Biden's chilling speech on 9/10/2001 ~ The Day Before

[Jillian]

What was going on in International Affairs at that time...

The newly formed W administration was withdrawing from the ABM Treaty

And they were hell-bent on developing a better Star Wars system.

Senator Biden and Condilieza appeared together on MTP Sunday before debating how this administration wanted
to handle Missile Defense.

Sen Biden warned (talking about the end of the Cold War)
From that day on, we inherited a profound obligation of leadership, and an even more profound obligation to get it right in the Middle East, in the Balkans, in Europe and Asia, in our hemisphere, in our commitments, our treaties and in our defense policy--missile or otherwise.

Biden warned that this administration was asking for trouble, and that they were taking their eye off the ball of what would be a more likely threat to the US.

Towards the end of his speech, he said these words:
But they're willing to pull out of an ABM Treaty that sends the signal to the rest of the world the end of arms control has arrived. And what protection do we have in the near term, let alone down the road?

Sure, we'll do all we can to defend ourselves against any threat, nobody denies that, but even the Joint Chiefs says that a strategic nuclear attack is less likely than a regional conflict, a major theater war, terrorist attacks at home or abroad, or any number of other real issues. We'll have diverted all that money to address the least likely threat, while the real threat comes to this country in the hold of a ship, the belly of a plane, or smuggled into a city in the middle of the night in a vial in a backpack.


I urge those interested in foreign relations to read Biden's speech that day. It was delivered to the National Press Club.
http://www.joebiden.com/getinformed/speeches?id=0007

And before you argue who has better foreign relations experience between the candidates, take some time to learn how a true foreign relations expert warned this administration how important it is to get foreign relations correct - and I am not referring to Iraq.

[cynatnite]

1. Talk about prophetic...

Biden's not at the top of my list, but he knows foreign policy up one side and down the other. Thanks for posting. :)

[Inuca]

2. Very interesting, THANKS! n/t

[karlrschneider]

3. I like him a little more than I dislike him but he often lets his mouth outrun his brain

which is a shame because he's definitely a bright guy but also a bit of a loose cannon. He reminds me of me and that's why I'm a little frightened by him.

[Jillian]

6. Did you know that as a child he was a stutterer?

Hard to believe now :)

[karlrschneider]

14. He should have stuck with stuttering.

:evilgrin:

[Jillian]

16. very funny!

[Like It Is]

17. Biden speaks from his hear and his head.

Not from a prepared text, like Shillary and Obama.

[JohnnyLib2]

4. He can be an effective advisor to the next President.

That covers it for me.

[cynatnite]

11. I think he'd make a good Sec. of State n/t

[jillan]

12. He was recently asked that in an interview - his answer -

No - Hell no!

Rumor has it that if Kerry would have gotten in the WH, Biden would have been his.
This time Biden is going for the top.

[demommom]

27. I think

..... he would make a good president!

[Maccagirl]

5. He definately belongs in position of influence

in the next Dem administration, if the president is savvy and smart enough to use his talents.

[Jillian]

8. Hmmm - will all the crap going on in the world

He belongs in charge. We need someone with his foresight right now.

Let someone like Edwards be his VP. Or even Obama.

[eridani]

7. His foreign policy proposals are fine

I just don't like him fucking over American consumers on behalf of MBNA.

[w8liftinglady]

9. he would make a good cabinet member-if we can get a dem in the white house

[JohnnyLib2]

13. IF ??

That oughta stir things up tonight! LOL

[w8liftinglady]

15. lol...well-c'mon.think about it-considering mainstream America

[Jillian]

10. Sounds like the administration is getting closer to adopting his Plan for Iraq

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3410813

[Jillian]

18. kickin for the Sunday crowd - it's worth reading n/t

[burythehatchet]

19. ...and if he only had a clue about domestic issues he might be

worth considering for more than 8 seconds. Ask me about the bankruptcy bill!

[Jillian]

20. Biden has done alot on domestic issues

His legislation just passed the Senate this past week to help low income families send their children to college.

Biden was the author of the the Violence Against Women Act which established that national domestic violence hotline.

Also the author of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act which was responsible for putting more than 100,000 police officers on the streets, which was passed during the Clinton administration. And if you think back, Clinton was always boasting on how crime went down during his Presidency.

30 March 2007
US Senator Joe Biden (D-DE) has introduced legislation that would significantly increase US investment in the development of advanced lithium-ion batteries for electric vehicles and plug-in hybrids.
Specifically, Biden’s bill would support the development of advanced electric components, systems and vehicles, by providing funds for battery research to national laboratories, small businesses, and institutes of higher learning
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2007/03/biden_introduce.html

Also about energy - he has made this statement:
If we want to regain control of our national security, we must, must deal with our dependence on foreign oil. If it was not clear before, it is now. Domestic energy policy is at the center of our foreign policy. 7/19/2006
If you think about it, he is right. And I have to give credit to Kerry for this as well. Our dependence on oil from violatile countries is one of the biggest problems of our foreign policy.

About healthcare - he hasn't come out with a detailed plan - yet. But he definitely wants to provide healthcare to all children, revamp the current healthcare system, and use electronic databases to reduce medical errors.

Wants to get rid of *s tax cuts for the wealthy.

