Deep Throat 2

[Buttercup McToots]

sez we have to do this...

C. Talk to your friends in other states.
6. Discuss This Draft Indictment At State level
A. State Standing
Constitution guarantees to all States a Republican Form of government, which includes an enforcement mechanism.

B. Assertion of Retained State Power
States have power to do this: Amendment X reserves all non-delegated powers to the States. Congress was not delegated power to prosecute a President only impeach. States retain and may at any time assert this non-delegated, reserved power at any time without coordination with Congress. The intent of framers was for the States to act as one of the last vanguards of the Constitution against an abusive Government. The State prosecution is consistent with the Framers intent of preserving the Constitution, not, as this Congress and president have done, impersmissibly let the Constitution decay.
C. Allegations
President's conduct has denied the States of the Constitutionally Protected Guarantees: Refusal to enforce; failure to defend Constitution; illegal abrogation of Supreme Law and Geneva.
D. Charge
President has violated his oath of office to ensure the States enjoy a Republican Form of Government; and illegally abrogated war crimes.
E. Punishment, Remedy
The President and Vice President may be jailed; pending their release, the Speaker shall Assume Duties of President. President and VP shall retain title of "President' and "Vice President" but all legal duties and power shall be transferred to Pelosi and her Congressionally-approved Nominee, per 25th Amendment, by a simple majority vote in each house.
Make it happen.

[DemReadingDU]

1. Thanks for a new thread, here's link to Deep Throat 1

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1479959&mesg_id=1479959

[Gregorian]

2. I want to hear John Dean's thoughts on this.

I have a feeling Olberman will be talking with him.

[Buttercup McToots]

3. Me too...

:applause:

[peacetalksforall]

5. Listen to Dean - see if he repeats the best argument anyone has

made - no matter how far the exercise of impeachment goes -

... an impeachment trial in the Senate means that they cannot hide (my word) - they must comply with testimony, documents, etc. We would learn the truth.

And Dean and others have told us - that running out of time before 2009 doesn't matter - there is no time limit on an mpeachment trial. And Dean and others have said - the declaration in the House does not have to take a lot of time. The Senate does the work.

The people of this country who were promised a Constitution, Bill of Rights, right to vote, balance of power, right to impeach MUST do this - we can't rely on our leaders to make the call.

We can't let corporate tv to get in our way. There are work arounds to Republican owned propaganda networks.

[Buttercup McToots]

4. Back to Baker Botts...

Adam J. White

White working as counsel for an AT&T affiliated entity Baker Botts did release a questionable editorial about state secrets. It remains to be understood who within the Republican Party sent this e-mails requesting White write an editorial; or whether white issued information to mislead the public. Legal services used to advance illegal warfare are DC Bar Rule 1.16. A grand Jury could conclude that White and other legal counsel were part of efforts to provide misleading information to dissuade action to enforce Geneva and FISA against legal counsel, contractors, and others indirectly supporting the unlawful FISA violations and war crimes

[AntiFascist]

6. Interesting, but which states can make this happen?

California is governed by a moderate Republican.

[Buttercup McToots]

7. Good un

Damn

Can't do any copy of this...But sure is interesting...Take a peek...
1 Enter at URL < http://mpuc.informe.org/easyfile/easyweb.php?func=easyweb_query >

2. At the second block, "Case ID" -- Enter this number < 2006274 >

The case file you are looking at is the backup information and messages related to the Maine Power Utility Lawsuit against Verizon. This relates to the recent ruling that the state AG's of Vermont, Maine, Missouri, and New Jersey can proceed with the litigation on re NSA at the _state_ level. Recall DoJ threatened to sue the state AGs to dissuade them from taking action, in re Honorable Vaughn R. Walker.

There are some important things to notice in the casefile: If you go through the records, as you have with the DOJ E-mail dumps you're going to see some interesting things.

