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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 08:04 AM
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Isn't it frustrating that nobody is saying "You were right"?
Since the 2000 selection, we've been trying to tell this country what a dangerous joke George Bush is. We've talked, yelled, screamed, marched in the streets and in private, agonized over the travesty of the Iraq war and many other things. Isn't it just friggin' frustrating that NOBODY is saying "The people who warned us about Bush were right". Instead, we're hearing things like "Well, I voted for him twice, but if I knew then what I know now, I wouldn't have"? AAAAAAAAAGH! Don't you want some conservative gasbag to say, on national television, that WE WERE RIGHT?
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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 08:05 AM
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1. bush is a joke? what is so funny about the next Hitler?
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 08:06 AM
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2. Bush still has 63% approval ratings among Republicans
Edited on Fri Jul-20-07 08:11 AM by emulatorloo
according to the last polling I saw. Zogby.

So you are unlikely to hear that from a conservative gasbag.

The Republicans still LOVE him and think he is wonderful. I guess that explains why the Repub Senators and Congresspeople keep spewing the talking points and voting to protect Bush.

ON EDIT LINK:

http://zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1339

<snip>

Bush’s numbers are stable among Republicans, where he wins a 63% positive rating, and among those who consider themselves political independents – where he wins 31% support. Just 8% of Democrats give the President positive job marks. Among men, 33% gave him positive job marks, while 34% of women gave him a positive rating.

<snip>
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 08:06 AM
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3. I want a t-shirt
"I hated Bush before hating Bush was cool"
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 08:12 AM
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5. My tee-shirt will simply say
"I told you so."
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 10:22 PM
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33. Mine would say, "Don't blame me, I voted for Gore."
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 08:07 AM
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4. now we need more people to say we were right.
what percentage of citizens know what's going on in the country? just asking. this will take massive numbers of people to shake up this government. It is us vs. them.
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tnlurker Donating Member (698 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 08:13 AM
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6. I remember right after 9-11
That a poll was put out that said Bush had a 89% approval rating. I distinctly remember thinking to myself that I was part of the 11% that disapproved.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 08:15 AM
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7. I was hatin' that motherfucker and thinkin' about the con job he was
pullin' on our firemen on the pile. Walking fucking talking cockroach.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:40 AM
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17. Throwing the baseball at the World Series game
I think it was a World Series game-at this point I think it has been written as such.

THAT was his peak. I remember watching it and I could feel the propaganda telling me that it wasn't okay to know how destructive he and his cronies were.

I had a talk with some friends right after Baghdad fell and they all wanted to know "Why did you think we couldn't do this?" I told them that I never said that we couldn't do it and that they needed to wait a few months before they started crowing about this. To a man they have all told me that I (WE) was right from the beginning.
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gr8dane_daddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 08:18 AM
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8. I wanted to rip the head off and shit down the neck of...
a 22 yr old who voted for the numbskull in 2004. When I calmly (yes, I was) asked him why, he stated he wanted numbnut to clean up his mess! Damn, it took all the resolve I could muster to keep from yelling the dumb fuck down. What makes you think he thinks he has a mess, ya dumbass. I told him he shouldn't be voting if he was going to vote on gut instincts without looking at the facts. He was one of those "I didn't think he would screw up this bad" dumbasses.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 08:27 AM
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9. To be fair, did any of us think he would screw up *THIS* bad?
I mean, I thought he'd probably be worse than his idiot father, but...damn.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 08:28 AM
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10. They can't admit they were wrong. Dead wrong.
That means they would have to examine their entire
belief structures and they are not capable of such
self examination.

Weak egos and intellects.
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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:42 AM
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18. there is a difference between cant and wont though
then again the alliance of crooks, worshipers of ultimate evil, and fascists. probably cant get out of their malevolent nature long enough to actually think at all.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 02:35 PM
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29. Yes. Some can't do it. Some won't do it.
Depending on the moral and intellectual wiring.
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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:53 PM
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31. in my families case I figure it is cant
they are too busy kissing the boots of their lying, evil, tyrannical god to even notice the obvious signs that they are being led down the gilded path to tyranny.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 05:04 AM
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34. Denial is a powerful thing. Some are just not ready or able to break through it.
To see reality.

Reality scares them so it is easier to put their
heads in the sand. And build a fantasy world to their liking.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 02:40 PM
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30. That's exactly it.
I couldn't have said it better myself.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 08:30 AM
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11. I've Been Trying To Tell People About Him Since 1998, And You Are Dead Right
I have not gone back to people and said "I told you so" but it sure is tempting.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:23 AM
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13. I think we should congratulate ourselves....
For resisting the urge to have bumper stickers that say, in three-inch letters, I TOLD YOU SO.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 10:20 PM
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32. I have one that reads: 1. Stop Thinking 2. Stop Caring
3.Now You're a Republican, and to me this is a little more in your face than I told you so. I have relatives that I rarely talk to anymore because of their lack of civility when trying to discuss the deceit, etc. in the run-up to Iraq, the aftermath, and his crapping on the Constitution and The Bill of Rights. :hi:
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 08:36 AM
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12. I didn't (and don't) WANT to be "right."
It gives me no satisfatction that pretty much everything DU and the greater liberal community predicted back in 2000-3 has come true., At all. It just makes me sad.

