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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 10:47 AM
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CNN reporter finally speaks the truth on air this morning!
In a story covering the Minneapolis bridge failure, a reporter (didn't catch his name), stated that much of America's critical infrastructure had been allowed to deteriorate. He then mentioned the underground pipes in Manhattan that exploded and spewed asbestos all over the place, and the power grid failure a few years ago, and a few other catastrophes.

He then said that it would take billions of dollars to bring these things up to standard, and that many of the bridges you and I would be driving on today had the same ratings as the one that collapsed in Minneapolis.

He then stated he wasn't a Democrat or a Republican, but that the bottom line was: there's no money to fix these things. And then he said "when you're spending billions and billions over in Iraq, there's nothing left for America, so we've now given up our own public safety for a war in another country."

:patriot:

It will be interesting to see if he keeps his job after this. After all, speaking the truth is not something we normally see or hear on the corporate owned, self-serving media in this country.
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ceile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 10:49 AM
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1. Wow.
He didn't pull any punches. Good for him, but he may be filing for unemployment tomorrow.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 01:21 PM
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36. I hope so many people heard
this hard truth coming from this reporter's mouth!
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 10:53 AM
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2. We saw some of them telling the truth during the Katrina disaster...
Did they keep their jobs? Just asking, from abroad... without any teevee (by choice).

Kudos to this brave reporter. :thumbsup:
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 11:48 AM
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26. Anderson Cooper did--and became a star for it.
Edited on Thu Aug-02-07 12:13 PM by tblue37
But his reporting is erratic, and it is mostly about him and how he feels rather than real reporting, so mainly he just became another pretty face to draw ratings on TV rather than a force for holding The Powers That Be responsible for their bad actions.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 12:01 PM
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29. Thanks for the information and observation.
Hope History Won't Repeat Itself with this morning's reporter.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 03:10 PM
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41. His mother is Gloria Vanderbilt ~! think that helps
Edited on Thu Aug-02-07 03:11 PM by goclark
I like him more than most of them however.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 01:39 PM
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37. Solodad spoke the truth about Katrina
and she went bye bye.

Just on for a few segments now.

Sad, she was one of the few reporters of color.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 02:35 PM
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39. Thank you for bringing this information up.
I, like many here, have wilfully thrown everything "TV" out of our lives for good, but we still wish that media will be used to truly help solve the myriad of problems brought by blind-corporati$m instead of for enabling them further down. If that ever happens (in our dreams, it seems...), I may tune-in again for once in a while or more (depending on the quality).

Kudos to the good reporter (Solodad) again. :thumbsup:
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 10:34 PM
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52. But can't live with out Colbert & Stewart 08
Edited on Thu Aug-02-07 10:36 PM by sce56

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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 05:03 AM
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69. She was tossed shortly after her heated exchange w/ Tony Snow:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zBld8hDadz0

It was roughly two weeks after this that she was yanked off the air. I could never understand why so many here on DU thought she was a shill - on the contrary, she was always fair.:shrug:
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 08:34 AM
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85. Beautiful too!!
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 05:47 PM
Response to Reply #69
100. I agee ~ at 1st I thought so too but she was about the
only sane voice at CNN.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 10:54 AM
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3. That took courage (i know stating facts & objective truths is just their job, but still) Hat's off !
Who was that unnamed reporter?
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 09:55 AM
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93. wonder if he will ever be seen or heard from again??
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PearliePoo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 10:54 AM
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4. did anyone catch the name of this guy?
amazing...he is editorializing. Offering his own analysis.
He will be toast, no doubt.
I know that I am calling my senators TODAY to also state the obvious.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 10:54 AM
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5. Wow is right. I posted this exact idea last night when I said
economists would refer to the $1.6 trillion estimate to fix our deteriorating infrastructure as the opportunity cost of the Iraq war.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 10:57 AM
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7. He mentioned that as well. I heard him say TRILLION.
I was getting ready for work, so I didn't catch his name. I think he many have been a local guy appearing on CNN, as I don't think it was a regular CNNer.

Of course, I would expect the local people to be more honest, since that area seems to be more progressive.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 11:09 AM
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14. If you find his name, let us know!
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Duppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 02:10 AM
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67. in 2003 Engineers said it would cost $1.6 TRILLION
ENGINEERS: U.S. INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS ESTIMATED AT $1.6 TRILLON
From a 2003 article:

>>
The condition of the nation's roads, bridges, drinking water systems and other public works have shown little improvement since they were graded an overall D+ in 2001, with some areas sliding toward failing grades, concluded the 2003 Progress Report for America's Infrastructure, released by the American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE).

