Is it time for gays to establish a GLBT religion?

[mondo joe]

Fundamentalists have used - and some would say abused - freedom of religion to protect their right to do, well, almost anything.

I've long thought gays should establish a religion to use the same protections. Coming out and living out, for example, should be the most important sacrament. Hence firing anyone for being gay is in conflict with that person's freedom of religion.

Educating others about being gay should be the Great Commission - so don't dare say it can't be discussed in school.

Fundies keep insisting being gay is a choice, so it's not protected. But religion is an unquestionable choice that IS protected - so why not use it?

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

1. Errr...

I'll stick with being a lapsed Catholic.

[KittyWampus]

2. Actually, I think you've struck upon a very important point. In similar veind

I think vegetarians and organic food consumers should form a religion and have their own certifiable seal for food... like Kosher ... that has nothing to do with federal regulations. Make it a religious choice to eat food that is grown organically and processed in accordance with certain ethics.

I thnk you are being facetious, but why NOT form a religion that preaches tolerance? Or espouse such a world view? Or codify such an ethic?

It's stand in relief to the hypocritical loudmouth minority that gives Christianity a bad name.

maybe everyone should 'form' their own religion and write their own personal consititution as well.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

5. There are already religions that preach tolerance.

Plenty of Christian denominations preach tolerance, Unitarians, etc.

[mondo joe]

7. But they don't get to leverage being out as a protected act via freedom of reliigion.

:-)

[KittyWampus]

10. I get your point and then think of how powerful to have rituals with such things

as "coming out".

Seriously.

Human psychology thrives on the use of ritual.

[HuffleClaw]

3. no

[Nikki Stone1]

4. They already have: Lesbians are the founders of Dianic Wicca

I think gay males are welcome as well as are straight female sympathizers.

[ronnykmarshall]

6. Judyism.

[mondo joe]

8. Ha! I thought when I clicked

there'd be a pic of THIS Judy:

[Solly Mack]

9. the last fucking thing people-kind needs is another fucking religion

just saying...

[mondo joe]

12. Hey, maybe it's time to do it right.

Just saying.

[Solly Mack]

15. K...but I wanna be a prophet for profit

[Fridays Child]

11. I like the idea of using already-established constitutional protections...

...but organized religion is probably the most oppressive and destructive device ever contrived by the mind of man. How would you propose identifying and avoiding the pitfalls?

[mondo joe]

13. The devil is in the details. But if we start with gays as the Chosen People

we begin to address our own rights, which are long overdue.

[marmar]

14. When I visited a friend in San Fran in November, we attended a service at Glide Baptist Church..

It was a traditional African-American Baptist Church service, with a great choir and music, but the congregation was anything but traditional: U.N. multiracial and multicultural - black, white, Latino, Asian, Indian etc etc, lots of gay and lesbian couples, homeless people, transvestites - and all clearly very much at home. I grew up Lutheran and have attended many religious services of various kinds in my lifetime, but nothing like that one.
It was very hopeful and heartening. I don't claim a particular faith or sect anymore but I do believe in God, and that to me is what a place of worship should be. Not the segregated, intolerance-spouting entities that so much organized religion has become today.

[Dhalgren]

16. Wouldn't it be something if the Deity possessed neither a penis nor

a vagina? And if that Deity didn't give a fuck whether you had a penis or a vagina? If the Deity didn't care what kind of apparatus you used to urinate through and to have sex with, then the Deity wouldn't care whether you preferred a penis or vagina to play with. I mean, what if there were a Deity who didn't have even the slightest interest in, concerns about, your reproductive organs or how you used them? That would be nice indeed....

[mondo joe]

17. Why just one deity? IMO, the monotheistic religions are the ones that get into

the greatest conflicts with others.

Why not a bunch of deities?

[Dhalgren]

18. Hey, out of the whole bunch, if only one didn't give a fuck about sex

I'd be happy. :hi: