Was Pat Tillman murdered? Did the WH cover it up?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

Was Pat Tillman murdered? Sure looks like it. If this were a detective novel, it wouldn't sell because it'd be too boring.

No, it's not proved yet, but if there's ever a real investigation, my money's on murder.

Did the WH cover it up? Yeah, clearly. If I'm not mistaken, they're still claiming executive privilege.

Now, I can see cover ups for things like pretzel induced fainting, or sending people notes explaining how you have to go to the little boy's room. But murder? Unless every gangster and cop movie I've ever seen is wrong, if you cover up a murder that makes you complicit with the murder. And you can't claim executive privilege on murder.

So if Tillman was murdered, and it sure looks like he was, then it doesn't really matter if Bush had anything to do with it himself originally.

Just some food for thought.

[glowing]

1. I feel sorry for his family... All these lies.. how can they ever put his

death past them?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

4. You're asking how they can start putting it past them?

Convicting the killers would be a start.

[glowing]

18. Its just a shame that this has been so long and drawn out for them.

[libnnc]

2. Excellent point

Conspiracy to cover up a murder.

[MethuenProgressive]

3. this is why we get called "moonbats"...

"Elvis, on orders from George Bush, rode the Loch Ness monster to Afghanistan, and used Dick Cheney's shotgun to kill Pat Tillman!"
:eyes:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

6. Which part do you disagree with?

[MethuenProgressive]

9. "if Tillman was murdered, and it sure looks like he was..."

That bit, and the whole batch of "Bush killed Tillman!" post cluttering up DU.
Yeah, they covered up the friendly fire FUBAR that caused his death, but to stretch that out into intentional murder ordered by the Whitehouse?
see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_Derangement_Syndrome

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

11. Really, MP?

Several pointblank gunshots to the back of the head, his shooter claimed it was an accident during a fire fight, no evidence of a fire fight, they destroyed the evidence, and then there was a coverup.

You think that doesn't look like murder?

Who's calling who a moonbat?

"Yeah, they covered up the friendly fire FUBAR that caused his death, but to stretch that out into intentional murder ordered by the Whitehouse?"

Ah, the problem is you didn't read my OP. I never said it was ordered by the white house. I'm saying they helped cover it up.

[MethuenProgressive]

13. "And you can't claim executive privilege on murder."

First this,: And you can't claim executive privilege on murder.
Then this: I never said it was ordered by the white house.
:eyes:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

14. Yeah, now read the whole thing.

If they covered up the murder, then they'd be complicit with the murder whether they ordered it or not. And you can't claim executive privilege on that.

This isn't rocket science, MP.

[libnnc]

7. Why has the White House tried to cover it up?

Invoking Executive Privilege to try to prevent a criminal investigation into the murder of a US soldier.

What's "moonbatty" about questioning that motive?

[MethuenProgressive]

12. Are you new to this topic?

No offense or anything, but have you been paying attention to the aftermath of Pat Tillman's death before today?

[libnnc]

15. Yes. I have been paying attention.

I think it goes further up the chain of command than the guy who pulled the trigger.

Edit to add: standing in the way of a murder investigation is pretty serious shit. What does the White House have to hide?

[HCE SuiGeneris]

5. No no no. You can't say that. Complete bullshit!

And I have no need to back up my position because you are a conspiracy theorist. You are labeled and now must admit defeat. :sarcasm:

[flyingfysh]

8. Tillman had 2 things against him

1) He was an atheist. He once told one of the people with him something like: "God's not going to help you; you have to do something to help yourself."
2) He was planning to be an outspoken voice against the war when he returned. I saw somewhere he was planning to meet Noam Chomsky.

[Mike Daniels]

16. How many celebrities have spoken out against the war?

Sorry, but Pat Tillman was notable only because he gave up a football career to go fight.

His opinion on the worth or lack of worth re: this war has no more significance to the normal everyday person on the street than the opinion of any other celebrity.

I find it hard to believe that Bush and Co. would have any more concern over what Tillman thought then they care what any other person in the world thinks about the war.

[flyingfysh]

17. They had been using Tillman in their ads

This would have made his return even more embarrassing.

Whether anyone deliberately murdered him or for what reason, I just don't know.

[PA Democrat]

10. White House "Stonewalling" on Pat Tillman Documents

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/071707A.shtml

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Tuesday 17 July 2007

The White House has refused to turn over documents in connection with the US House of Representatives Oversight and Government Reform Committee's investigation into the death of Corporal Pat Tillman, citing executive privilege. However, an examination of the documents released by the Department of Defense (DOD) shows the White House selectively withheld documents which did not fall within their executive privilege claim, and the White House may have ignored a warning from a top military official in order to propagate the fictional story of Tillman's demise.

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According to the Waxman and Davis letter, the withheld email was from a White House speech writer who was preparing a speech President Bush ultimately delivered to the annual White House correspondence dinner on May 1, 2004. The email was a request for additional information about Tillman after news of his death had been reported.

This request seems to have been answered by what the investigators describe as a "high-level military memo warning that the president should be informed that Corporal Tillman was killed by friendly fire." The memo written by Lieutenant General Stanley McChrystal, the commander of the Joint Task Force for Afghanistan, explained Tillman was killed by US forces, and was an attempt to "preclude any unknowing statements by our country's leaders which might cause public embarrassment if the circumstances of Corporal Tillman's death become public."

Despite the warnings from the general, Bush's correspondence dinner speech included the fabricated story of Tillman's heroic death. Speaking on behalf of his family in front of the Oversight Committee nearly three years after the speech, Pat Tillman's brother, Kevin, said, "We believe this narrative was intended ... to deceive the American Public."