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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 05:45 PM
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UFO Over O’Hare Airport: New Report
http://www.livescience.com/blogs/2007/08/06/ufo-over-ohare-airport-new-report/
UFO Over O’Hare Airport: New Report
Author Leonard David

The National Aviation Reporting Center on Anomalous Phenomena (NARCAP), based in Vallejo, California, has investigated that November 7 incident allegedly involving an unidentified aerial object that violated controlled airspace at Chicago’s O’Hare International Airport.

As viewed by airline and airport employees at O’Hare, the object was round and revolving, gray in color and metallic. It hovered at an altitude less than 1,900 feet above ground level.

“The identity of the UAP remains unknown,” notes the over 100 page NARCAP report.

The group has called for an official government inquiry into the matter, noting that their analysis suggests that a “significant air safety problem existed at O’Hare International Airport” given the UAP incident. The NARCAP assessment of the sighting states further inquiry should be carried out “to evaluate whether or not current sensing technologies are adequate to insure against a future incident such as this.”

The report in its entirety can be viewed at www.NARCAP.org

Meanwhile, the Chicago airport sighting — and a host of other UFO-related insights — are to take center stage at the Mutual UFO Network’s (MUFON) 38th International UFO Symposium, to be held August 10-12 in Denver, Colorado.

Drop by the event in the travel convenience of choice, be it car, airplane, or UFO - but first teleport yourself via Internet to the MUFON site at: http://mufon.com/symposia.htm
http://www.livescience.com/blogs/2007/08/06/ufo-over-ohare-airport-new-report/




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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 05:53 PM
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1. Scientists did hear some chatter on the Hi-Band Radio...
"Gack su usa??"
"Lok gju dqio Monkey?"
"Rewfv uyi losgre President?"
"Dumb as Box of Haxlles"
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 05:43 AM
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47. I hear it all the time on the baby monitor
:evilgrin:
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Sapere aude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 05:53 PM
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2. Is there a place on earth that contains physical evidence of visitors from another planet?
I have a really hard time believing that UFOs are visitors from other planets because there is no verifiable physical evidence of it.

Why isn't there a museum some where I can go and see the evidence of extra terrestrials? I don't mean the stuff they talk about on "Coast to Coast" but real touchable evidence.

It must be that no UFOs ever left evidence or I don't know about it.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 06:07 PM
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6. Check the Oval Office!
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 06:10 PM
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8. My brother was born in Roswell in 1948 and he doesn't look anything like
the rest of the family!

(True)

:D
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 08:22 PM
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29. Do a DNA test, maybe he was switched at birth with another baby..
just sayin'....

:hi: Karl
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 09:11 PM
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34. At this point, I don't think any of us really care either way.
:D
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 06:14 PM
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12. Reminds me of a show I was watched on meteors -scientists did not believe they were form space
Rocks did not fall from the sky - unless ejected up by a volcano, etc.

No matter what people told them it took a long time for people to conclude that villagers and city folk weren't crazy.

And then up until last century it was not felt the crater in AZ was caused by a meteorite. Took one guy years of research to prove it was.

Belief comes first - then an analysis and looking outside the box. There may be no evident proof, but with hundreds of years of people seeing things, and now video taping them, I say we should keep an open mind and look into it more deeply.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 10:17 PM
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39. And it wasn't that long ago that 'learned men of science' skoffed at invisible bugs
with the power to make human beings ill. How many people died from doctors who didn't see the point in washing their damned hands?

Scientists who insist something doesn't exist because they haven't personally seen it or they lack the technology to quantify it are cultists. ;)
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 06:30 PM
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15. The evidence is all around you. Touch a tree, touch an animal, touch another human..
This world was started by visitors from another planet. It's my belief that they came from a planet that was either overpopulated or dying, and they were searching for somewhere suitable to sustain life. Much like OUR space exploration today with our space shuttles.

Ask yourself why there were millions (thousands?) of ants on the shuttle that exploded a couple years ago. Because they start out by taking plant & insect life up there to see how they grow, change and adapt to their surroundings. How long before they take the leap to taking a fetus, or a clone, and dropping them off, then going back regularly to see how they have grown, changed and adapted to their environment?? (Evolution?)

That seems to be the same as how we got here. That also explains the visits from the so called 'angels', who had to get here somehow. Do you really think they flew here with wings on their backs??

These other beings were exploring the earth's atmosphere and environment, placing test humans in different parts of the planet to see how widespread suitability was for survival.

