele]

52. Bwahahaha! Pretty Lies, please!

[terrya]

53. That's absolutely wrong.

Sponsoring and advocating the Federal Marriage Amendment, several appoinments of virulently anti-gay persons to various positions within the administration, an attempt early on to roll back the protections gay and lesbian Federal Government employees got during the Clinton Administration. Plus refusing to lift "DADT" in the military (and what about that deafening silence from the White House when General Peter Pace made those vile comments about homosexuality being immoral when asked about gay and lesbian soldiers serving openly in the military)

This administration opposes hate crimes legislation. And this President will veto the Employment Non-Discrimination Act when Congress passes it. Count on it.

This administration is openly hostile towards GLBT Americans. The evidence is pretty overwhelmng.

[pretty_lies]

54. None Of This Is Different To What Clinton Did

With the exception of the Federal Marriage Amendment, which didn't pass.

See my above post. Bush could have repealed the federal anti-discrimination law. He hasn't.

I don't dispute that the Republicans are anti-gay. My point is that Bush is more talk than substance on rolling back gay rights, he panders to his base.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

58. "Clinton did it too?"

:rofl:

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[Fading Captain]

76. Nonsense

The Bush administration worked to make sure that several states had gay marriage votes in an effort the shore up the electoral college.

[foreigncorrespondent]

56. And just look...

...at all the dirty minds here today. Because she co-owns a home with two other people, one being female, and the other being an openly gay male, some here automatically believe Rice must be a lesbian.

There is absolutely no hypocrisy to point out. Where is the proof that she is a lesbian in the first place. Co-ownership isn't going to cut it. Or is this going to be another so and so is gay because they are right wing?

[terrya]

57. I don't quite get it myself.

I have never, ever, heard her saying anything disparaging towards gay and lesbian people. On the contrary, a while back she swore in a gay man to an Administration post...and she pointedly acknowledged his partner.

I don't know if she's a lesbian or not. I can only hope that this doesn't turn into a "so and so is right wing, so they must be gay" thing we've seen here ad nauseum.

[foreigncorrespondent]

64. That's my fear, terrya...

...and I see it is becoming true, just by reading a couple of threads (including this one) this morning.

The way some of the minds work around here. It is exactly what the right wing does in order to discriminate against us, they head directly into the bedroom and don't look back.

People co-share and co-own home together all the time, and there is nothing sexual about it. But because Condi works for the Bush* admin, this news automatically makes her a lesbian, and a hypocrite, and I for one am getting fed up with that kind of attitude.

[terrya]

66. I hear you, foreigncorrespondent.

I've seen it here before...and it really got sickening during the Larry Craig thing.

It's...reflexive for some people around here. And pleading "oh, it's the hypocrisy!" doesn't mitigate how disgusting it is.

[Hatchling]

26. What shame?

Whatever "may" be going on between them, it is at least done in the privacy of their own home, not in a public bathroom!

[msmcghee]

16. Good for you . .

. . for saying that.

[Richard Steele]

55. Wrong. So very, very WRONG.

"had to conceal something from her bigoted base"?

WRONG.

That statement assumes that she was somehow BORN with
a "base", and that she has no choice of who is in it.

WRONG.

She CHOSE to build a "base", she CHOSE to build it by
appealing to bigots.

She could have built a different base while being HONEST
about who she is, but she CHOSE not to do so.

"Had to" doesn't enter into it.

[warrior1]

3. I know. Shocking.

[LisaM]

4. Bean and Rice?

Oh, the jokes that can come out of that.......

[enid602]

9. Blacker, Bean and Rice, no less

Isn't that a delicacy in the South

[Ghost in the Machine]

19. "isn't that a delicacy in the South?" .... ummm, No! Try pinto beans & corn bread

Black beans & rice is more of Latin American or South Western dish. Try any Cuban restaurant in Miami. Black beans & *yellow* rice is even better, imho.

[babylonsister]

29. I thought beans and rice is real popular in New Orleans and around

that neck of the woods?

[Ghost in the Machine]

45. Most Cajun places I've eaten use either Pinto beans or Red beans

aka 'red beans ~n~ rice' or 'cajun pintos'. Someone from New Orleans may be able to set me straight on that if I'm wrong.

[Mabus]

20. and she was a Randy Bean at that

:rofl:

http://longevity2.stanford.edu/personRandy.html

[Critters2]

40. LOL!! nt

[malaise]

49. That's real Cuban food

Arrest this rice pudding :D

[Tektonik]

12. hadn't thought of that

:rofl: thanks for making almost choke on my pita bread I'm snacking on :rofl: :rofl:

[LisaM]

22. Glad to be of assistance

I guess it really should be RICE and BEANs, not the other way around.

[no_hypocrisy]

5. That kind of information is easy to get by going to the county title office

and looking up recorded deeds.

Sorry, but yawn!

[NMDemDist2]

6. wow, what a great friend

I always buy houses for my gal pals when they run into trouble, don't you??

:hide:

nice looking lady who has a long list of liberal jobs, PBS ect

[AlCzervik]

8. Rice has friends, who knew?

[la la]

36. THAT'S what surprises me! n/t

[Mountainman]

10. Who gives a damn who is gay and who is not?

Is there ever going to be a day when someone's gayness is not an issue? Don't gays have the right to privacy and a right to what ever political party they want to belong to? I don't get stories like this.

[mondo joe]

14. The First amendment ensures a free press so we can know what

our reps and appointees are up to.

Given the anti-gay policies of this white house, this is news.

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[LisaM]

15. When they support those who promote anti-gay agendas

I'm sorry, but it IS an issue. I'm not really opining on this case, because it could be true that Ms. Bean couldn't afford a house in the very pricey Palo Alto area and that they simply co-own the house.

[donheld]

30. Indeed Indeed Indeed

When will people here at DU get it?

[Virginia Dare]

43. When they get out of our bedrooms, we'll get out of theirs...n/t

[Cha]

50. It's not whether anyone is Gay or

NOT..it's the Hypocricy. I should think that would be obvious by now.

[AZBlue]

72. Some days it seems more important to a certain group on DU than to the GOP in general.

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[theNotoriousP.I.G.]

18. you didn't just say that did you?

OY!

[Bluebear]

27. No, I didn't just read that here. Did I?

[Stephanie]

23. Here she is - photo and bio >>>

Randy Bean
Executive Producer
Documentaries and Television Projects

Research Interests
Randy oversees the creation, production and distribution of Center content in the video format. She is an experienced producer,director and writer, having worked for public television stations and network news divisions. She was a Knight Fellow at Stanford, and has worked at the University in a variety of executive producer roles since 1996.

Randy Bean is executive producer for documentaries and special television projects at Stanford University. She serves as a consultant on media and communications for the SCL, and oversees the creation, production and distribution of Center content, in video and other formats. Bean is an award-winning documentary filmmaker and experienced broadcast journalist. She worked as a producer with Bill Moyers at WNET in New York, and covered major news stories for both ABC News and NBC News in their Washington bureaus. She came to Stanford as a Knight Professional Journalism Fellow, and moved to California to be a staff producer, director and writer of current affairs programs and investigative documentaries at KQED in San Francisco. She founded the Stanford Channel in 1995 and managed its operations until 2001. She has worked as writer and executive producer on a number of broadcast-quality Stanford productions, including Becoming Stanford: The Making of an American University, Seizing Power: The Steel Seizure Case Re-visited, The Stanford Presidency and A World of Change: The International Initiative at Stanford University. Her latest Stanford production, "What Were They Thinking?" Originalism, Music and the Constitution, will air on public television in Spring 2007. Bean attended Northwestern University and has a B.A. with special honors in political science from the George Washington University.

http://longevity2.stanford.edu/personRandy.html

[Stephanie]

31. Holy cow! She once interned wtih Bill Moyers! lol

http://knight.stanford.edu/fellows/1982/index.html

Knight Fellowships Class of 1982



Top row: Evans Witt, Walter Robinson, Brenda Worthington, Elisabet Van Nostrand, James O'Hara, Fatima Cabanas, Dennis McDougal, Lyle Nelson, (director), Diane Lindquist, Randy Bean
Front row: Molly Noone (staff), James Files, Lydia Wasowicz, Edvin Beitiks, Bailey Thomson, Marek Samotyj, Amy Witt, Henrick Bering-Jensen, Qing Luo, Harry Press (associate director)

[Stephanie]

35. lol! FOOTBALL brought them together >>>

Rice earned her PhD in international relations at Denver in 1981, and became an assistant professor at Stanford, where the football program was flagging. She went to every home game anyway, and met her best friend in the process--Randy Bean, also a daughter of a minister who raised her to love football.

"People ask how we became friends and I always say, `God and football,’’’ said Bean, a documentary filmmaker for Stanford. "I could forgive Condi her politics because she loved football, and likewise she could forgive mine.’’

http://www.eastandard.net/archives/cl/hm_news/news.php?articleid=12571&date=7/2/2005

[Stephanie]

37. Bean was helping Rice install a webcam! >>>

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=14185234

When Bush won reelection in 2004, Rice was ready to go back to California. She hadn't expected to be national security advisor in the first place. She told friends she hadn't even wanted that job because her father had been terribly ill during Bush's first campaign. Though she had been Bush's foreign policy advisor in the 2000 campaign, she wanted to return to California to be with her dad. But Bush persisted, and Rice finally said yes. Randy Bean had begun to explore installing a webcam system and other ways for Rice to keep in touch with her father when he died just four days after she was named national security advisor. "That was his gift to her," Bean said. "He freed her to go to Washington, unburdened."

