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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 05:33 PM
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Sometimes I think I am crazy .
I wonder at times when I'm on this or other web sites or tuned into a liberal radio show if I am one of the ones that is crazy .

I look at other people going on as usual , planning their future or buying that new car none are talking about wars or bush and cheney . Many even skipped past Katrina when it happened . I feel like I am one of few who are caught up somehow in a surreal state of mind .

If I were to watch bush shaking hands with Pelosi as I did but I were not into politics I would probably think all was just fine and dandy with that picture .

Just looking around where I live I do feel all alone , all tensed up just waiting for the next blast of bad news .

At times this reminds me of the UFO sightings .
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 05:35 PM
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1. It is called conscience and awareness -- could be a heightened sense of
responsibility and moral maturity. It's a good thing to have. :hi:
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Cabcere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 05:38 PM
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2. You're not the only one
:hug: I feel that way too sometimes, and I think, to some extent, it happens to everybody. Maybe not right now, and maybe not about the issues you mention, but when something happens in your personal life - like a family member dying or becoming very ill, or getting a divorce, or anything else stressful - it feels like the whole world just doesn't give a damn. It feels like people should stop and pay attention, but they just go on with their lives. It's a weird feeling and not very fun at all, but in some ways I feel like it makes us more human, more acutely aware of...life, I guess? :shrug: I'm not very good with words, but my point is that you are not alone. :grouphug:
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FormerOstrich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 05:42 PM
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3. I have the exact same emotions and thoughts...
I sometimes wonder if I'm overreacting. It surreal.

Even now that others are starting to see * more clearly it's not like they understand the magnitude. Then I think maybe I'm the one that doesn't understand.

Maybe it's better to be aware but I can tell you I was a much happier person with my head in the sand. Right or wrong I can never be that person again......

which is precisely why I visit DU every single day.
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 05:54 PM
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6. I was not paying alot of attention until 2000
I too was alot happier before 2000 , I could go out and do what I needed to do and go on .

Now that so much as happened I find this worry and concern takes up much of my day .
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 06:56 PM
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13. You were also not being inundated with
a pervasive fear factor perpetrated by this admin and it's corporate news lackeys.
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 05:44 PM
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4. ok...
lots of us are on the left side of left here. What you notice though are people who don't pay attention to politics. Our turnout of total voters in this country is a joke to many other countries. That is the proof there. More and more people are tuning into this "talk" because more people are being affected by it, and they are talking about it..so it draws more people in. The more shit that hits more people at home, the more people get interested. Everyone was interested on Sept. 11th. Then it went back to business as usual for many folks, but many more started tuning in then. A big rise in attention. Just think about what Bush Admin. has messed up. Everything from our air to health care to insurance schemes to racial (IMO) non action with Katrina to WAR.

A LOT more people are tuning in. You see those who aren't. My entire family doesn't. If I hung around them, EVERYTHING is great... as if NOTHING is going on that is upsetting. It's quite baffling.

It is in NO WAY, that it is you. You are aware of your surroundings and have a healthy quest for knowledge in its cause and effect. These people are in a bubble. They like it there. Until someone pops it.
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 05:59 PM
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7.  If I bring up any of this to friends or family
They tell me lighten up , just deal with your own life , there is nothing you can do about this and most of this is over blown talk .

Just watch tv or read a good fiction book . Man I can hardly keep my attention on a book and can't watch the TV anymore .

There bubble is not bursting fast enough , there are far to many people who are not affected directly in their lives .
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 06:12 PM
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11. I agree it is amazing. But, this is precisely what happened in
pre- war Germany before Hitler rose to the height of his power.

I have noticed a fairly significant change in that many prior * supporters are talking about what has happened to our country as being 'pretty frightening'.

