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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 01:09 PM
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Executive Order: Blocking Property of Certain Persons Who Threaten Stabilization Efforts in Iraq
Bush will now seize your assets after he declares National Emergency. and you are listed to be "threatening" the economic and political stabilization efforts in Iraq. YOu will be removed and everything your own will be taken. No prior notice. No way to fight back and no-one is allowed to help you, will disappear either into the streets or to a camp of some sort.

Under this EO the dictatorial package is complete all that is needed is the catalyst. Bush will now be able to dictate away by Executive Order any citizen and thier assets without due process or prior notice. O

once you are rounded up all your stuff will be taken to fund the war. You will have no money and no way to defend yourself. And anyone who tries to help you...will have the same done to them.

Steps to a dictator state: First you seize power, test it, then grant yourself authority, test it again then eliminate dissent and opposition by bending the law. Declare the opposition in violation of nation security, Then you make the "body" disappear and the all signs that the person existed erased.

It is coming. Be afraid. Impeach Now.


http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/07/20070717-3.html

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, as amended (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.)(IEEPA), the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.)(NEA), and section 301 of title 3, United States Code,

I, GEORGE W. BUSH, President of the United States of America, find that, due to the unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States posed by acts of violence threatening the peace and stability of Iraq and undermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq and to provide humanitarian assistance to the Iraqi people, it is in the interests of the United States to take additional steps with respect to the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13303 of May 22, 2003, and expanded in Executive Order 13315 of August 28, 2003, and relied upon for additional steps taken in Executive Order 13350 of July 29, 2004, and Executive Order 13364 of November 29, 2004. I hereby order:

Section 1. (a) Except to the extent provided in section 203(b)(1), (3), and (4) of IEEPA (50 U.S.C. 1702(b)(1), (3), and (4)), or in regulations, orders, directives, or licenses that may be issued pursuant to this order, and notwithstanding any contract entered into or any license or permit granted prior to the date of this order, all property and interests in property of the following persons, that are in the United States, that hereafter come within the United States, or that are or hereafter come within the possession or control of United States persons, are blocked and may not be transferred, paid, exported,

withdrawn, or otherwise dealt in: any person determined by the Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Secretary of Defense,

(i) to have committed, or to pose a significant risk of committing, an act or acts of violence that have the purpose or effect of:

(A) threatening the peace or stability of Iraq or the Government of Iraq; or

(B) undermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq or to provide humanitarian assistance to the Iraqi people;

(ii) to have materially assisted, sponsored, or provided financial, material, logistical, or technical support for, or goods or services in support of, such an act or acts of violence or any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order; or

(iii) to be owned or controlled by, or to have acted or purported to act for or on behalf of, directly or indirectly, any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order.

(b) The prohibitions in subsection (a) of this section include, but are not limited to, (i) the making of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services by, to, or for the benefit of any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order, and (ii) the

receipt of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services from any such person.

Sec. 2. (a) Any transaction by a United States person or within the United States that evades or avoids, has the purpose

of evading or avoiding, or attempts to violate any of the prohibitions set forth in this order is prohibited.

(b) Any conspiracy formed to violate any of the prohibitions set forth in this order is prohibited.

Sec. 3. For purposes of this order:

(a) the term "person" means an individual or entity;

(b) the term "entity" means a partnership, association, trust, joint venture, corporation, group, subgroup, or other organization; and

(c) the term "United States person" means any United States citizen, permanent resident alien, entity organized under the laws of the United States or any jurisdiction within the United States (including foreign branches), or any person in the United States.

Sec. 4. I hereby determine that the making of donations of the type specified in section 203(b)(2) of IEEPA (50 U.S.C. 1702(b)(2)) by, to, or for the benefit of, any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order would seriously impair my ability to deal with the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13303 and expanded in Executive Order 13315, and I hereby prohibit such donations as provided by section 1 of this order.