[Cha]

51. The real news here is that condi

went in with a Liberal to buy a house?!!

[reality based]

24. She's not gay. She once referred to her husband. Somebody named George. n/t

[Virginia Dare]

42. Plus, she has a longtime male "escort"

Gene Upshaw...:sarcasm:

[valerief]

28. COME AND KNOCK ON OUR DOOR!

We'll be waiting for you.

(Anyone know the rest of the song?)

[donheld]

33. Rice and,,,Beans?????

You telling me Rice has a relationship with Beans who knew :shrug::rofl::rofl:

[valerief]

34. Excellent. "Beans and rice is very nice." And 3's Company, too. nt

[Jacobin]

38. This sounds just a tad off for the Moral Majority View

on housing situations.

[Virginia Dare]

44. They probably wouldn't be too happy that Ms. Bean..

is a raging liberal either..:rofl:

[midlife_mo_Jo]

39. But I thought that Bush was her husband?

Maybe she's bi I'm sure the bisexual community can't wait to claim her.:evilgrin:

[Critters2]

41. The community hasn't named me our official spokesperson, yet,

but I know I'd rather she hung her hat somewhere else.

[KingFlorez]

46. Condoleezza is not gay, she thinks Bush is her husband

[enid602]

47. OMG

The only thing I've heard about Condi's personal life (from a friend in DC) is that she's a devout member of a somewhat conservative fundamentalist church. OMG . . . does this mean she's a . . .fundalesbian?

[Canuckistanian]

59. "Private life shrouded"? Me no understand.

I thought EVERYONE in politics had to undergo a STRINGENT personal lifestyle check.

How did this happen? Heads will roll, I promise you!

[AZBlue]

61. And?...........

[Maine-ah]

62. Rice & Bean

or Beans and Rice...

doesn't that just make anyone else giggle?
:rofl:

[tammywammy]

63. So?? n/t

[Bluebear]

67. Care to elaborate any?

[tammywammy]

73. Well

I just don't get the big deal. So what she's got gay friends. Her best friend, who happens to be gay, happened to go through come hard financial times and Rice was able to help her out. I know that if I was in a situtation where I could help out I would in a heart beat (and she would do the same for me as well).

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

68. We're Supposed To Stay Out Of People's Bedrooms, No?

And that's regardless if this has any bearing in reality or not.

[Arugula Latte]

71. This administration is dedicated to NOT staying out of bedrooms...

That's why this is relevant.

[Generic Brad]

69. Boy, are we taking a leap with this story

If two people have a mutual friend who is gay, it does not make them gay. If two people are the same gender live together, it does not make them gay. If two people have mutual interests or shared financial accounts, it does not make them gay. The article lays out some facts, but it is we who are reading between the lines. Not everything is always as it appears on the surface though.

And even if it turned out that they are both gay - what business is it of ours? There is nothing wrong with being gay and I feel that implying someone is makes it almost sound as if we are accusing them of doing something wrong. How insulting. Also, everyone is entitled to a private life -- even public figures who rub us the wrong way.

For the second time in as many years I am finding myself defending Dr. Rice much to my surprise (Two years ago I ratted out a co-worker who was displaying a particularly offensive political caricature of her). She has done nothing immoral, wrong, or illegal. Whether she is straight or gay is no one's business but her own.

And for those who think she supports gay bashing by proxy by virtue of being in the Bush Administration, I challenge you to find one public statement she has made that could even remotely be considered anti-gay or pro-heterosexual.

I do not agree 100% with every view held by my boss but I still perform my job to the best of my ability. That could also be the case with Dr. Rice.

[mondo joe]

70. Nothing wrong with being gay. But there may be something very wrong with being part

of an anti-gay administration while gay.

Bush isn't just Rice's "boss". She's part of a policy making group.

As to Bush being anti-gay - do you actually need more than a constitutional amendment denying gays equal rights?

[Coexist]

74. Gee... I hope 'don't ask don't tell' doesn't bite her in the ass.

"SLDN is aware of cases where servicemembers have been investigated for owning a home with a person of the same gender," Steve shared. http://www.sldn.org/templates/index.html

[Mass]

75. So what? Is it impossible for you to co-own something with somebody without having

a sexual relationship (same sex or not).

So, Rice co-owns a house with another woman. This does not make gay or straight.

rawstory should be ashamed to even push the issue. This is about as stereotyping as the RW would do.

I am more interested by knowing why Rice did not go and testify in front of the SFRC instead of letting Crocker fry for her. Is she afraid?