The report examining trends and assessing the progress and decline of America's infrastructure - roads, bridges, mass transit, aviation, schools, drinking water, wastewater, dams, solid waste, hazardous waste, navigable waterways and energy - was prepared by a panel of 20 eminent civil engineers with expertise in a range of practice specialties. In 2001, ASCE engineers released the Report Card for America's Infrastructure, grading the same 12 infrastructure categories at a discouraging D+ overall and estimating the need for a $1.3 trillion investment to bring conditions to acceptable levels.

more here: http://www.buildingonline.org/news/viewnews.pl?id=2533&...

------------------

From the "Report Card for America's Infrastructure" site:

Long commutes.
Dirty Water.
Delayed flights.
Failing Dams.

With each passing day, aging and overburdened infrastructure threatens the economy and quality of life in every state, city and town in the nation.

Read about the infrastructure issues in your region and how you can help raise the grade on America's failing infrastructure.

http://www.asce.org/reportcard/2005/index.cfm
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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 05:07 AM
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70. Remember Sen. Tom Harkins (D Iowa) bid for the Presidential
Nomination? He was all about rebuilding Americas infrastructure. Anyone remember the year?
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 07:14 AM
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79. That was a major part of Graham's (D-FL) message in 2004 as well.
And he was never taken seriously and eliminated fairly early in the primaries. I loved his ideas for how to improve our infrastructure.
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 09:09 AM
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91. Ironically
He ran against Bill Clinton in the primaries in 1992

It was a big field that included Jerry Brown, Paul Tsongas, Tom Harkin, Bob Kerrey (Nebraska) and several others.

Tom Harkin and Paul Wellstone were great friends and kindred spirits!
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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 06:58 PM
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101. Now I remember I was disappointed when Sen. Harkin
quit/lost. I think history is on my side.

How different things would be if Harkin had won. Sen. Wellstone might have played a role in the administration and maybe might not have taken that fatal flight.

Where's an alternate universe when you need one?
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 06:18 AM
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76. But (gasp) we might have to roll back the Bush tax cuts to pay for it!
Say it ain't so.

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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 08:40 AM
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86. $1.6 trillion to repair the infrastructure vs. $3 trillion and counting in Iraq.
If only we had given Halliburton all the contracts to rebuild our infrastructure. True, the repairs would have been deficient.
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ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 09:08 AM
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90. That's $2 trillion in 2007 dollars.
And we've just reached our debt limit at $9 trillion. Let's have Hillary Clinton explain why voting for the Iraq War was a sound investment.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 10:51 AM
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98. Think what that money invested in the United States would do for
us all. On the other hand, the money spent on our immoral and illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq would have better been flushed down a toilet. At least then it wouldn't have been used to kill over 700,000 innocent men, women and children.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 10:56 AM
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6. LBN thread-34% substandard or mediocre
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 10:57 AM
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8. Not to mention selling off parts of our infrastructure under the guise of
saving money. In the long run, it costs much more with the way they've been "managing" things.
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 11:58 AM
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28. Exactly, they were discussing the privatization opportunities on CNBC
Licking their chops over another chance to screw us. Remember when they privatized the utilities, but then we had to pony up for the electrical grid because these fine companies had apparently been maximizing their profits and planning on passing along the costs to us.

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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 10:58 AM
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9. I hate to give someone credit for simply telling the truth but there it is
and good on him for it.
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 11:01 AM
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10. Anyway to get his name - we all need to e-mail CNN our approval.
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 11:36 AM
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22. good point
He's going to need some support. I didn't see it but I hope somebody who did recognizes him and can tell us his name.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 11:22 PM
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57. I like your idea
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Summer93 Donating Member (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 11:01 AM
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11. Kick and Recommend
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JPZenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 11:04 AM
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12. Deterioration vs. Terrorist Attacks
After 9-11, it would not have surprised me that terrorists caused a major blackout in the Northeast. Instead, it was caused by faulty equipment in Ohio.

I would not have been surprised if terrorists blew a hole in New Orleans levees while there was high water. Instead, it was caused by faulty engineering and construction and lack of upgrades.