Sec. 5. For those persons whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order who might have a constitutional presence in the United States, I find that, because of the ability to transfer funds or other assets
instantaneously, prior notice to such persons of measures to be taken pursuant to this order would render these measures ineffectual. I therefore determine that for these measures to be effective in addressing the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13303 and expanded in Executive Order 13315, there need be no prior notice of a listing or determination made pursuant to section 1(a) of this order.

Sec. 6. The Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Secretary of Defense, is hereby authorized to take such actions, including the promulgation of rules and regulations, and to employ all powers granted to the President by IEEPA as may be necessary to carry out the purposes of this order. The Secretary of the Treasury may redelegate any of these functions to other officers and agencies of the United States Government, consistent with applicable law. All agencies of the United States Government are hereby directed to take all appropriate measures within their authority to carry out the provisions of this order and, where appropriate, to advise the Secretary of the Treasury in a timely manner of the measures taken.

Sec. 7. Nothing in this order is intended to affect the continued effectiveness of any rules, regulations, orders, licenses, or other forms of administrative action issued, taken, or continued in effect heretofore or hereafter under 31 C.F.R. chapter V, except as expressly terminated, modified, or suspended by or pursuant to this order.

Sec. 8. This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right, benefit, or privilege, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, instrumentalities, or entities, its officers or employees, or any other person.

GEORGE W. BUSH

THE WHITE HOUSE,

July 17, 2007.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 01:13 PM
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1. Then, would it not be prudent for bush to seize his own assets?
Edited on Thu Jul-19-07 01:13 PM by BOSSHOG
Who is the greatest threat to the stabilization of Iraq on the planet? The incredibly large embarrassment to the party of integrity and honesty, that's who.
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 01:14 PM
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2. Who decides what constitutes "undermining efforts..."?
Is posting on DU and saying that we need to withdraw the troops now constitute "undermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq"?

What frightens me is how vaguely worded these directives are. They could be used in a wide-ranging set of circumstances.

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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 01:16 PM
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4. It can mean whatever they want it to mean. n/t
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 01:26 PM
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24. these fucktards setting off bombs every day in iraq are undermining the efforts
i don't think it is any great mystery what the problem is that is undermining the effort to preserve and rebuild iraq's infrastructure and government, it's fuckwits blowing things up constantly

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aikanae Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 09:32 PM
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27. to broad
I'm not comfortable with this at all. How many times have they called protesters 'undermining and aiding' terrorists. They have pulled protesters in, kept them and I could see how this would be applied very, very easily. Civil rights protected the protesters from being held indefinitely. I can recall hearing scary quotes about liberals and democrats. Their war on colleges began because most professors are democrats.

They already had the ability to quickly close bank accounts and seize computers etc. Right after 9/11 a number of middle eastern decent were snared in that net - then released when nothing was found. A few were charged with funding terrorism and in court proceedings it came out they had donated to some very un terrorist like charities - one was for getting medical supplies into Iraq, another was helping Palestine and Afghan women escape domestic violence. I was shocked because I almost gave to that one. It was a bona fide, no terrorist connection agency. Sends speakers to the U.S., celebrities, everything checked out with both of those - but now they wouldn't get their day in court?

That's insane. The excuse against the medical doctors was they had no business in Iraq. That's it. The end. The entire case. The supplies were going to hospitals. Not individuals.

There are several caravans with medical supplies that go to central america as well - and cuba. I always wanted to do that, but now?

No, there is a lot more to this than literally reading it. We already know how Gonzales interprets things.

i'm very uneasy. We may be to late to impeach.

I don't see Bush handing off all his centralized power to anyone like Hillary or Obama anyway. If anything, that could be a good argument to get GOP's involved in the impeachment - so Bush can't hand off that much power to a Dem. But I think putting impeachment back on the table would be against this executive order - I just wonder if Pelosi knew it.
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LuckyTheDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 05:00 PM
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28. EVEN THE FREEPERS have a problem with this!
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 01:16 PM
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3. This is how they will deal with anyone in dissension of the war
If you don't agree with the king and his war(s) you will be removed from the kingdom. Your property will become that of the kings
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 01:18 PM
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5. Is anyone else talking about this?
<pats mic> Is this thing on?!?!