Or do you buy the theory that some magical old dude that lives in the clouds made all this in 7 days?

PEACE!

Ghost
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 06:45 PM
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17. Hey! Stop touching me.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 07:05 PM
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21. I think of the visitors as comets or giant sperm cells fertilizing the barren egg; Earth,
with life giving compounds during the early stages of the formative universe after the Big Bang, no pun intended. I believe everything is just floating around in an expanding universal uterus of sorts just as any pregnant mother's would be. Dark matter is the universal placenta holding everything together and the black holes are either worst case scenario, digestive tracts or best case, birth canals.
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speakclearly Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 09:04 AM
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48. The "truth is "out there"....N/T
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Gruenemann Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 11:24 AM
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52. So...where did THAT life come from?
It had to originate somewhere--why not here?
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 02:47 PM
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54. It very well *could* have originated here..
Imagine us, right now as we are in this world. All the strife, all the chaos, all the threat of nuclear annihilation..

Now think about the underground bunkers the government has that's supposed to keep them alive in case of nuclear attack. Remember those? The whole 'continuation of government' thing? Now think about our space shuttle and space station. What would stop a group of scientists, or whomever from blasting off because a nuclear attack was imminent, just so they could be somewhere to survive, and start civilization again when it is safe to do so? We don't *really* know what they're doing up there now. We only know what they tell us... what they WANT us to know. They could have a whole lad full of frozen embryos just waiting to be unthawed to populate the New World.

What people need to really think about also is that OUR Space Shuttle is a perfect example of what a UFO could be. It is capable of repeated INTERPLANETARY FLIGHT. Imagine that! What makes it seem impossible to think that another civilization could exist somewhere in this vast universe that has these capabilities also??
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 10:06 PM
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37. On a serious answer the closest we have come
is the 1897 incident at Aurora texas

And on an even more serious note, it is highly unlikely that we are the only sentient species in the universe

Now travelling across the stars poses very serious technical problems... but even we will solve the small problem of FTL travel... hey at one point the sound barrier was thought impossible to break too
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 02:36 AM
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46. "Now traveling across the stars poses very serious technical problems..."
While I agree with your point, I've heard this explanation being made many times before. But what occurs to me every time I do, is this: "its only a technical problem for us, but maybe its not such a big problem for them."

When I hear this, to me it seems like more of an indication of the degree of limitation in our thinking. An unwillingness to "think outside the box" on this issue. Which is probably why when anyone declares that they've seen a UFO, they're usually ridiculed and sent to a psychiatrist for evaluation. And when groups of people say they've seen a UFO -- then its mass hysteria. Or the tried and true explanation is dragged out: the ubiquitous weather balloon. And there's probably also no small amount of arrogance involved here too. Particularly among scientists and eggheads who lack a plausible answer. Which is somewhat understandable because since they don't know how its done, and since they haven't been able to figure out how they do it, then its probably or definitely not possible. Right. :sarcasm:

However, for thousands of centuries our primary means of transport were beasts of burden. Think of how many Roman soldiers one could knock off with just a Hummer if you could take one back to 310 AD. You could've been Emperor. Yet in the space of less than the past 50 years, we've been to the moon (or a reasonable facsimile of it if you're a conspiracy buff). But how many people 50 or 100 years ago would have believed it possible to go to the moon? Given the history of incredulity, will our progeny laugh and snicker at us and our old-fashioned rigid thinking 50 or 100 years hence as they teleport to work each day?

Now you might say: "well, Mr. Smarty-Pants, how do they do it?

Ahhh... I have a theory. One possibility that I've considered in all this, and is rarely if ever mentioned when long-distance space travel is being considered, is inter-dimensional travel. Just as for thousands of centuries we thought the horse was the ticket, we realize now that there are other ways to move about. Like flying through the air or under the sea. So why is it that we continue think that to get from point A to point B that it can only be in a straight line? Because that's the only way we know how to travel?

Even Einstein theorized that there were 46 dimensions. Personally I figure Einstein's wrong (yeah, I know -- arrogant ain't I?), because if he calculated 46 dimensions, then each dimension could also have the same number. And each one of those could have 46, and on and on!

But my point is, inter-dimensional travel would account for a number of things that have been observed in UFO sightings such as the inexplicable movements that defy our concepts of movement, trajectory and acceleration. As well as how these things seem to just appear and disappear into thin air. It would be interesting if someone had the presence of mind when one of these things shows up, to take EM band readings. And maybe mass spectrometer readings and readings of non-visible light. I wonder what they'd tell us?

