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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 06:48 PM
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So if the North American Union is for real,
all these Americans getting passports -- won't they have to be renewed; made worthless by the union?

Admittedly, I know nothing about this union. But if it's like the European Union, I see little reason to worry.
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BlackHawk706867 Donating Member (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 06:52 PM
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1. And this is precisely the problem at this time...
"Admittedly, I know nothing about this union. But if it's like the European Union, I see little reason to worry." No one knows what is going on behind the closed doors in the secret meetings... And knowing Bush, Harper, and Calderon... Why would anyone trust that they are there for the good of their respective peoples?

http://www.canadians.org/index.html

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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 06:53 PM
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2. The anti immigrant morans are gonna LOVE that
there may as well be no border controls in the EU. If this is to be modeled on it, what's gonna happen with all these big ass walls we want to build?
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 06:57 PM
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3. I should imagine the walls would be torn down.
Going to Canada would be a lot easier...

'2025 project'. I wonder what that is...

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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 08:56 PM
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7. Maybe this? - Backgrounder: The North American Future 2025 Project
New documents obtained by the Council of Canadians provide damning evidence of how
North American integration is being carried out by stealth. They describe a series of
closed-door meetings with government officials and business leaders from Canada,
Mexico and the United States to discuss everything from bulk water exports to a joint
security perimeter and a continental resource pact, all with the explicit aim of helping
executive-level politicians further integrate our three countries.

Under the title North American Future 2025 Project, the U.S. Center for Strategic and
International Studies (CSIS), in collaboration with the Conference Board of Canada and
Centro de Investigación y Docencia Económicas (CIDE), is currently holding a series of
“closed-door roundtable sessions” with government “practitioners” and private sector
“stakeholders” in order to “strengthen the capacity of Canadian, U.S., and Mexican
administration officials and that of their respective legislatures to analyze, comprehend,
and anticipate North American integration” (emphasis ours).

According to leaked documents obtained by the Council of Canadians:
- Bulk water exports are being discussed: A roundtable on the “Future of the
North American Environment,” planned for Friday April 27, 2007 in Calgary, will
discuss “water consumption, water transfers and artificial diversions of bulk
water” with the aim of achieving “joint optimum utilization of the available water.”
Since water was included as a “good,” a “service,” and an “investment” in
NAFTA, once Canada begins exporting fresh water to the U.S. for commercial
purposes, the tap can’t be turned off.

- The Canadian government is intimately involved: “To adhere to the desired
time line for this project,” the CSIS report will, “derive its assumptions from
existing projection scenarios relevant future-looking work dealing with each
of the six topics upon which the three governments have agreed—namely, labor
mobility, energy, the environment, competitiveness, and border infrastructure and
logistics” (emphasis ours). These are exactly the same policy areas currently
being integrated between Canada, Mexico and the U.S. through executive level,
closed-door meetings of the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North
America (SPP), agreed to by the leaders of all three countries in March 2005.

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:uUVGTxtwCI4J:www.canadians.org/water/documents/NA_Future_2025_backgrounder.pdf+2025+project&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a

Water, the next wars...
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 09:04 PM
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8. this is probably why bush and Rev Moon bought land in
Paraguay that just happens to be over a huge aquifer.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 09:10 PM
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9. Guaraní Aquifer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guaran%C3%AD_Aquifer

They know how bad the water situation is going to become; just looking ahead for new profits based on the suffering of others.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 09:12 PM
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10. Exactly.
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CGowen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 07:04 PM
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4. here is an article on the ID stuff
Edited on Mon Aug-20-07 07:10 PM by CGowen
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=16058




there is a book out on the union, it's now on the NY Times bestseller list

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57031
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 07:11 PM
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5. IDs are fine by me...
But with big-name commentators like Bill O'Reilly openly ranting against free movement, it not being a birthright, and so on, this NAU is going to give him quite the heart attack if it's for real... (and if he's for real too...)
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CGowen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 07:15 PM
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6. O'Reilly is not for real and many who have seen or remember his pre FOX journalism know it
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