on dailykos, Obama confirms my fears, believes in GWOT, is for unilateral invasion of Pakistan

[jsamuel]

Barack Obama Might Invade Pakistan to Seek Terrorists
Is Obama Suggesting War within Pakistan?

This story is being reported in the Washington Post as part of Obama's speech.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070801/ap_on_el_pr/obama_terrorism

WASHINGTON - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said Wednesday that he would send troops into Pakistan to hunt down terrorists even without local permission if warranted — an attempt to show strength when his chief rival has described his foreign policy skills as naive.

Updated:
Obama's full statement:
http://www.barackobama.com/2007/08/01/the_war_we_need_to_win.php

Also Jerome on Mydd.com:
http://www.mydd.com/story/2007/8/1/111853/1460

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So, there's a caveat of saying "if we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets," before it's OK to launch a pre-emptive strike/invasion-- it's the smarter-stick of Obama rather than the dumb-club of Bush. But this is basically a continuation of the Bush-Cheney doctrine of endorsing pre-emptive military attacks abroad, lighter perhaps, but certainly not the mentality that would pull us out of the mideast quagmire.

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[Virginia Dare]

1. Did Obama accidentally pour kool-aid on his Wheaties this morning?

:wtf:

[stellanoir]

2. Holy crap

When the heck are people gonna get it through their thick crania that wars are now unwinnable in this still new millennium. . .?

[debbierlus]

3. Obama is for nuclear energy as well...Beware of him

And, Hilliary.

They are too corporately tied to truly represent us.

[BonnieJW]

8. I agree completely.

Edwards/Richardson. The pukes are terrified of Edwards and are constantly bad mouthing him. They praise O and C because that's who they want to run against

[spoony]

11. I don't think the two are comparable

Invading a country is nowhere near the same as people having legitimate opposing points of view about nuclear energy.

[cgrindley]

4. Well, it sort of has to happen

Pakistan's not doing shit owing to the fact that the government is terrified of an Islamic uprising. Pakistan has to NOT do anything because if it did, then the Islamists would have more reason to attempt to seize power.

Bush co are so terrified of losing Pakistan (even though Pakistan is not terribly friendly) that it is also refusing to act.

Obama's solution, and it is the right solution, is to attack the terrorists in the tribal areas, and risk either a) plunging Pakistan into a civil war that could end in a militant islamist government, or b) alienate Pakistan altogether regardless of who's running the place.

The way I see it, those risks are less irritating than the current condition, and I would rely on India to keep Pakistan under control.

[Benhurst]

5. I'm hoping this story is untrue. It wouldn't be the first time. Otherwise,

if true, it's a clear example of his being NRFPT, Not Ready For Prime Time. Please, someone, post a refutation of this.

[Perky]

6. "WOULD" "IF WARANTED" Is not the same as....NOT NEARLY THE SAME AS

beign for a Unilateral invasion of Pakistan.


Listen to the Speech before you spread the BS.

[BlooInBloo]

17. CLOSE ENOUGH!!!!! END DAYS!!!!!

:rofl:

Drama queen DUers slay me.

[Bitwit1234]

7. I don't think Obama wants all out war. I think he is just trying to

get people excited about his candidacy once again. Maybe he has a viable point but not invasion.

[proud2BlibKansan]

9. Oh shit

Well this narrows my choices.

[zanne]

10. Before we get hysterical, we should read Obama's full statement

On his website, read "remarks of Senator Obama:The War We Need to Win"
http://www.barackobama.com/2007/08/01/the_war_we_need_to_win.php

[jsamuel]

12. updated op

[krispos42]

14. It's a good speech. He's talking about raids into Pakistan, it looks like

Some special forces to do raids to capture or kill terroists, that sort of thing, in the areas that Mussarrif can't or won't exercise control over.

Hell of a different thing than invading and occupying a nuclear-armed Pakistan.

[jsamuel]

13. updated with Jerome from mydd

[dk2]

15. Bad planning

This will surely cause him some Poll points......... many poll points, if I were an Obama supporter right now, I would be worried.

[Disturbed]

16. The Busholini Regime is propping up Musharef with $Billions.

The Pakistan Military is the group that is keeping him in power. Without the Pakistan Military approval of US air attacks and some ground forces into the tribal territories a US attack could have a serious backlash in Pakistani Govt. which is shaky already. Obama should be careful with his pronouncements.