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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 05:51 PM
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I stand with MoveOn!
Edited on Mon Sep-10-07 06:01 PM by Nutmegger
MoveOn.org has been receiving a lot of crap, from people on both sides, about their well done ad in the NYTimes today.

I stand with MoveOn.

Every thing that has been said today was a complete LIE. Violence has gone down? Surge objectives are being met? Iran this and that?

LIES!

It is sad that General Petraeus is channeling Bush Inc, and their usual talking points but it was to be expected. One thing is for certain: It is the "Betray us" report. By lying in front of the American people and being a good partisan Bush foot soldier, he has betrayed us.

I will now send some money to MoveOn. It's not much, but it's a token of my appreciation for always standing up for what we believe in and getting the word out!

Edit: Typo
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 05:53 PM
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1. I don't stand with John Kerry denouncing the moveon.org ad
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 06:23 PM
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7. He did what again?
I had low expectations from the man who is still silent on the 2004 theft. But this would be even lower. Please tell me I misunderstood your post!
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 06:28 PM
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12. Remember how he handled the Swift Boaters?
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 08:40 AM
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36. I was stunned enough to do a search. Indeed:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/09/10/petraeus.moveon /
GOP calls on top Senate Dem to condemn anti-Petraeus ad

and right after Joementum, comes Kerry:
Sen. John Kerry, D-Massachusetts, called the ad "over the top."

"I don't like any kind of characterizations in our politics that call into question any active duty, distinguished general who I think under any circumstances serves with the best interests of our country," said Kerry, the 2004 Democratic presidential candidate and a decorated veteran.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 08:23 PM
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32. THAT royally pissed me off!
Does he not remember Colin Powell at the UN? WTF is he thinking?

I guess we really shouldn't expect any more from a man who refused to stand and fight for his stolen election......AFTER he promised his supporters he would. :grr:
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 08:23 PM
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33. But, but Kerry supported the 'Take A Stand in September' vigils with MoveOn!!!
Edited on Mon Sep-10-07 08:25 PM by Breeze54
Hello Breeze,

I just wanted to drop you a quick note to remind you of two events:

First, tomorrow is the date for Americans Against Escalation in Iraq's Town Halls and MoveOn.org's End It in September Vigils.
Those organizations are working hard to make these events as large and important as humanly possible, so if you can attend an event in your area, please do. The Republicans in the Senate have stood in the way of getting a new direction in Iraq policy long enough. Show them that we won't stand for it anymore.

Click here to find the event in your area.

Second, today is the last day to vote in the Roadblock Republicans Radio Contest. We've had many thousands of votes, and the voting has been extremely close. Only a few hundred votes separate the top 4 candidates, so vote for the ad you think is the best. Voting closes tonight at midnight.

So go here to vote.

You'll receive an email after the votes have been tabulated to let you know which script will be aired in the Roadblock Republican states.

We're going to have a busy month in September. I'll keep you up to date as everything unfolds.

Thank you,
John Kerry


John Kerry For U.S. Senate
129 Portland Street, Suite 500, Boston, MA 02114-2014
info@johnkerry.com
www.johnkerry.com

Paid For By John Kerry For U.S. Senate


Give me a huge break!!
Seems to me he didn't actually READ the Ad in the NYT!!

"The Republicans in the Senate have stood in the way of getting a new direction
in Iraq policy long enough. Show them that we won't stand for it anymore."


Take A Stand, Senator Kerry!!!! :grr:


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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 05:56 PM
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2. The ad was pretty mild compared to what it could have been, and the complaints about it are lame.
Good job, MoveOn. You should answer the criticisms with an ad calling out each one of the critics.
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 05:57 PM
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3. Betrayus was all politics, keep the war machine rolling.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 05:58 PM
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4. No kidding! I do, too.
I called that ileana bush-fellatio's office and told her that I, as one of those MoveOn supporters, resented her patronizing, snippy little comment - "TAKE IT EASY!!!" to one of her colleagues who evidently took offense that, because he was a Democrat, perhaps he was "guilty" by association. Don't know who that was, but evidently he's sensitive about it, too. But I told the staffer for ileana's office that it is SHE who needs to "TAKE IT EASY!!!"

You better be careful when you sling those putdowns all over the place, ileana.
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 06:04 PM
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5. You know I am not so liberal - and I looked at what move-on did
And I think it was not only very smart but commendable.