I would not have been surprised if terrorists blew up an interstate highway bridge. Instead, it was done by lack of upgrades.

In New York City, there was a threat 2 years ago that some of the most heavily used subway lines in the country would be out of service for many months. (Fortunately, they were repaired quicker). The cause - a homeless guy setting a small fire in a tunnel to stay warm, which destroyed all kinds of important equipment.
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wizstars Donating Member (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 07:31 AM
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80. Actually, that blackout was traced back......
...to one dim bulb at 1600 Penn., Washington DC

:rofl:
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 11:04 AM
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13. They allow things to collapse and fail so that they can
(a) privatize -- by proving the "ineptness" of the government, they have an argument supporting their desire to privatize everything (it's beyond our capabilities, we need to hire experts and hold them accountable if they fail.)
(b) emergency repairs don't require the proper bid system, anyone can be hired, like no bid contracts, if they can get the job done and done quickly.

The ignored the VA so they can outsource it and try to privatize it. They also use the VA as an argument against the government operating health care "government can't operate the VA or medicare properly, how can the government handle universal health care."

Wasn't there something in the works about privatizing the roads, making more toll roads.

Bottom line - greed is the energy source of this administration. Greed and only greed controls them.

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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 11:11 AM
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15. Exactly.
This is exactly what they are doing.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 11:25 AM
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16. Profiteers make a lot of money with Disaster Capitalism. Can't wait for Naomi Klein's new book
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 11:40 AM
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25. But they also say they want to run government like a business!
In other words, if they're treating government like a business, how the hell can real business handle it??
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 12:18 PM
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30. They don't even come close to running the government like a
business. If they ran a business like they run our government, that business would go belly up in no time. Come to think of it, that is exactly what happened to GWB's business, he ran it into the ground and sold his interests just before it collapsed.

x(
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vssmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 05:23 AM
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71. Like Enron?
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CGowen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 05:54 PM
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45. we have a winner a) din ding ding n/t
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 09:22 PM
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47. everyone is complaining about bridges and roads now. don't they
realize that the fuckhead has been so busy protecting us from terra he hasn't had time to pay attention to these other little details?

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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 11:05 PM
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55. and it has been a purposeful neglect
if they screw things up they can say the government is inept and the services need to be privatized.

the sick bastards. :grr:

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BearSquirrel2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 11:12 PM
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56. Bush's Bitch Mitch ...

Bush's Bitch Mitch sold of the Indiana Toll Road that linked South Bend to Chicago. He was pushing for three other toll road projects but he got shut down. We'll see how the privatization goes. Likely, it will not be good. I expect to see a crumbling road.

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rucognizant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 06:51 AM
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77. SOmething in the Works?
I think some if it is already a done deal! I think Australia owns the Tappen Zee Bridge.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 08:55 AM
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87. I listen to talk radio on the way in to work (all we get are the kookie
righties) and Glen Beck this morning was talking about it, the government failure - the levies the bridges the infrastructure medicare - yada - need to privatize.

absolutely amazing, the propaganda continues and no blame placed on management, those inept fools put in high jobs by bush to garner political favor, no talk of failures to operate the program and no talk of oversight or responsibility, just talk of failures and privatization.

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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 07:54 AM
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83. Our (Dem) governor in PA wants to privatize our turnpike system
So turning our roads over to a company that not only needs to maintain the roads but MAKE A PROFIT, TOO is going to save us money how? I see only more corner-cutting which will lead to decreased safety.

The only positive I see is that those who use the roads more may pay more than those of use who don't, thus saving tax money that might go to public transportation, which can't be privatized (no public transportation system in the world makes a profit, so you don't see any rush to privatize it)
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 08:59 AM
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88. I've never understood those that support privatization.
they say it saves money, but if a company can make a profit at it, why can't the government and then put that money back into the system, back into the program.

Some argue the company is strapped with civil service concerns and high pay employees, as if the violations of workers rights and taking from them what they need is right as long as it isn't "us" doing it.

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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 08:59 AM
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89. Toll Collections on Many U.S. Highways Going to Foreign Firms - Link
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 11:28 AM
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17. Woah! That's pretty amazing.
Did Keith switch to CNN? :silly:
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Alpharetta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 11:29 AM
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18. Could have mentioned an outdated levee system.... n/t
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 11:31 AM
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19. Give Kudo's to Keith Olbermann
He's made the airwaves safe for this kind of reporting.
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 10:30 PM
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51. Katrina was the one who did that
but kudos to Keef anyway.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 11:32 AM
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20. If he doesn't get fired, he'll get counseled.
He will be asked if he enjoys his paycheck.