To acknowledge it would be a band-aid on a brain tumor.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:26 AM
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14. I just can't seem to forget arguments with family and friends...
We'd "talk" about it and people were so shocked when I claimed that Bush was pulling a fast one. They'd look at me as though I was out of my mind. Then, my family got together and decided that they wouldn't discuss politics with me. I'm still waiting for one of them to say "I guess you weren't crazy, after all".
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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:44 AM
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21. I don't think it will happen until regular people start getting sent to
concentration camps. which of course will happen after all the ones that the cabal program us to hate are sent there first.
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:43 AM
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20. I agree
I take NO satisfaction whatsoever in this. It just angers me that people have been, are, and will be so fucking blind, because their blindness will be the ruination of this country for both the Right and the Left. There is nothing to celebrate in that.
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Hubert H. Hubert Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:37 AM
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15. If someone were to actually say that to me
this is probably how the conversation would go:


Asshat who voted for Chimpy in 2004: "I have to admit, you were right all along."

HHH: "Yeah, a lot of good that does the 3600+ dead US soldiers and countless dead Iraqis."

Asshat: "Hey, I'm trying to extend an olive branch here. I realize now how badly I screwed up."

HHH: "Too little, too late. You can take your olive branch and shove it as far up your ass as Bush's head is up Cheney's."

Asshat: "I don't have to take this crap from the likes of you."

HHH: "Fine. Kindly fuck off and die. Not necessarily in that order."




Bitter? Oh, a tad.
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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:46 AM
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23. I admit that after the part of you telling him to die
you should include a part about spending eternity in hell sucking hitlers dick with the rest of the nazis.
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:40 AM
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16. You'll never hear them say that
I have been constantly amazed at how much deeper the delusion has gotten since 2000. It's not that they won't admit that Bush has been an absolute debacle, it's that they CAN'T. It's pathological, and that is what is so scary. They are so convinced that history, God, and whatever else are on their side; that we are the misguided ones. That is why they will never admit they are wrong.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:42 AM
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19. No, I don't need them to admit it. I need them to act on it.
End this fucking shit now before America is no more.
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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:48 AM
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24. probably too late for that.
all we need now is a false flag terror attack and goodbye what is left of constitutional democracy, hello fourth reich.
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RedStateShame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:45 AM
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22. When John Kerry repeated one of his campaign mottos on "Countdown" last night...
...that being "wrong place, wrong war, wrong time," I thought about how true it was in the 2004 elections, which a lot of people chose to ignore for some inexplicable reason, and how truer it is now. Terrorism as a law enforcement issue rather than a military issue? Jeez, how the hell can anybody in their right mind argue against that now?! My advice to all recovering Bush-voters who are playing nice now is just to not vote this time around, as they've yet to grasp this whole democracy thing.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:53 AM
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25. I'd like to hear DEM LAWMAKERS say it - GORE was right. KERRY was right. Bush was ALWAYS wrong.
Edited on Fri Jul-20-07 09:55 AM by blm
But - - - they don't.

After 2000, we were told by many a Democratic strategist that Bush won because.....and get a long list starting with 'distanced himself from Clinton' even though the election was OBVIOUSLY STOLEN. Gore never lost it.

Democrats didn't ACT like Gore was a winner or even right. Republicans always circled their past nominees to keep them as valuable voices respected in the media. After 1992 defeat GOPs grew their mindset with "DON'T BLAME ME I VOTED FOR BUSH" bumperstickers and kept the pressure on with high profile degrading of all things Dem that was very effective throughout the 90s and allowed Bush2 his leg up in 1999.

And they maintain high respect for even their weakest nominees like Bob Dole, while Democrats kick ALL their nominees to the curb and reify the RW talking points against them to glorify themselves individually. And the media laps it up.

Democrats never acted after the 2004 election as if Kerry's 60 million votes were even remarkable when everyone expected Bush to win in a landslide after 9-11. Democrats never acted like Kerry was RIGHT was right about anything, even after conservative columnists like George Will publicly admitted Kerry was right on terrorism - nothing from other Democrats.

The strategists told Dem lawmakers to push VALUES language completely buying into the spin that Bush won because values voters won't vote for Democrats - completely ignoring the substantially INCREASED rampant election fraud in the 2002 and 2004 cycles.

So what they were saying by adopting the 'values' language was that Bush was right.

Just like when they adopted Bush's language and strategy on terrorism and Iraq policy and supported it, they were saying Bush is right and wouldn't budge to Kerry's position throughout 2004 of controlling terrorism as a law enforcement issue and start drawing military out of Iraq by June 2005 and bringing in UN and NATO to oversee its newly elected government.

That is the biggest difference in GOPs and Dems that ACTUALLY make the GOPs a stronger party after elections. They STICK. Dems stick KNIVES.
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 10:32 AM
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26. That would involve them using more than two brain cells
Ain't gonna happen.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 10:35 AM
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27. Don't hold your breath on that.
They don't get paid to admit they are wrong.
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 10:52 AM
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28. Nope, I welcome the fact that more people have become aware of the criminal WH
the issues are far to important to bother about the war party admitting they were wrong.

IMO it is far more important to remedy the situation and afterwards, when the dust has settled, apologies will be in order.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 05:06 AM
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35. Admitting error makes the Baby Jesus cry
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 05:54 AM
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36. They're cowards. All of them. NT.
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 06:00 AM
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37. Exactly, I went through hell
In some circles, I was a freakin pariah because I was going off on * and the re-(stolen)election. Now not one person has said, "Gee, you were so right, I should have listened"

It's like they figured out asshole is a danger to society all on their own. It's their personal epiphany and they never had a clue.

Not only that, they still adhere to their RW philosophy like that never had a hand in getting in the mess we are now.
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 06:19 AM
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38. Silly, Bush was FINE until THEY decided he was a dangerous moron.

We've been right by ACCIDENT.
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