***CSPAN2 Reid vs McConnell - now! PART 4***

[ncrainbowgrrl]

Thread #3 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=140904&mesg_id=140904

Thread #2 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=140320&mesg_id=140320

First Thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=139832&mesg_id=139832

[ncrainbowgrrl]

1. Kick for a crappy speech by KBH.

:kick:

:puke:

[LSK]

2. re KBH, how can you be so clueless and be a Senator???

Is it cluelessness or flat out lying?

[ncrainbowgrrl]

5. Um.,, Perhaps some cluelessness and some lying.

She reminds me of a slightly smarter Katharine Harris.

[liam_laddie]

22. KBH is part of the big stall...

I have NEVER heard such rambling with no apparent goal. But
then she's from that state* which gave us DeLay, Bush, Big Oil
and chemicals and god knows what else. A worthless rethug
whore. Even Molly Ivins' memory cannot redeem the crap
humanity which seeps out of TX into DC. Apologies to all y'all
progressive Texans...

[UrbScotty]

80. Think that's bad? You should see the President (nt)

[LSparkle]

3. Uh-oh ... she let it slip that it's about OIL!

What if we were to pull out and let our enemies have the oil revenue?

:puke:

[Pithy Cherub]

4. KBH hair isn't even supporting the surge.

It's going its own way... :crazy:

[LSparkle]

6. She talks just like *

Slowly, like a kindergarten teacher, as if WE're the stupid ones ... when SHE's the one not making sense ...

"Can't stand it when it gits tuff ... "

SHUT THE F*** UP!!!

[Beaverhausen]

7. her reasoning is old and tired

we aren't buying it anymore. Didn't the last election teach her anything?

[acmejack]

15. Not a thing, we fielded a brilliant candidate.

She was head and shoulders above Hutchison in every conceivable measure. KBH beat her 2 to 1.

[jannyk]

8. "The world is going to listen to what we say,I hope we

don't send the wrong message to our friends and our allies (??) that america is not strong'

Silly Cow - the rest of the world is gagging for a change in course!

[LSparkle]

9. She's the Senate's answer to Katie Harris

All breathless and dramatic ... and inconsequential.

Whitehouse up now (thought it was G. Smith).

[jannyk]

10. Sheldon Whitehouse now up

[ncrainbowgrrl]

11. Yay! Whitehouse! One of our new Senators speaking out!

:bounce:

[LSparkle]

13. Something tells me he's going to be around a while

(In the Senate, that is.) Dignified, erudite -- a good speaker, someone who just seems like he was cut out for this work.

[Beaverhausen]

16. Yes- he is impressing me

[ncrainbowgrrl]

20. I agree.

He's also got an awesome name for politics, lol.

And on a totally superficial level, he's pretty good looking, at least as far as I can see from my tiny streaming C-SPAN 2 real media player...

[Sydnie]

79. I'm sorry I missed him speaking

I loved his campaign slogan - "Finally, a Whitehouse in DC you can trust". Good stuff.

[fooj]

59. He's impressive, isn't he?

He has a fan in me.

[Tuesday_Morning]

12. Whitehouse:

People are tired of this president. People voted for change.

[Tuesday_Morning]

14. says:

needs to be resolved thru Iraqi cooperation - not US military force.

[Tuesday_Morning]

17. pResident should announce a plan to redeploy

We will no longer be looked at as occupiers.

Other nations will step up. Right now we are alone.

[Greeby]

18. Huh? What's this about?

I've been out for a long while

[Tuesday_Morning]

21. Senate debate on Iraq

check out threads 1-3...it's been a long time coming.

[LSparkle]

19. "We are, for all intents and purposes, alone ... "

The sole peacemaker, abandoned by other Arab nations afraid of a wider Shiia/Sunni conflict.

He speaks like a seasoned diplomat -- I'm very impressed!

[ncrainbowgrrl]

24. "we were silenced... Let US DELIBERATE."

[Tuesday_Morning]

26. yeah - he's good

Yesterday we were silenced...silenced! by procedure.

[LSK]

23. is this all part of morning business or is there some bill under debate?

[ncrainbowgrrl]

27. I donno- tuned in as people were talking in the first thread...

It's one of the best couple of hours of c-span I've heard in a while though.

[jannyk]

25. we were silencedced mr president - SILENCED by

parliamentary manouvering in this chamber.

[jannyk]

28. Now it's Grassley's turn

[ncrainbowgrrl]

30. not even talking about iraq. (I got my hopes up when they said "the sen. from iowa")

[jannyk]

33. he's coming at it from a dependence on foreign oil aspect

at least I think he is - got a map of the US behind him - maybe he's changing the subject?

[11 Bravo]

29. Grassley up.

Get ready for some barely coherent bullshit.