Jesus - at least they said what they meant and didn't back down.

Nice job move-on. You can safely ignore the patronizing little bastards that say otherwise right now.

Joe
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 06:35 PM
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18. Hello Joe for Clark.
It's good to see you. :hug: :hi:
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 06:19 PM
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6. me too.
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 06:24 PM
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8. The detractors can only rely on pure Nazi tactics
http://pundits.thehill.com/2007/09/10/general-betray-us /

Anyone in a uniform cannot be questioned.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 06:25 PM
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9. Yep. They got their attention. Being polite doesn't work when people are being KILLED.
The pretentiously fastidious seem to need a wake-up call.
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 06:38 PM
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19. Yes!
I'm so tired of playing nice with these bastards. We have played nice, and nothing gets through. People are being killed daily; it's time to call them out for what they really are.

This is nowhere near what the Repukes have done in the past. It cannot even be compared.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 06:26 PM
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10. I do
After all it does not matter what moveon says or does, they will be piled upon
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 06:43 PM
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20. You'd think Democrats would understand this by now, wouldn't you?
No matter what we say, they will pile on full-throated with their
usual roars, accusing us of everything and anything that they
can think of.

One of these days, you'd think we'd get over worrying about
what "they" will say.

Tesha


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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 06:27 PM
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11. I agree 100% n/t
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 06:29 PM
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13. Thank you MoveOn for pointing out the state of the Emperor's clothing.
It was NECESSARY and PATRIOTIC to stand up against the overwhelming pre-show spin.
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 06:31 PM
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14. the whole controversy of the ad is stupid. I agree with it.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 06:33 PM
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15. I helped pay for that ad.
$50 well spent.
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 07:25 PM
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23. Thank you.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:37 PM
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41. I'll be giving them twice as much soon
They speak for me.
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SaveOurDemocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 06:33 PM
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16. Right On MoveOn!
I think it was a brilliant ad that may actually create some curiosity on the part of the sheeple ... or, at least give them something to remember when it comes out that this hearing today was as legitimate as Colon Powell's presentation to the UN.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 06:33 PM
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17. Military folks shouldn't attack political folks, and the same is true in reverse.
It is incredibly disturbing how politicized our nation's military has become. It's a very dangerous path, and we should look to Rome to see where it leads.
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 07:31 PM
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24. Maybe though the military needs some reminder that their oath
was to the constitution and NOT to a political philosophy.

You are right about how that kind of thing turned out for Rome.

It is dangerous.

Joe



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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 07:35 PM
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27. General Officers are as much "politicians" as they are "military folk" - in fact they send them
to special schools in order to train them how to "handle the media." :(
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 08:18 PM
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29. wake up- Petraeus IS political folk.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 06:46 PM
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21. Oddly they didn't condemn the Ari Fleisher ads that PROMOTE AN ILLEGAL WAR.
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stimbox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 06:50 PM
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22. Me too.
Edited on Mon Sep-10-07 06:51 PM by stimbox
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 07:33 PM
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25. One can stand with Moveon.org and still not like the ad
Perhaps they even agree with the jist of the ad, but still not like the ad.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 07:34 PM
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26. Yes, I'm proud of MoveOn.Org! nt
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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 07:36 PM
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28. I stand with Moveon.org also
who else are we going to stand with???? the DLC? Our elected representatives? Whoelse to stand with?
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 08:20 PM
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30. And I Stand With Move-On.
So there, fascists.

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mourningdove92 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 08:21 PM
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31. It was a good ad.
Its about time they got active again.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 08:28 PM
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34. Me Too !!! - K & R !!!
:patriot: :kick: :patriot:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 08:30 PM
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35. Geaux Code Pink!
:kick:
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zippy890 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 08:42 AM
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37. I do too. just donated $50 to Move On

:dem:
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whopis01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:30 PM
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39. I hope you enjoy your short-lived tenure here at DU. n/t
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:35 PM
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40. Count Me. In
I thought Eli said it very well on HardBall yesterday when he said that if they had done the same type of ad when Powell went to the UN they would have received the same type of criticism, yet if they had done such an ad, perhaps we wouldn't be in the no win position we are now.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:40 PM
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42. +1
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:41 PM
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43. wonderful idea, if they push us we push them right back.
Edited on Tue Sep-11-07 12:41 PM by alyce douglas
give a donation.
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