About the Bankruptcy Bill - there are reasons he voted for it. One reason that people always overlook is that it prevents
a divorced parent from claiming bankruptcy to get out of making child support payments. And that is huge.
And obviously he is from DE, the credit card capital of the world. Those are his constituents.
That said - I watched the procedings on the Senate floor that day, and yelled at him for voting for it.
I understand his vote, but I don't agree with it. But that is the only thing I have against Biden, well - sometimes I get pissed at some of the things he says. But overall, I agree with his policies and his goals. I think he would be a strong leader for these times.

[OzarkDem]

21. Wish Biden had been as interested during Clinton's term

instead of spending his time impeaching Clinton for a blow job.

Imagine Clinton and Gore could have advanced their agenda to protect the US and track Al Qaeda if they'd gotten what they asked from Congress.

But guys like Biden were too busy worrying about Monica Lewinsky.

Biden destroyed his credibility many times over back in those days. He'll have to do more than make a few speeches to win it back.

[Jillian]

23. WTF are you talking about??????????

Biden voted NOT GUILTY on BOTH counts.:crazy:

[OzarkDem]

30. Do a little research, girlfriend; he said Clinton should resign over bj

Of course Biden had to vote no on impeachment - the charges were baseless and the public was sickened by the whole thing. He did suggest Clinton should resign - which did just as much damage, then backtracked later when he caught criticism for it.

Biden took a number of opportunities to criticize Clinton and work with the GOP to keep the non-scandal brewing instead of focusing on legislation for US security and tracking bin Laden, as did Joe Lieberman and quite a few other self-serving Dems in Congress. Biden worked very closely with Sen Jesse Helms on the
http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/08/24/lewinsky/

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1998/09/16/starr.report/


Biden Sides w/ GOP in Call for Delay in Missile Defense Plan

http://tinyurl.com/2cy9jr

Biden Took Sides w/ GOP Criticizing Clinton Over Russians & Chechnya

http://tinyurl.com/2e87qd

Biden Criticized Clinton's Choice for Surgeon General

http://tinyurl.com/36nupf

on and on, its a pretty long list...


Biden has always been interested primarily in promoting his own career, he's never been much of a team player. Those characteristics will make him a poor choice for President, because he's betrayed the trust of quite a few people.

I'm sure, as a supporter or campaign staffer that you are fervently in favor of his candidacy, but you may want to do some research on Biden. He's alienated a lot of people, pursued a conservative agenda in Congress and spent more time criticizing fellow Dems than Republicans. Its his record and if you're going to cheer-lead for him you'll need to be prepared to defend it.

:eyesroll:

[Jillian]

36. Duh that Biden disagreed with Clinton's missile defense plan....I posted why in the OP

Biden felt that we were throwing away money when the bigger threat could come in a terrorist attack from the belly of a plane.
And guess what? He was right.

About Dr Foster - thank g-d that Biden opposed it. Did you read that article that you linked?
Dr. Foster performed involuntary hysterectomies on retarded girls. Oh - I suppose you think that is a good idea?
That, I believe is now illegal.

And about Clinton, one article said that Biden told Clinton to tell the truth to the American people.
Which he didn't at first. He lied. How stupid to get a bj in the oval office. Maybe Biden just wanted
to get passed this scandal and get back to pressing issues....like the threat of OBL. I don't know. That was one
article in the MSM. While Bill Clinton was one of the better Presidents we have had, there are alot of things about him I didn't like. This was one. It was stupid...even more stupid than Vitter.

As far as being a 'conservative' Biden's ranking is 80% liberal, same as Hillary.
Barack Obama's ranking is 83% Edwards' was 94.5% (I do like Edwards too)
http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating_detail.php?sig_id=004121M

And for your information, I am a supporter, not a staffer . . .but if they asked me to, I would work for Biden in a heartbeat!

[Pastiche423]

22. You support a plagiarist for the highest office in the land?

That sure says a lot about you.

[Jillian]

24. And who do you support?

I'll be glad to dig up dirt on the mistakes they made 20 years ago.

[Pastiche423]

25. Why don't you answer my question?

[Jillian]

26. What - that he used the words of Kinnock, and did not mention

where the quote came from..... And the Dukakis campaign went after him for it? And won.
But, in retrospect - isn't karma funny? look at what happened to Dukakis.

No, that doesn't bother me. He screwed up. He acknowledged it - over and over again. And he has learned from his mistake.
And now, it is a part of his campaign speeches. When he quotes someone, he makes sure everyone knows where it came from.
The crowd always laughs. So get over it! It happened 20 years ago. He has been re-elected to the Senate numerous times since then.
Compared to what other politicians have done, using someone else's words is a misdemeanor, and he already paid the price for his mistake.

Now, answer my question.

on edit - maybe that is why Biden refuses to attack the other Dems, even tho I wish he would.

[mzmolly]

28. Our fellow DU-er isn't generally supportive of Democrats.

I doubt any of the current candidates meet her standards? :shrug:

[OzarkDem]

31. Many of us haven't decided yet and don't plan to

Primaries are so divisive and the GOP and the news media are great at using them to exploit divisions within the Democratic Party.

Personally, I think its way to early for primary campaigns, but that's my opinion. I won't be making a choice or even discussing candidates for several more months, I don't like getting involved in the fights w/ fellow Dems.

I'd rather spend this time encouraging my party's candidates and voters to research and discuss substantive issues, instead of candidates, particularly health care.

And whomever my party chooses as its candidate, I'll support completely.

[mzmolly]

33. I'm among the undecided unless Gore announces.

;)

[demommom]

29. And it says:

That you are stuck in the past.

[OzarkDem]

32. Welcome to DU!

[demommom]

34. Thanks

:hi:

[KAT119]

35. Thanks