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cutlassmama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 01:21 PM
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6. OMG! How can we, as a nation, allow this to happen? n/t
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Waya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 01:56 PM
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16. Easy......
......when Bush got apponted by the Supreme Courtin 2000 - We, the People, stood for it.
When Bush started his illegal war, based on lies - We, the People, sttod for it.
When he grabbed more and more power thereby shredding and butchering the Constitution - We, the People, stood for it.
When the elections of 2004 where so blatantly rigged that a blind man could see what was happeneing - We, the People, stood for it.
We, the people stood for a little - We, the People will stand for a lot. At least that's what this administration is figuring - and have they been wrong yet?
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 02:00 PM
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17. it's incremental
if you're paying attention, you will see this...
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Old Codger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 10:21 AM
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25. Incremental
It is like the old frog and hot water idea... If you throw a frog into boiling water he will jump out, but if you put him in pot of cold water ,then turn on the heat he will swim around happily til the water kills him.. This is the policy that is now and has been in use for a long time.
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 01:22 PM
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7. Does impeachment stop executive orders?
Or do they pass to the next president intact??
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 01:23 PM
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8. Tin foil hat on. Maybe this is why
this administration has been thumbing their noses at us for so long. Ignoring subpeonas, keeping everything secret. They seem to know no one will do anything to stop them. And when martial law begins we are really doomed. They are the terrorists.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 01:24 PM
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9. we need to call our Reps and Senators yes, we do and
Edited on Thu Jul-19-07 01:25 PM by alyce douglas
question them on this. Let's put it out there, has Keith reported on this yet?

Lord Pissypants does not his invasion to end, this could be for who Congress, us????
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 01:32 PM
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10. BTW - We are still under a National Emergency since 9/14/2001
Bush has expanded the scope of the Presidential powers via executive orders since.

What congress should do now is pass a joint resolution declaring the 911 National Emergency Over...otherwise Bush will be able to do as he pleases in terms of preserving his power. If congress tries to Impeach without removing the National Emergency they could be declared by the President part of a conspiracy to undermine the economic and politcal stability of Iraq.

From Sept. 14th:


President Orders Ready Reserves of Armed Forces to Active Duty Executive Order Ordering the Ready Reserve of the Armed Forces to Active Duty And Delegating Certain Authorities to the Secretary of Defense And the Secretary of Transportation

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.) and section 301 of title 3, United States Code, and in furtherance of the proclamation of September 14, 2001, Declaration of National Emergency by Reason of Certain Terrorist Attacks, which declared a national emergency by reason of the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center, New York, New York, and the Pentagon, and the continuing and immediate threat of further attacks on the United States, I hereby order as follows:
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 01:32 PM
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11. Thom Hartmann discussed this EO with Bruce Fein today
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 01:34 PM
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12. Sounds as though he is trying to amend the constitution through executive order.

Because, I think his intent is to quell all opposition to his policy in Iraq. Voicing opposition in public is tantamount, in this administration's eyes as giving aid and comfort to the enemy. I can easily envision this executive order being enacted among a certain few prominent dissenters, to keep everyone in line.

He's playing a very dangerous game with this particular order. If he chooses to enact it, he will have the peasants, with pitchforks marching on washington. That's when the revolution begins...
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 02:02 PM
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18. not to worry
the laser ray guns are ready and waiting for us.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 01:38 PM
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13. This is silliness on an unimaginable scale.
Do you really think a person clever enough to take over a country would publish their intentions on their own website?

Calling wolf will only cause us to not believe this accusation when it is essential to prepare against the real march of tyranny.

It is a mark of the time in which we live that this should gain so much traction, yet it does not make it true. We do have a President audaciously abusing power, and that's the reason we are so apt to believe this nonsense, we need to change that through impeachment.

