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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 10:57 AM
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The Democratic Party Has A Choice To Make...
Edited on Sat Aug-18-07 10:59 AM by WillyT
This:



Or This:



Please choose wisely.

Your majority may depend on it.

:shrug:


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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 11:04 AM
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1. I believe they made their choice
Edited on Sat Aug-18-07 11:05 AM by leftchick
http://www.correntewire.com/bush_starts_to_run_out_the_clock_on_fisa_six_month_sunset_provision

Bush starts to run out the clock on FISA six month sunset provision
Submitted by lambert on Sat, 2007-08-18 09:52.


What a surprise. AP:

The White House on Friday asked a Senate panel for more time to produce subpoenaed information about the legal justification for President Bush’s secretive eavesdropping program.

Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy had set Monday as the deadline for administration officials already subpoenaed to provide documents and testimony about the National Security Agency’s eavesdropping program.

In Fielding’s letter to Leahy, which was released by the White House in Crawford, Texas, where Bush is staying at his ranch, the president’s lawyer said that while the White House had identified a core group of documents in response to the subpoenas, the work is “by no means complete” and could not be completed by Monday.

Naturally, Leahy will say “Give us what you’ve got,” right?

And now the kicker:

suggested further conversations with the panel, saying the White House did not want the issue to interfere with the administration’s desire to make more permanent the new powers Congress just gave NSA to monitor communications entering the United States involving foreigners who are the subjects of a national security investigation.

While Congress approved the measure, lawmakers specified that the new provisions would expire after six months, unless renewed.


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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 11:08 AM
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2. But Ya Know What Happens In Six Months ???
We have the holiday recess, followed by the caucuses and primaries.

We wouldn't wanna disrupt all that would we?

So, they'll extend it further.

:puke:
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 11:28 AM
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3. I keep wanting to believe this is part of a brilliant, long-range plan
Edited on Sat Aug-18-07 11:30 AM by tom_paine
but in reality, the overwhelming evidence is that the Dems are calculating about winning in 2008, getting veto-proof majorities (even if they have that, is it possible they could behave with anything even approaching the righteous indignation and outrage that the Republics worked up in 1998 over a Blow Job?) and then "doing something".

And while I do not agree with this strategy that, ultimately, involves giving a free pass to more heinous felons and felonies than perhaps have ever been performed by the Executive Branch of America since at least 1970 and perhaps long before...because reality is what it is, we must hope that it succeeds.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 11:29 AM
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4. I don't like ultimatims
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 11:33 AM
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5. Yes, but this is one ultimatum coming straight from History
And it doesn't care what you or I or any of the 301 million people in this country think.

Tyrants are swiftly unravelling our Constitution and taking us to the Dark Side of History. It will either be stopped, or Liberty in America will die (yes, there are the possibilities of other middle-ground outcomes).

Like it or not. It is what now is, with almost 90% certainty. How much more of their evil authoritarian mask do the Busheviks have to drop before what's behind starts to come into focus?
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 01:33 PM
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8. We're already there
We're living the dark side of history. Right now it may seem only shadows, but those shadows were there before. We've been living in the dark, pretending it was light.

The question is: Is the illusion we've been clinging to worth fighting for to make real? Is a true just and fair America what we want, or are we just in love with the illusion?
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 11:39 AM
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6. Here's An Untimatim...


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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 12:49 PM
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7. Dude!
:yourock:

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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 10:11 PM
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9. Late Nite Kick...
:shrug:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-19-07 11:04 AM
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10. Last Kick From Me
:kick:
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