Anyway, its just an idea of mine. Obviously I have way too much time on my hands....

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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 09:18 AM
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50. a question
What do you mean by the "EM band"? How do you take an EM band reading?

(Sorry, I guess that was two questions.)
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 02:44 PM
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53. I'm referring to the bands....
...on the electromagnetic spectrum. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_spectrum">All objects emit light/radiation and the electromagnetic (EM) spectrum is a means of measuring the range of those emissions. The range of the EM wavelength can be kilometers in length or as small as an atom, from visible light like from the sun, to radiation from the electrical wires outside your front door on the telephone pole, to gamma rays. Or even our own EM band, cause our bodies give off EM waves too.

Since light is quite often one of the most prominent things often described by observers whenever these sightings are made, what is being described is only the visible part of the light spectrum seen by the naked eye. But knowing the EM wavelength of an object may also help tell us if its really there (fully within our dimension), or some kind of projection we're not familiar with. And if so, what its composition might be. Mass spectrometers do somewhat similarly with visible light waves and those just outside the visible range, and can discern what the elements or atomic makeup is of stars and the other flotsam and jetsam hanging out in space. Even those that are millions of light years away. Which is what the Hubble Telescope has been so very good at collecting. Like this:



Of course getting any readings might be real tough in some cases seeing how they are often reported to move around very fast and then disappear just as quickly as they came into view. But there are sometimes that they are said to hover and remain motionless and this might afford an opportunity to "scan" the object to see what its made of and whatever it is made of, where it lies on the range of the EM band. Assuming its within the range of things we sort of understand. It might not be.

As I said earlier I've got way too much time on my hands sometimes. But a dual interest in my younger days with metaphysics and with astrophysical science must have merge at some point in my head to come up with this idea. It's possible that this has already been tried by the "authorities" since there doesn't seem to be a snowball's chance in hell we could ever catch one at the speeds they seem to travel.

:)
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 09:15 AM
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49. a flawed analogy
Moving faster than the speed of sound was from the beginning simply a technological challenge. Lots of things in the universe move faster than their local sound speed, so for us it was just a question of "How do we get planes to do the same thing?"

On the other hand, the theory of relativity, which has been observationally confirmed in a lot of ways, gives good reasons why absolutely nothing in the universe can move faster than about 300,000 km/s. Breaking this speed limit is more than a technological challenge; it requires getting around a basic tenet of physics.
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Sapere aude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 10:52 AM
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51. I don't think we are the only beings in the universe. I want to know what physical
evidence do we have that proves other beings from other planets have visited earth. Until there is real physical evidence not hypotheses I don't think I can believe that the UFOs are visitors from an other world.
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 05:54 PM
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3. Swamp gas.
;-)
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 06:01 PM
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4. Oh, that nutty John Travolta and his flying machines! nt
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 06:06 PM
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5. Sounds like they created a spotting so they'd have something
to talk about at their conference.

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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 06:08 PM
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7. OK. See ya'll in the dungeon...
shortly.

:)
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 06:11 PM
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9. There's an LGM dungeon? Who knew?
:rofl:
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 06:11 PM
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10. Just be thankful the Dungeon isn't charging us rent!
:hi:
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 06:11 PM
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11. UFO
:hi:
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eagler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 06:21 PM
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13. Proof !
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 06:23 PM
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14. Take Me To your
nuclear wessles.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 06:32 PM
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 06:46 PM
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18. Actually, "New Report" is a bit misleading. The incident in question is from Nov. '06. n/t
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 06:52 PM
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20. They're having a conference this weekend. That's when the new report will be issued.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 07:08 PM
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22. Yes, well that's apparent after getting to the PDF. But you can understand the confusion with
the subject line as written. Having heard about the Nov. sighting, my first thought was that there was a second incident.

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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 07:12 PM
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24. No! Still talking about the first one.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 07:57 PM
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27. Yes, I get that. As I said, after getting to the PDF is was apparent it was the Nov. sighting, not
a new one. I was just pointing out that the title is confusing.

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Sinistrous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 06:51 PM
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19. That was not a UFO.
It was just a plane landing on schedule. Nobody had seen that at O'Hare in years.