* Disclosed Verizon E-mail Addresses Link To NSA, FISA Intermediaries

Recall, one of the problems has been the missing RNC e-mails. There's an answer to the missing holes. Inside the Maine PUC file for the Verizon, are their e-mail addresses for their internal e-mails. These were not supposed to have been disclosed; but one of the counsel's memoranda lists an e-mail for the internal system. To make a long story short, once you index the e-mails for the Verizon internal e-mail system, you can then use open source information to cross-index with the outside NSA-FISA intermediaries: One of them is AMDOCS. Within the Verizon e-mail is also open disclosure of the Verizon General Counsel request for and receipt of information related to specific legal questions related to various litigation issues of interest to the FISA-NSA surveillance.

In court, once something has been disclosed, that cannot be hidden.

At the bottom of page 3 I think...it sez

Verizon responses came not from Mr. Seidenberg but from Drew C. Arena, who in his response lists his Verizon title as VP & Associate General Counsel for Law Enforcement and National Secuirty Compliance. Follow-up questions to Mr. Arena's responses were again sent to Mr. Seidenberg, and again responses came from Mr. Arena: therewfore, subsequent questions were sent directly to Mr. Arena.

mmmmmm

[Tuesday_Morning]

8. I can't open the link...

[Buttercup McToots]

10. I can...

Maine Public Utilities...

[Tuesday_Morning]

11. ooops

now I can

[Buttercup McToots]

9. 5/06...pdf...initial filing

:o

[DemReadingDU]

14. From the initial filing

I see Mark Klein's name, whistleblower in the AT&T case. I remember there was discussion about him last year. I suppose all this is related to Verizon, but my brain is too full to absorb much more today.

[Buttercup McToots]

16. Ok

This is one of the key strands linking Verizon to the NARUS, AT&T, and the intermediaries between the commercial sector and the NSA. You'll notice many common names of conferences, review topics, and other material which closely matches what is in the Klein affidavit related to AT&T

[Buttercup McToots]

12. Ok I'm Scared...

Don't know if I should post anymore...
There is stuff there...

[rockedthevoteinMA]

13. What stuff? n/t

[Buttercup McToots]

15. What is this?

http://neustar.biz/infrastructure/fcs.cfm


Who We Are

fiducianet is a full-service outsourcing contractor for the management of a carrier's compliance with subpoenas and court orders, and all its obligations under lawful electronic surveillance law, including CALEA, USA PATRIOT Act, ECPA, T-III, and FISA. Our service offering includes:

Responsibility for Subpoenas and Court Orders

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Management of Call Data and Content

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Primary Point of Contact for Law Enforcement

In summary, we provide end-to-end Electronic Surveillance (ELSUR) compliance including subpoena and court order review and processing, provisioning of the intercepts and records storage. As your Carrier Agent we will also testify on your behalf as the "custodian" of your records. Additionally, we are officially designated your 24/7 point-of-contact for the LEA’s and will notify the FCC and the LEA’s of this fact on your behalf. As an added bonus, we are able to provide primary level fraud detection and fraud management at significantly lower cost than your having to buy the software yourself and build the personnel infrastructure in-house. As you become more familiar with the fiducianet system you can introduce fraud management into your network at a fraction of the cost of doing it yourself.



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[tbyg52]

17. Someone has created a Digg on the mystery poster, dubs him/her "Deep Modem"

Just happened to stumble across it. It has a link to DU, but not to the original TPMmuckraker (although that link *is* here, of course).

If y'all think this should be widely disseminated, you can go here to Digg it:
http://digg.com/politics/Mystery_poster_Deep_Modem_spil...
(It's only got six Diggs at time of this posting.)

[Buttercup McToots]

18. Link doesn't work..

:)

[silverlib]

19. The link worked, but the

information is not there - I got an "oops, the #(*& you are looking for is gone." (paraphrased of course.)

[tbyg52]

21. Sorry!

Trying again:
http://digg.com/politics/Mystery_poster_Deep_Modem_spilling_inside_info_on_WH_DoJ_Bush_crimes_ops

[truedelphi]

20. Sad to think that the spineless in

Congress mean that we now need to do things on the State level