He will be told, "no more criticism of Bush or his policies."

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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 11:33 AM
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21. Oops, a reporter with a brain slipped into the mix.
I'm sure they'll find him a nice job covering Lindsey Lohan or puppies soon.
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cureautismnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 11:37 AM
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23. Hooray for that reporter!
Finally, someone tells it like it is rather than telling us what the GOP wants us to hear. :applause:

Let Iraqis pay for building and re-building their own infrastructure and let us concentrate on fixing our own broken system.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 11:39 AM
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24. And our jobs to other countries, some of which may not particulalry care for us.
Edited on Thu Aug-02-07 11:39 AM by HypnoToad
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 11:53 AM
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27. Where's the outrage? Why aren't the American people up in arms about this?
Where are all the "no-tax" people?

That's also part of the problem.

We don't speak up.

We don't demand.
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PearliePoo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 12:31 PM
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32. I just called my Senators
Patty Murray and Maria Cantwell, Washington State.
Their aides are saying they are fielding many calls like mine.
We are re-building Iraq infrastructure to the tune of billions (after we destroyed it) and America's is decaying by the minute.
Let your voices be heard!
(I love to take back road highways when traveling and I notice that thousands of bridges were built in the 30's. The year the bridge was built is usually cast right in the concrete at the beginning of the span)
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 11:03 PM
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54. Thanks for letting me know they're getting lots of calls.
Maybe some people are actually waking up and finding their spines?
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Johnny Noshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 05:28 AM
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74. Yep they were built in the '30's
Edited on Fri Aug-03-07 05:28 AM by Johnny Noshoes
under a Democratic President, a Democratic Congress putting people back to work and rebulding the middle class. Making us a better country in the process. All those who whine about taxes need to shut up and learn that taxes are the membership dues in a civil society. You spend money on weapons and war and yeah you might create some jobs but when you use the products of those jobs they're gone up in smoke. When you build and maintain bridges and roads and rail lines and schools and mass transit systems and all that you build a stronger healthier better middle class and a better greater America.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 12:24 PM
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31. Wish he'd have also said that "Tax Cuts are not a governing philosophy."
Our crumbling infrastructure is largely due to the push for tax cuts over the last 30 years, as a means to buy votes by the Republican Party. Tax cuts are not a governing philosophy, they're an accounting scam.
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 12:32 PM
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33. let's not forget the mining disaster of last year...lack of inspection and enforcement. nt
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 12:46 PM
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34. Don't ever forget Wilbur Ross, a billionaire with homes on Fifth Avenue, in the Hamptons & Palm Bch
Edited on Thu Aug-02-07 12:48 PM by 1776Forever
Yes - let's not forget this man - Wilbur Ross, a billionaire with homes on Fifth Avenue, in the Hamptons and Palm Beach, who bears the ultimate responsibility for the Sago mine. His company, the International Coal Group, of which he is the chairman and principal owner....

http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/Mine/story?id=1476409

Just one of many CEO's who could care less for quality of life and ethics -

I am sure he is a Bush supporter!!!!!!!!!:spank:
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Theres-a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 01:20 PM
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35. .
:patriot:
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 02:10 PM
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38. Good to hear.
Not to be be picky, but he forgot mentioning the tax cuts given to the rich by the same turkey who's to blame for the billions & billions spent over in Iraq.
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 02:46 PM
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40. Just goes to show you how f'ing sick & tired everybody is of this "war"
for ALL kinds of reasons, such as this!

K & R
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 04:31 PM
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42. Bush has made across the board FY 2007 cuts among all fed agencies
Edited on Thu Aug-02-07 04:37 PM by lebkuchen
unless they are strictly war related. It's a reporter's obligation to point this out, especially when the results of making these cuts are played out so dramatically and catastrophically.