[ncrainbowgrrl]

32. Me thinks he's been enjoying the "grass" part of his name too much.

:evilgrin:

[butterfly77]

34. I know what you mean...

and now he is interested in energy independence, that's not what he was TRYING to say on c-span...

[LSparkle]

31. Oh, pass the NoDoz, here's Grassley

What the f*** is he talking about? Energy policy?

Talk about changing the subject !!!!

[LSparkle]

35. Does he even KNOW what the subject matter under discussion is?

It's like he just dropped in from an alternate "reality."

:wtf:

[LSK]

38. if this is morning business, he can say whatever he wants

[halobeam]

36. I'm so sorry I missed much of this....

esp. Kerry...

was Feingold up? I have to tape the re-air

[LSK]

37. Grassly pushing ethanol, he is from Iowa...

[halobeam]

39. how much time does this dweeb have left ??

lol

[Beaverhausen]

40. why is he talking about this?

[jannyk]

41. anyone have any idea how much of our time is left?

I believe we began with 90 mins - they were speaking for 15mins each - are we over the top yet? Will Grassley ever shut up????

[kitkat65]

42. Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn

:boring:

[Beaverhausen]

43. Yeah- he kinda put a halt to the great debate they were having

who sent him in there?

[ncrainbowgrrl]

44. mc connell, probably...

[Tuesday_Morning]

45. final point...

I'll wake up now.

[Beaverhausen]

46. good- his final thought. Let's get this thing back on track

and talk about the real issue- IRAQ!

[jannyk]

Tom Harkin up now

[Beaverhausen]

47. YEAH!!! Harkin is up!

[LSK]

48. it is morning business

[Tuesday_Morning]

49. LOL

average people might wonder about our sanity.

[ncrainbowgrrl]

51. Yep... especially that of Warner... (flip-flop)

[Tuesday_Morning]

50. republicans cut off debate

and now a matter that is life and death for many - we can't even debate it.

[Tuesday_Morning]

52. He said:

1000s of calls against surge, now against repubs who've blocked debate. People can't believe it.

[ncrainbowgrrl]

53. I can imagine the people thought that the people in DC got the message...

[Tuesday_Morning]

54. my husband just called McCain, Warner and Hagel's offices

and told 'em what for....He said they sounded pretty harassed.

[ncrainbowgrrl]

55. That last letter just got me. (I'm teary right now)

[Tuesday_Morning]

57. very sad...

My stepson is on his third tour of Iraq. He has a baby girl and wife at home but he now feels as though he'll never come back.

[fooj]

62. Me, too.

:cry:

[Beaverhausen]

56. These letters he is reading...very powerful

[Tuesday_Morning]

58. oh my

:cry:

Harkin: why can't we debate this? The people are so far ahead of us. They know that they were lied to.

[Deb]

60. wow, Harkin says "They know the Iraq war was a *lie*"

as he was making reference to what the people know. I didn't think we'd ever hear that word used on the floor.

[Tuesday_Morning]

61. Harkin: The American people know that this war

is a lie. A mistake.

And mismanaged from the very beginning.

[senseandsensibility]

65. Go, Harkin!

The first time I heard Harkin was at Paul Wellstone's funeral. There is something about his folksy populism that gets me every time.

[Tuesday_Morning]

67. I know what you mean.

[Tuesday_Morning]

63. Millions of Amercans are looking to us to do something...

to confront the truth.

[fooj]

66. He's really communicating his disgust and frustration.

[fooj]

64. Has anyone brought up the NIE released on Friday?

If they have...I missed it. If they haven't...WHY THE HELL NOT?

Has anyone heard a reference to it?

[jannyk]

68. yes - but I don't remember who n/t

[ncrainbowgrrl]

69. I think it's been referenced multiple times.

Can't remember who said it...

[fooj]

71. Thanks. I've been walking in and out all day.

Glad to hear it.

These threads have been GREAT! Kudos to you for starting them.:hi:

[Tuesday_Morning]

70. Harkin really gets to me.

talking re: vietnam memorial. "And you read those names and you wonder what for. What for."

[Greeby]

72. Ugh, Reid bringing up a bill to name today "Ronald Reagan Day"

I think I'm gonna :puke:

[jannyk]

74. Noooooooooo!!!!! Barf!! n/t

[jannyk]

76. Don't we already have a fucking Presidents Day?

[jannyk]

77. Aaaaargh!! Snowflake!!!

[butterfly77]

73. Did I just hear a resolution for Ronald Reagan day...

[senseandsensibility]

75. Reid may pull the bill?

Did I hear correctly?

[TayTay]

78. If you liked Sen. Kerry's speech today, let him know

He has a website, with a new post up about Iraq.

Tell him what you thought when you heard the speech today. That's what netroots are supposed to do, talk to our elected office holders.

Tell 'em what you thought. http://blog.johnkerry.com/