Sinistrous
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Harry Monroe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 07:12 PM
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23. Why is it that every time someone is abducted by an alien...
...they claim the alien rectally probed them?? You think they'd travel light years across the galaxy to anally probe humans?? :wtf: :shrug:

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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 07:50 PM
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25. Maybe Humans just happen to have the best ones in the galaxy /nt
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flying rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 09:43 PM
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35. We certainly have some of the biggest ones
and they run the show.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 07:52 PM
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26. hehe...


Sid
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Harry Monroe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 08:58 PM
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31. Well, I do have a theory about this
Bush was anally probed in his younger days and from that probing, they assume that every human brain is in the same place.
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MsRedacted Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 08:09 PM
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28. We don't have enough to worry about -- people are seriously spending time on UFOs.
What a waste of time and resources.

Really folks, if "aliens" are observing us -- who cares.

Can we spend our time on fixing things that we KNOW are actually happening and can DO something about.

Sorry but the obsession some people have about "whether we are alone" seems so frivolous in the face of things like global warming, genocide, war and famine.

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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 08:43 PM
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30. The obsession some people have about religion, in general, and God
seems frivolous to some of us too. What makes that fairy tale any more significant than believing in more advanced life forms in the universe?

Wouldn't God, in fact, be an extra-terrestrial being, seeing as how he wasn't 'of this world'? His minions had to travel here somehow, didn't they? Or did the just cross their arms, nod their head, and blink their eyes and they appeared here?
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 08:59 PM
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32. Here is My Video on it
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Harry Monroe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 09:01 PM
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33. You think extraterrestials are going to bother observing and examining us??
Edited on Wed Aug-08-07 09:02 PM by NotGonnaTakeIt
There's no intelligent life down here. If this were true, I'd be very frightened as any intelligent life out there would come to the conclusion that we are primitive, violent and dangerous and would probably determine that we must be destroyed before we spread out beyond the solar system.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 10:07 PM
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38. Believe it or not I think the UFO's are actually very spiritual
Maybe the see the futility of killing and war
and therefore are watching our conflict shaking their heads
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 11:08 PM
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40. Extraterrestrials might not, but human historians... definitely.
If there were an infinity of universes, some nearly identical except for their initial time of creation, and one could somehow travel between those universes, then human historians and anthropologists from one universe would certainly wish to observe humans from another less advanced time.

If that were the case, the traditional arguments against causality and the speed of light and vast distances and all that other stuff don't really apply. It would also explain why the "aliens" are always anthropomorphic, even though probability suggests that they should be anything but bipedal primate-like critters.

It might also explain the, um, anal probing.

Stephen Hawking has offered a Fermi-paradox type of argument against such a thing: if it were possible, why aren't we inundated with time-traveling (or universe-hopping) tourists? But if the "humans" who have invented universe hopping come from a couple hundred thousand years in the future, maybe they just don't give a damn.

They might be interested in finding out when the post-Cro-mags first started to fly (Aurora, 1897) or when the first atomic bomb was detonated (the "foo fighters," World War II), or how we managed to not blow ourselves to hell with them afterwards (the UFO craze of the Cold War), or first ventured into space (Gordon Cooper), or why they elected a barely sentient chimpanzee President.

They wouldn't want to disturb things too much because interference would cause deviation from their own timeline.

But, truth be told, I'm chuckling as I try to make this argument. I can't really buy it myself. Still, humans from the future looking in on their knuckle dragging progenitors--and boning them in the rear--makes much more sense than aliens from outer space. It's fun to think about.

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Jeroen Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 02:32 AM
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45. Intelligent life
There is intelligent life out there and we are being visited.
See: http://www.disclosureproject.org/

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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 10:03 PM
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36. Marking for the morning n/t
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 12:21 AM
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41. Actually this is very serious a flying object passed through
our defenses and hovered over our airport

if anybody reads the evidence of a very scientific study

there is 100 eye witnesses
Daily Log Accounts
FAA recorder sound tapes of witnesses reporting the object

in the day and age of 911 when three airplanes hit the WTC and killed thousands

the security issue is a serious one

and yet when initially asked the FAA to do a study said Not Interested
the same FAA who destroyed the 911 tapes and the same FAA who was quite inept on 911

that allowed the Pentagon to be attacked

No My friendly DUERS this is NO Joking Matter

http://youtube.com/watch?v=VAZ9UxNWYIw
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 12:26 AM
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42. It was this guy
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 12:40 AM
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43. He's pretty cute
love it
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 02:03 AM
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44. Thanks for the update, Joanne. At this point I have more faith in ET
Edited on Thu Aug-09-07 02:03 AM by Vidar
than the democrats.
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