Most folks may not have a child in the military, and so are not part of a public outcry to stop the war in Iraq. However, everyone has a stake in the road/bridge system. Once people apply basic cause/effect logic to the current situation...if we spend our tax dollars in Iraq, we won't have any left for our road systems here at home! :think: ...the public outcry will crescendo. If I'm wrong, then it's official: Americans lack a central nervous system.
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BrightKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 04:37 PM
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43. 13% structurally deficient and fewer are major arteries
Edited on Thu Aug-02-07 04:39 PM by BrightKnight
Governor Pawlenty can't squirm out of this like that. Of the 13% of bridges rated structurally deficient most of them are not going to be major arteries. I35 was one of the largest and the busiest bridge in the state. Mn/DoT chose to generate an inspection report rather than repair or replace the bridge. He got behind the new stadium and managed to get the funds for that.

Apparently bridges don't make good photo ops.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 05:53 PM
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44. Lou Dobbs just did a big segment on this. Nt
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 05:57 PM
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46. Disasters are so visual that they help
help some people to understand Bushit. Good for him. Katrina was a similar moment that woke up a lot of sheeple.
The Rethugs can wave adios to Minnesota. Dems need to frame this in terms of wasting money in Iraq while the country deteriorates.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 09:52 PM
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48. Finally found it: Greg Hunter


HARRIS: And Greg, is the reason we're not talking about fixes here because it's about money and political will?

HUNTER: Well, I'm neither Democrat nor Republican, but we are spending billions of dollars, you know, every month in Iraq. That money has to come from somewhere.

And the people at the American Society of Civil Engineers say, we're running deficits now. You know, a decade ago, in the '90s, we were running surpluses, in the trillions. And now we're running deficits.

So, the money to repair the infrastructure, it's just a dollar- and-cents issue...

HARRIS: Yes.

HUNTER: ... that the money is not there as it used to be.

Back to you guys.

HARRIS: OK. CNN's Greg Hunter for us.

Greg, appreciate it. Thank you, sir.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0708/02/cnr.02.html



http://www.cnn.com/CNN/anchors_reporters/hunter.greg.html

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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 11:29 PM
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59. Do we have any e-mail addresses
to thank him and his bosses?
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 10:34 AM
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96. Is this the man?
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 10:10 PM
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49. Unbelieve because that's a lot of truth and Dems haven't pointed to GOP Third World America --

The Republicans are destroyers --
and the Dems should be pointing that out --

I'm wondering if this CNN reporter will be forced into a retractio of some kind?

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 10:11 PM
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50. In NJ, we have the Tappan Zee which needs to be totlaly replaced --
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rucognizant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 07:04 AM
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78. Wasn't that NY tpk authority?
See my post # 77 above. Then write John Howard!
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 10:56 PM
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53. Costofwar.com's estimate of Minneapolis loss due to occupation in Iraq is
Edited on Thu Aug-02-07 10:56 PM by EVDebs
about $675 million ... enough to have fixed that bridge I'll bet and a whole lot more.

http://www.nationalpriorities.org/Cost-of-War/Cost-of-War-3.html
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 11:29 PM
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58. Modern day republicans are DESTROYERS!
It needs to be repeated....

REPUBLICANS ARE DESTROYERS!!!! They create Nothing.....they only destroy....and modern day Democrats aren't much better.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 11:33 PM
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60. It's so ironic too - we've built a TON of infrastructure in Iraq too
Edited on Thu Aug-02-07 11:34 PM by HughMoran
Even more ironic, a huge amount of that infrastructure we built in Iraq has been destroyed or is not functional.

:-(
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 12:28 AM
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63. Even worse, we're building infrastructure over THERE, so we don't have to build it over HERE.
Oh, the fucking irony.
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beltanefauve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 11:44 PM
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61. The writing is on the wall
The first signs that the Roman Empire was falling was when their military was overextended and they couldn't take care of their people. Katrina was the tipping point for our empire, and now this.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 12:29 AM
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64. Funny you should say that...
...the first thought that popped into my head when I heard this story was "Rome is crumbling."

Well, wha'daya know.
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Broken Top Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 11:50 PM
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62. Cnn reporter speaks the truth
Well, I doubt he will keep his job! Telling the truth about something is not the agenda for the mainstream media. We need to go back 27 years to the election of the "Great Communicator" and his sound bite administration to understand that his removal of revenue sharing was just the beginning of the end of federal government involvement in maintaining the infrastructure of this country. Reports state the bridge was part of the I-35W federal interstate highway system and as such I believe is (or was) the responsibility of the federal government to maintain. Well, obviously they maintained it like they do everything else--let it fall apart while we build, sell and use weapons of mass destruction and give tax breaks to the rich. First things first, folks.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 12:56 AM
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65. YOU KNOW IT BROKEN TOP
Edited on Fri Aug-03-07 12:56 AM by Skittles
:thumbsup:
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 01:28 AM
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66. Same thing said on MSM today. Everyone is saying this. Stating the obvious!
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shimmergal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 03:47 AM
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68. With a decent admin., we SHOULD be able to
recoup some of the money spent on the *^&#@ Iraq war.

