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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 10:15 AM
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Arguing semantics with a Freeper who claims Coulter never said Edwards was a "faggot"
Sure, she technically did not say, "John Edwards is a faggot" like she said Al Gore was a "total fag" but, how else can you interpret this quote: "Oh, and I was going to have a few comments on the other Democratic presidential candidate, John Edwards. But it turns out that you have to go into rehab if you use the word "faggot," so I'm -- so I'm kind of at an impasse, can't really talk about Edwards," as anything other than her saying that she thinks Edwards is a faggot?

This is the blog: http://blogs.courant.com/colin_mcenroe_to_wit/2007/06/wfie-of-candida.html#comments

The freeper is now saying that she only insinuated Edwards is a "faggot"

I'm thinking of responding, "Hey, I heard somebody asking if your mom was a whore?"
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lurky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 10:51 AM
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1. maybe:
"I was going to say something about your mom, but the expression 'cum receptacle' might be offensive." He should have no problem with that, since you didn't actually call his mom anything. :evilgrin:
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Rude Horner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 11:02 AM
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3. Wow
Welcome to DU, Lurky :hi: You're off to a good start. :evilgrin:
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lurky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 11:09 AM
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6. Thanks!
n/t
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 10:52 AM
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2. Try this:
"It would be an insult to all whores if I called your Mom one, so I really can't talk about her."

What would he think you were saying? What is the implication? Implying that someone is a faggot is pretty much the same as calling one that directly. That is the power of language. There is more than one way to do it.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 11:36 AM
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10. BINGO! The perfect response to that freeper. n/t
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 11:04 AM
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4. Tell him about KKKarl's push polls
in SC in 2000.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 11:08 AM
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5. It's clear she meant he was a f****t, it was not clear what meaning she meant.
I don't think it really matters, she shouldn't be saying that word and then still be able to make it on TV.

On the other hand, this recent controversy about her supposedly saying he should be killed in a terrorist attack is wrong, she was talking about something bill Maher said, and I believe it was a smart ass remark but she didn't say she wished he'd been killed in a terrorist attack.

I think we only need to stick to the truth, because in Ms. Coulter's case, it's fairly clear that's bad enough. The other f-word remark is out of line and should be the cause for her never appearing on TV ever again.
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kevinmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 11:21 AM
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7. This is from Media Matters ........
Coulter defended CPAC comment about Edwards: "I wasn't saying it on TV"

During an interview on the June 27 edition of CNN Headline News' Glenn Beck, right-wing pundit Ann Coulter defended a controversial remark she made about Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards during the 2007 Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) by claiming, "I wasn't saying it on TV. I was saying it at a right-wing political convention with 7,000 college Republicans.

I didn't put it on TV." In fact, Coulter's March 2 CPAC speech -- during which she said she couldn't "really talk about" Edwards because "you have to go into rehab if you use the word 'faggot' " -- aired on C-SPAN, like many of the other speeches at the conference. Moreover, Coulter has previously used the epithet "on TV." Indeed, during the July 27, 2006, edition of MSNBC's Hardball, she referred to former Vice President Al Gore as a "total fag." Read more

http://mediamatters.org/items/dailyemail/200706280009?src=other
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 11:22 AM
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8. Thanks for the response
Good stuff there.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 11:24 AM
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9. It's so dumb to see someone say that.
And it's ok to say completely outrageous and bigoted things as long as they aren't on TV? Someone should be held accountable?
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 12:05 PM
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11. I don't mind that she infered that Edwards is gay
what got to me was the word faggot. That word was MEANT to inflame, MEANT to insult, not only Edwards but any gay person.

zalinda
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 12:07 PM
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12. I don't have any suggestions, but isn't it just like these types to not be able to read between the
lines?
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 12:10 PM
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13. There's no point. But note that you can *say that X* without saying *the words X*.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 12:11 PM
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14. Tell him "I'd say something about your being a f****t, but I would go into rehab"
etc. etc.

Put the focus right back in his face.
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