I've had people that were once staunch supporters complain to me about the 'militant' ways of this admin. And I've noticed that there is much more talk of outsourcing as more and more are 'training their replacements in India'.
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spacelady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 12:53 AM
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15. OMG, blues90, your last two posts sum it up very nicely,
in terms of my (our) experience. I was perking along with my career & got married in 1991 & husband had good environmental engineering jobs & Al Gore was going to be president in 2000. The WEEK that Chimp was installed, my husband was downsized, opportunities went south, we have never fully recovered, but ok in spite of it. But the thing that drives us (me mostly) crazy are those older boomers who have the full pensions & own their homes outright because they enjoyed 15% interest on their savings back in the day telling me to lighten up and get over it because there is nothing we can do about the state of the country.
These are the people driving the war, the media, the government, the policies & even if they are 85 years old they are going to keep clutching the power in their cold, mean hands. I am not talking about people who are older & care about our world, I am talking about the old farts who CONTROL it & they like it the way it is because THEY GOT THEIRS!!
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 05:51 PM
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5. It just means
your one of the saner ones, more awake,

But take heart , I am actually seeing alot of republicans dissing Bush these days,

Not the Bush gives a flying fuck what anybody else thinks,

But it's a hopeful sign.......

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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 06:06 PM
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8. I just posted this reply on another thread,
but it responds to your post also.

'Exactly what I feel a lot of the time, especially since I now live mainly in isolation. When I do talk to someone from outside, mainly my sister, I have to watch what I say and choose my words carefully. These days there is nothing like communications to make you feel alone.

But in fairness to others, I sometimes think that many are either living in denial (It's easier that way to keep their sanity) or they are afraid to speak openly now (afraid of who might be listening and what would happen if the wrong people knew how they felt). These are strange times.'

Personally, my health makes me accept things now more than I usually would, because my heart just can't withstand the strain of the rage I would be expressing normally at those who run this country. Survival is the name of the game, and if going on as usual is the only way we have of doing that, then sometimes that is what we have to do. But "planning for their future and buying a NEW car" may also be an sign of pure selfishness, nothing really matters unless it matters to them/affects them personally.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 06:08 PM
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9. Some thoughts....
Edited on Sat Feb-03-07 06:09 PM by TwoSparkles
As you said, it's painful and lonely to "plug in" and see the reality for what it is. I sometimes
feel cursed as well, because I see things that others don't see--or find implausible.

For example, the video of the "camps" that our government is building. When you attempt to talk with
friends or relatives about this, they simply cannot (or will not) accept that our government is
building detainment camps that might eventually house US citizens who do not comply with the government.

To have your eyes wide opened about this administration--is daunting and depressing. It's much more
comfy in a cloud of denial. That's why many people "refuse" to see. It's too much for them. I think
all of this materialism, cocooning in our houses and big-screen televisions--is about self-soothing and
protecting oneself--on an unconscious level. People can feel that there's trouble brewing and they're
hunkering down in response.

On a brighter note--there are probably many enlightened and concerned people that you run across every day. You
just don't know it. I'm a stay-at-home mom from the 'burbs who drives her kids to soccer and belongs to a
Bible study. I highly doubt that you would meet me and immediately flag me as a liberal or as someone who
is overly concerned about Junior. I very much am, though.

Furthermore, denial is much more comfy--but it's not authentic. Facing reality and experiencing discomfort
and pain--are courageous. It is only in those states that one can affect change. I always think of Rosa Parks.
She could have stayed in her comfort zone and denied the prejudice that surrounded her. She could have kept
her mouth shut. However, she stepped out of her comfort zone and was willing to take on the discomfort--and
in the end--she changed the world and we all know her name.

Be proud of yourself for living an authentic life. Although it hurts sometimes--it's real and it's honest.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 03:07 AM
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17. Thank you for those words TwoSparkles
My thoughts as well -- however, it is increasingly important to hear confirmation of my rationalization for the oft-times painful emotions elicited during this troubling time. :hug:
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itsmesgd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 06:11 PM
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10. It's the curse of the enlightened..
It's the flip side of "ignorance is bliss".
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 06:55 PM
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12. I feel like I am in a parallel universe too. Surreal.
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FormerOstrich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 12:29 AM
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14. Blues90,
Thank you for posting your thoughts. Your timing was perfect. Even though I have felt this way since 2000, sometimes it is more daunting than other times.

I appreciated every ones comments. TwoSparkles, I particularly appreciated your insight. Thanks!!

:grouphug:
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 02:58 AM
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16. just remember ostriches and sand
He who buries his head in the sand will someday get his butt kicked.

(think visual image of head down in sand, butt up in air w/large target painted on it)
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 05:36 AM
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18. Me too.
If you and I are still sane enough to post on DU, there's hope.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 06:02 AM
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19. Crazy??? Some people think I'm crazy...
...but I'm not crazy.

I just fooled them,
just like I fool everybody.
Do you hear me?
Everybody!

:crazy:

(In times like these, if you don't wonder such things, you haven't been paying attention.)

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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 06:51 AM
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20. It's a proper response
to a crazy situation.
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 07:18 AM
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21. Collapse and its Discontents
http://carolynbaker.org/archives/collapse-and-its-discontents-a-carolyn-bakerorg-exclusive-by-dmitry-orlov

A dispassionate and ironic approach is all well and good. However, my very own mother accuses me of unsympathetic sang froid in understating the horrific suffering endured by the Russian people when I describe how much better-prepared for economic collapse they were than the United States currently is. So, for the record, I am talking about a die-off, shattered lives, a missing generation of children, and much that is precious and irreplaceable burned or buried under a tide of violence and filth. I also know that endlessly recounting tales of horror and misery is the surest way to lose one's audience, as my mother would no doubt be willing to demonstrate. Others have accused me of Schadenfreude: of not being sufficiently dispassionate, but of greeting the troubles and the signs of the coming collapse with glee. This is an ad hominem argument, boiling down to "you say such things because you are the sort of person who enjoys saying such things." Again for the record, I do not feel gleeful, see above as to why. But, to be truthful, I am not a big fan of the American lifestyle. I prefer to stay out of the suburbs, I rarely drive, and I do my best to avoid flying. I don't feel that the prospect of it all eventually going away is a bad thing. In fact, I am very much looking forward to all the fresh air, although once pollution-induced global dimming goes away, global warming will proceed at a redoubled rate, and we will be forced to seek higher ground further north sooner rather than later - a prospect that does not fill me with glee either.

I suppose that if I were the sort of person who derives a deep feeling of contentment from pursuing the suburban lifestyle, extreme car dependence, shopping at malls and big box stores, jetting around, and daydreaming about full spectrum dominance, I would not be talking about collapse, because I wouldn't have the foggiest notion of such things. This lifestyle seems like sheer misery to me, but I recognize that tastes do differ. Moreover, it must be something of a blessed state, not knowing anything about resource depletion or global warming or collapse, or not caring to know. "Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we all die," says the preacher, and who am I to disagree? When people do find out about these things, they sometimes go through a bout of acute psychological distress, and only eventually settle down to some internal compromise. I feel almost guilty when I bring someone out of this blessed state, because it feels wrong to be breeding discontent among an otherwise pacified and well-controlled populace. They are like children when they first find out about death, and before they are consoled with stories of angels and heaven, or, in this case, hydrogen fuel cells, ethanol, biodiesel, wind farms, hybrid vehicles, or whatever other eco-props happen to be on hand. Still, they often end up with a nagging worry that not enough is being done.

Such consolations are not as convincing as we would hope, and the nagging worry starts some of us on the road to questioning everything: the living arrangement, the job, the life. Some people go as far as questioning the value of technological civilization, and wondering if it is on a path to planetary-scale self-destruction. They can then become extremely tiresome and tedious company, and breed discontent in everyone they come into contact with, talking incessantly about melting ice caps, drowning polar bears, Texas-sized fields of floating plastic debris in the Pacific Ocean, dead sea birds, fish going extinct, dying coral reefs, and so forth. "Enough!" you might say to them. "If the challenge is to avert planetary self-destruction, then let's all get on the same page: formulate a project plan, define the next steps, and start executing." Then you realize that the person you are talking to is serious, and the situation becomes awkward.
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