Now a lot of it's just been blown up, but money made by the rip-off "contractors" and their CEOs,
who're profiting from their own mismanagement and the blood and lives of U.S. soldiers, should be regarded as a prime target for recovery. Fines are the most obvious way, but there should be additional financial penalties for malfeasance too. Certainly Cheney should be hit up for the Halliburton money that he's undoubtedly still rolling in.

I hope some smart progressive lawyers are already thinking about ways this could be accomplished.
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Wiccan Warrior Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 05:25 AM
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72. Our country is going to goto shit as far as I'm concerned
I don't think anyone cares about our country that's in upper government all they care about is the bottom line and saving their own RICH asses. I **spit** on them.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 05:26 AM
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73. I was listening to a local radio reporters roundtable on NPR
on Thursday discussing lots of local issues and they mentioned Missouri Bridges and overpasses as well. The host said basically the same thing that the money was all spent in Iraq.

:toast:
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 05:36 AM
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75. What would you rather have--world domination or safe bridges?
Empire has its costs.

Actually, we're a rather piss poor excuse for an empire. The Romans achieved world domination--at least as much as they could control with the technology at hand--and also managed to build excellent roads and bridges--some of which are still in use some 2000 years later.

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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 07:31 AM
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81. This guy is SO FIRED. They will either break him or dissmiss him
Honest journalism is to be stamped out at Operation Mockingbird v2.0 HQ (CNN in Atlanta)
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 07:48 AM
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82. yeah, but it's about the oil man
we'ves gots to have that oil or we couldn't drive the cars to go over the collapsing bridges. oh and the war, gots to have the war, must keep provoking the insurgency to have a reason to keep the troops in Iraq. Sadly, vicious cycle
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 08:07 AM
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84. Kudos to this dude, whoever he is. K&R. nt
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ringtailtooter Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 09:32 AM
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92. NPR also has been discussing the aging infrastructure issue also.
On last night's "All Things Considered" and today's "Morning Edition" they have gingerly woven the message into the bridge stories. They also discussed the enormous cost to repair and rebuild what is known to be problematic, something like $40 billion a year for the next 30 years. And that's what we are behind on, not counting unknown damage and future necessities.

Privatization is not the way to go as most Republicans desire. It usually costs more in the long haul, little oversight and opportunity for rampant greed and corruption as we all have witnessed in Iraq.

I just finished reading "Jeb, America's Next Bush" by S.V. Dáte, the Palm Beach reporter who followed the other side of Florida's Governorship. Watch out for him, he's right up there with the rest of the Bush clan trying to privatize everything and personally bilk the government for all he can get. What's scary is he is much smarter than any of his brothers and father. God forbid he ever make it to the White House.
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disndat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 10:04 AM
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94. The reality is
a relative small percentage of the people are personally and directly affected by the Iraq war, but almost everyone crosses over bridges twice a day. Maybe now, finally, people will understand Bush's "frakonomics."
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JohnShadows Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 10:06 AM
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95. Hey, we gotta spend it on the miltary ..
... or so the reasoning goes. We spend over a half-trillion dollars a year now on military contracts and war. We can't afford to fix 70,000 bridges. I tell you, the leaders of our party need to do some serious talk about 're-prioritizing' now, and not later.
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Raejeanowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 10:49 AM
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97. Whoa!
This was my own thought when Himself started making partisan hay out of the disaster the other day.

Admittedly, I don't crunch the numbers for Federal transportation money, gas tax dollars; I'm not on top of the budget detail, and I'm not certain the state didn't have some level of funding responsibility for repairs and maintenance.

However, Iraqi war dollars are needed and can be better used elsewhere in America. And while they're fixing the roads and bridges, maybe we could spare some decent medical and psychological care for our veterans? And then maybe some transitional homeless shelters/housing....
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 02:34 PM
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99. How can we make it so that if by some stroke, the $ comes back here
Halliburton doesn't get the contract to do all the rebuilding?
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