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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 05:07 PM
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I am willing to give the Democratic leadership the benefit of the doubt
Lets just call it a gut feeling that I have that things are going to work out better than we thought they could even in our wildest dreams.

Don
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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 05:09 PM
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1. I give them until September
Anything after that will be a little too late. I do believe that by September they will, at the very least, not stand down to any Bush veto regarding troop pullout of Iraq, and at the very most, put impeachment on the table.
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rubberducky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 05:10 PM
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2. I, sincerely, hope that you are right..
oops!! I have that gut feeling again! Gotta run........
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 05:10 PM
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3. How many more years?
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 05:38 PM
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8. Years? MORE years?
Edited on Sat Jul-14-07 05:39 PM by NNN0LHI
Lets see, the Dems have had a slight majority in Congress for about 6 months now. Another six months would sound pretty reasonable to me.

Don
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 07:15 PM
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18. I think the reference is to the way the party has behaved the entire Bush presidency
We keep hearing that the Democrats can't achieve anything in the Senate because they don't have a 60 seat filibuster-proof majority, but when the Republicans held the Senate with comparable numbers, they never seemed to get held up by the Democrats.
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phildo Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 05:15 PM
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4. Great. Let's think warm fuzzy thoughts while friends and family are blown away in Iraq.
Edited on Sat Jul-14-07 05:16 PM by phildo
That is some real "Leadership" you have, there,

Doing a hell of a job, Brownie.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 05:59 PM
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12. Ahem--"you" have? Curious... nt
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 06:22 PM
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14. Curious indeed. nt
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phildo Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 06:32 PM
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15. Yeah, am prior service. Army, Enlisted and O-type.
So what's that to you? Being a - Ahem - smart (read dumb) ass?

don't matter to me blondie. You gotta be you, huh?

Folks from college, ROTC, service schools, my old line unit, folks I personally trained, and the real world, too. A nephew pulled up from IRR. Some on second tours. geezzz, even know guys on three.

Do you understand that is FUed?

Probably why I am more than a little impatient with your "leadership."

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phildo Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 07:08 PM
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17. So did curiosity kill you cats?
Ahem?

Yeah, that was what I thought.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 05:16 PM
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5. all the legal stuff takes time to do RIGHT, you cant mess up .. it takes time to file stuff and get
things done.. if you subpoena someone you have to give them time to get lawyers and prepare.. etc etc they can ask for so many extensions etc.. it takes time, you just cant go get a rope, pitchforks and torches anymore.

people need to quit bitching.. Speaker Paloci cant file charges of impeachment herself or it will look like she is trying to kangaroo court them out of the white house and overthrow the government

someone else has to take the initiative.. complain about them instead
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 05:25 PM
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6. Doesn't say much
for our nations ability to respond to a problem does it?

If thats the best we can do with the system we have why don't we try something better?

"When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation."

A bit extreme, but I hear it was tried once before, with varying degrees of success.
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phildo Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 05:28 PM
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7. There is already a bill with 15 sponsors on it.
Could have started this in January.

Close on the target, or change the leader.

Paralysis by analysis is a fatal flaw.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 05:41 PM
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9. Really.
Last week you said it was better that Bush won in 2000 because Lieberman was so bad. I can find the thread for you if you like.

Now it's gut feelings and wild dreams.

Hm.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 05:44 PM
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10. In my wildest dreams,
Dennis Kucinich is president, Barbara Boxer is VP, Al Sharpton is the WH press secretary, there are no republicans left on the planet, and the dlc has no members in elected office.

If things are going to work out better than that, I want your "gut" gold-plated, lol.

Seriously, I understand the need, the desire, to trust "leadership." I've been there. I'm there no longer. I admit it; I have trust issues. I'll only trust for so long without some concrete evidence that the trusted is worthy of the trust.

Still, I would be overjoyed to be proved wrong. So please...stand by your convictions, and your golden gut!

:hi:
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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 05:45 PM
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11. I am not. they have used up multiple helpings of that benefit as far as I am concerned.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 06:19 PM
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13. I agree NOW -- I do not want Cheney impeached and Bush have a
major hand in picking the Repug 2008 Presidential runner.

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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 06:39 PM
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16. I'm with you Don.
:hi:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 07:18 PM
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19. They're working behind the scenes. n/t
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