There are far more concerning things hiding out there, we should devote ourselves to those and leave this silliness behind.
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 01:49 PM
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14. Executive Orders are not "silly"....
There they are in plain legible English.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 01:53 PM
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15. Yes, it says someone who funnels money to Iraq will have their stuff taken...
Edited on Thu Jul-19-07 01:54 PM by originalpckelly
are you planning on funneling money to Iraq? Anyone else around here? Do you really think they're going to be able to arrest the 60% of America that doesn't agree with the Iraq war? Do you really think they're going to be able to arrest 200 million people?

I don't think so, and I think what you're doing is scaring people who are already tense because of that fuck head in the White House.

I don't think executive orders are even constitutional, but I'd like to point out that this one is not as scary as people believe it to be.

Fear is the real enemy, and you empower Bush by making us fear him. He can eat my grits for all I care.
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 02:32 PM
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19. I agree
too much fuss being made on this one.
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 02:41 PM
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20. You know slashdot has a lot more
Insightful analysis of this EO.

http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/07/19/1551242


The key being the seizure of property without due process.

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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 02:50 PM
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21. That is NOT what it says....stop being silly
It says that if anyone is determined to threatening the economic or political stability of Iraq can have assets seized and anyone that tries to provide aid to a person whose assets are seized will get their assets seized.

They can do this (Secretary if Treasury and State) with no recourse. Any group that tries to aid individuals whose assets have been siezed are subject to this EO as well.

The 5th amendment is toasted by this EO.

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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 03:24 PM
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22. So for example
Edited on Thu Jul-19-07 03:25 PM by endarkenment
An antiwar demonstration turns violent either through a deliberate police riot, misguided yutes, or a combination of both (think Chicago 1968), and the fucking beligerant idiot in the white house deciderates that this is threatening the political stability of Iraq and confiscates all the assets of United For Peace and Justice, Move On, Iraq Veteran Against the War, and 50 other groups who organized the demonstration. No problem? Not covered by this EO? If not why not?

On edit: meant for the poster above you. Sorry.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 01:24 PM
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23. the wording is somewhat vague but idon't think can be used to go after people saying "iraq war bad"
to me it looks as if the purpose of the law is to go after people who are sending $$$ to "charity" groups that are really fronts for these groups building and setting off the constant suicide and other type bombs that are destroying iraq's infrastructure and any hope of rebuilding it

as far as i'm concerned, if you fund a terrorist attack, even if you weren't physically present yourself, you are just as guilty as the people you paid to carry it out

my only objection is that i think the accounts of terrorists should have been frozen a fuck of a long time ago, and it amazes me that * can just now get around to getting off his hind legs and calling for such accounts to be frozen -- wasn't this supposed to be standard at least since the 911 attacks -- all i can figure is that osama bin laden or some other bush buddy has now safely put all his assets where usa gov't can't get to them, hence it is now safe for * to put forward an appearance of "doing something" about the terror acts going on every single day in iraq

let's see how many accounts of terrorists actually get frozen and how large the "take" is at the end of the day, i think this is a paper tiger frankly

let's see it get enforced against a few terrorist, forfeiture crap like this is enforced against drug dealers quite often and i don't see why terrorists should get the better deal
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Old Codger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 11:36 AM
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26. how did this happen
I guess I am a little out of touch. When exactly did proclamations by the president become LAWS??????As I read the constitution of the united states section 8 seems to lay out the powers of congress pretty explicitly giving them the power to make laws, not the president.Paying special attention to clause 18

Clause 1: The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

Clause 2: To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

Clause 3: To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

Clause 4: To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

Clause 5: To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

Clause 6: To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

Clause 7: To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

Clause 8: To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

Clause 9: To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

Clause 10: To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

Clause 11: To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

Clause 12: To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

Clause 13: To provide and maintain a Navy;

Clause 14: To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

Clause 15: To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

Clause 16: To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

Clause 17: To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, byCession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;--And

Clause 18: To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.
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