FISA Roll Call

[Truth2Tell]

Have at em:

http://clerk.house.gov/cgi-bin/vote.asp?year=2007&rollnumber=836

[IChing]

1. thanks, I will check the blue dog list against them.

[bluestateguy]

2. Looks like a lot of freshman, DLCers and white southern Democrats

And the thing is, white conservatives back in their districts will vote against them anyway.

[nradisic]

6. They don't belong in the Democratic Party...

Dems need to work on taking away every single seat from Republicans in blue states. We cab forget about these "Dems" from red states. When their balls are up against the wall, they are totally useless. Why have them to begin with?

[OzarkDem]

16. Looks like Dem leaders gave them the ok

Our illustrious leaders must have thought their seats were vulnerable. D'oh.

[Lifelong Protester]

3. Appreciate the link

glad to see my Congressman (Kind, WI) is not one of the Dems voting for this. Neither were my two Senators, thank God. But then, Feingold has been on this issue ever since he voted as the sole NO to the Patriot Act (I have a hard time even typing the name of that piece of legislation... I don't even want to call it legislation... more like treasonous crap we are all supposed to believe is going to keep us safe... I can't say safe... ok, I'll shut up now, the whole thing has got my stomach and brain, what there is of it, in knots.

[Bumblebee]

10. None of mine voted for it either but that's not the point: they were ALL

enablers. They could have stopped it -- by insisting on supermajority, like the GOP did yesterday with their bill, or by letting it die. They betrayed us COLLECTIVELY, regardless of how they voted on it individually. Our party just caved in and behaved in the most cowardly fashion and therefore betrayed everyone who worked so hard to elect them.

[Tatiana]

21. EXACTLY! Where are the Tip O' Neils?

Who is going to do whatever it takes to stand up for the people?

[Bumblebee]

4. So Harman did end up voting "No"...

[rodeodance]

9. Her floor speech did not indicate a NAY!!

[Bumblebee]

13. I know; that's a bit of a surprise.

[Tatiana]

18. Her floor speech was very ambiguous. I was unsure of how she would vote.

I thought it sounded like a "nay" (as did you, IIRC).

[IChing]

5. blue dog list here

Mike Arcuri (New York)
Joe Baca (California)
John Barrow (Georgia)
Melissa Bean (Illinois)
Marion Berry (Arkansas)
Sanford Bishop (Georgia)
Dan Boren (Oklahoma)
Leonard Boswell (Iowa)
Allen Boyd (Florida), Blue Dog Co-Chair for Administration
Dennis Cardoza (California)
Christopher Carney (Pennsylvania)
Ben Chandler (Kentucky)
Jim Cooper (Tennessee)
Jim Costa (California)
Bud Cramer (Alabama)
Lincoln Davis (Tennessee)
Joe Donnelly (Indiana)
Brad Ellsworth (Indiana)
Gabrielle Giffords (Arizona)
Kirsten Gillibrand (New York)
Bart Gordon (Tennessee)
Jane Harman (California)
Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (South Dakota), Blue Dog Whip
Baron Hill (Indiana)
Tim Holden (Pennsylvania)
Steve Israel (New York)
Nick Lampson (Texas)
Tim Mahoney (Florida)
Jim Marshall (Georgia)
Jim Matheson (Utah)
Mike McIntyre (North Carolina)
Charlie Melancon (Louisiana)
Mike Michaud (Maine)
Dennis Moore (Kansas), Blue Dog Co-Chair for Policy
Patrick Murphy (Pennsylvania)
Collin Peterson (Minnesota)
Earl Pomeroy (North Dakota)
Mike Ross (Arkansas), Blue Dog Co-Chair for Communications
John Salazar (Colorado)
Loretta Sanchez (California)
Adam Schiff (California)
David Scott (Georgia)
Heath Shuler (North Carolina)
Zack Space (Ohio)
John Tanner (Tennessee)
Gene Taylor (Mississippi)
Mike Thompson (California)
Charlie Wilson (Ohio)

[L. Coyote]

19. More like a list of RED state Dems.

[rodeodance]

7. Kucinich made it back from daily kos and voted. Good for him

[Buzz Clik]

8. Republicans crossing over (all two of them)

Johnson (IL)
Jones (OH)

[rodeodance]

17. Paul did not vote (on the campaign trail??),

[scarletwoman]

11. Thank you VERY much! Much to my relief, my own congressman voted 'no'.

While my Dem Senator (my state has one of each) voted 'yes' yesterday!

sw

[Individualist]

12. Names which will live in infamy

[rodeodance]

14. thanks and a big REC

[Snazzy]

15. the 41

Altmire
Barrow
Bean
Boren
Boswell
Boyd (FL)
Carney
Chandler
Cooper
Costa
Cramer
Cuellar
Davis (AL)
Davis, Lincoln
Donnelly
Edwards
Ellsworth
Etheridge
Gordon
Herseth Sandlin
Higgins
Hill
Lampson
Lipinski
Marshall
Matheson
McIntyre
Melancon
Mitchell
Peterson (MN)
Pomeroy
Rodriguez
Ross
Salazar
Shuler
Snyder
Space
Tanner
Taylor
Walz (MN)
Wilson (OH)

[Lifelong Protester]

20. OMG

Walz of MN???? :wtf:

[FredStembottom]

31. I'm trying to get my head around that one, too!

I'll be looking for his explanation!

[Snazzy]

32. states

Altmire	 PA
Barrow	 GA
Bean	 IL
Boren	 OK
Boswell	 IA
Boyd 	 FL
Carney	 PA
Chandler KY
Cooper	 TN
Costa	 CA
Cramer	 AL
Cuellar	 TX
Davis	 AL
Davis, Lincoln	TN
Donnelly IN
Edwards	 TX
EllsworthIN
EtheridgeNC
Gordon   TN
Herseth Sandlin	SD
Higgins	 NY
Hill	 IN
Lampson	 TX
Lipinski IL
Marshall GA
Matheson UT
McIntyre NC
Melancon LA
Mitchell AZ
Peterson MN
Pomeroy	 ND
RodriguezTX
Ross     AR
Salazar	 CO
Shuler	 NC
Snyder	 AR
Space	 OH
Tanner	 TN
Taylor	 MS
Walz	 MN
Wilson 	 OH

[Bumblebee]

22. Emanuel in the NYT:

Senior House Democratic leaders said they were resigned to the administration bill, which would be in force for six months. But they said they would not wait that long before trying to come up with a more acceptable, permanent change in the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

“There is no way we are ever going to wait six months,” said Representative Rahm Emanuel of Illinois, chairman of the House Democratic Caucus.


SO HOW ABOUT ON MONDAY AND CALL THE SENATE BACK TOO? Maybe that should be our demand -- or else not a red cent or a even a quick minute spent on the campaigns!

[in_cog_ni_to]

23. LIST OF BLUE DOG DEMOCRATS...how many of these are on that list of 41? 30 of them!!!!

DOGS! Tell me again just exactly HOW are they GOOD for the DEMOCRATIC PARTY?????


List of Blue Dog Coalition members

* Mike Arcuri (New York)
* Joe Baca (California)
* John Barrow (Georgia)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Melissa Bean (Illinois)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< she's one on the list
* Marion Berry (Arkansas)
* Sanford Bishop (Georgia)
* Dan Boren (Oklahoma)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Leonard Boswell (Iowa)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Allen Boyd (Florida), Blue Dog Co-Chair for Administration <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Dennis Cardoza (California)
* Christopher Carney (Pennsylvania)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Ben Chandler (Kentucky)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Jim Cooper (Tennessee) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Jim Costa (California) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Bud Cramer (Alabama) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Lincoln Davis (Tennessee) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Joe Donnelly (Indiana) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Brad Ellsworth (Indiana) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Gabrielle Giffords (Arizona)
* Kirsten Gillibrand (New York)
* Bart Gordon (Tennessee)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Jane Harman (California)
* Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (South Dakota), Blue Dog Whip <<<<<<<<<< she's on the list
* Baron Hill (Indiana)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Tim Holden (Pennsylvania)
* Steve Israel (New York)
* Nick Lampson (Texas)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Tim Mahoney (Florida)
* Jim Marshall (Georgia)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Jim Matheson (Utah)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Mike McIntyre (North Carolina)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Charlie Melancon (Louisiana)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Mike Michaud (Maine)
* Dennis Moore (Kansas), Blue Dog Co-Chair for Policy
* Patrick Murphy (Pennsylvania)
* Collin Peterson (Minnesota)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Earl Pomeroy (North Dakota)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Mike Ross (Arkansas), Blue Dog Co-Chair for Communications<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* John Salazar (Colorado)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Loretta Sanchez (California)
* Adam Schiff (California)
* David Scott (Georgia)
* Heath Shuler (North Carolina)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Zack Space (Ohio)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* John Tanner (Tennessee)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Gene Taylor (Mississippi)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list
* Mike Thompson (California)
* Charlie Wilson (Ohio)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< he's on the list

Former members of Congress who were once prominent Blue Dog Coalition members include:

* Brad Carson (Oklahoma)
* Gary Condit (California)
* Harold Ford Jr. (Tennessee)
* Ralph Hall (Texas) (became a Republican and is still a member of the House)
* Bill Lipinski (Illinois)
* David Minge (Minnesota)
* Max Sandlin (Texas)
* Charlie Stenholm (Texas)
* Billy Tauzin (Louisiana) (later became a Republican and served until 2005)
* Jim Turner (Texas)



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Dog_Democrats

[Bumblebee]

24. Daniel Lipinski, who is probably Bill's son, voted for it.

[in_cog_ni_to]

27. Thank you, but he's not a Blue Dog coalition member. At least he isn't on the list.

:hi:

[Bumblebee]

29. Didn't make much difference, did it? :)

[IChing]

25. When I was watching cspan it was 43 for

some people are saying 41 now.
What is your count?

[Bumblebee]

26. This says 41 -- 2 must have changed their votes:

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll836.xml

[derby378]

28. OK, now I'm discouraged

What's the point in having a Democratic Congress if it keeps passing Republican legislation?!?

[FogerRox]

30. Something very wrong with that picture

[otohara]

33. Salazar Brothers

stick together. Both members of right wingy clubs, Gang of 14 for Ken and Blue Doggy Democrats for John.