Shit, here we go again...

[PCIntern]

OK. So the boyfriend's been charged with 2 counts of murder. But...why wait for a trial? The usual suspects are now on the cable networks speaking as though he's convicted AND incredibly, the lady 'expert' on MSNBC was just stating what went thru his head! As if he had channeled her and she was speaking in 'killer tongues'. And then...she made a diagnosis of his psychopathology. Without interviewing him.
Maybe he did it, maybe he didn't. We went thru this with Scott Peterson (guilty) and with the Duke students (not guilty). They should just run the tapes from then. Why go to all the trouble of re-interviewing these 'experts'? Let's give him a trial and then hang him.

Of course, the brilliant hostess, Alex Witless, then 'cleared' everyone by saying that of course he was presumed innocent. Shit, I almost forgot.

Sorry about the scatologic aspect, but I feel like the guy who was recorded on the Naudet video watching the first plane hit the WTC.

On edit: I'm referring to the missing pregnant mom. Sorry. I got blasted last week for not spelling out EXACTLY which story I was referring to and got blasted by the holier-than-thou contignent of obsessive DUers - that I was total asshole of course, even though it was obvious to anyone who had opened his or her eyes in the last few days that I was referring to the second biggest story of the day.

[Breeze54]

1. What are you talking about?

:shrug:

[PCIntern]

2. See edit...

sorry.

:hi:

[Breeze54]

13. Gee..... thanks.

NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"On edit: I'm referring to the missing pregnant mom. Sorry. I got blasted last week for not spelling out EXACTLY which story I was referring to and got blasted by the holier-than-thou contignent of obsessive DUers - that I was total asshole of course, even though it was obvious to anyone who had opened his or her eyes in the last few days that I was referring to the second biggest story of the day."

[jilln]

15. You go!

Because if you don't know, because maybe you were working or traveling or whatever, it's a HUGE pain in the ass for someone to add a few words at the beginning. We should all be glued here 24/7 and if you're not, you deserve whatever scorn you get as the holier-than-thou jerk you are. How DARE you not know something and ASK about it!!!

[PCIntern]

19. Read post below..

Have a real nice day.

:hi:

[PCIntern]

18. I wasn't being discourteous to you...

I didn't say you blasted me...I said that LAST WEEK, people came after me viciously. I never accused you of that and I said that I was sorry.

Sorry again.

[Breeze54]

23. Rule of Thumb on ANY messageboard....

Provide topic and links!

You have to admit that adding your edit, in reply to my comment,

was sort of...um... Well, anyway. No worries. ;)

[PCIntern]

24. Yes, thank you,

I'll remember that for future reference.

[PCIntern]

26. Dear Breeze54

Don't you have a whole topic posted with you as the OP about murders of pregnant women? Why did you ask me what my post was about when obviously, this whole subject is on your mind and you certainly knew the case to which I was referring?

Don't bother to answer...I get it.

Love,

PCIntern

[treestar]

3. I'm with you!

Then if the defendant is acquitted, we get to put up with all the brainwashed audience going on about the "failure" of the system because the jury did not rubber stamp the media's instant verdict.

:mad:

[Captain Hilts]

4. Unfortunately, there is a statisical basis for the fiance as lead suspect.

The press should now let it go and not hang anyone, but there is a basis in fact to point the finger at the fiance.

And the expert you mention might be a 'lady' but might not be. She is most definitely a 'woman'.

[PCIntern]

6. OF course I'm aware of that Mookie...

and I appreciate your amplifications.

BTW, where's your namesake these days?

[spanone]

5. This is the kind of shit a Nancy Grace lives for. America calls it entertainment.

[Mika]

14. Yep. Like Death Race 2000

[Pyrzqxgl]

33. I just turn off the TV and listen to music or read a book when this kind of story starts to dominate

I just don't care enough to watch these moronic talking heads try to do a job that needs to be done by a judge & jury.
All they manage to do is make us even more suspicious of the justice system. It seems Washington is doing enough in
that respect. We don't need help from the MSM & I for one am not going to put up with it.

[rasputin1952]

7. Wait until Nancy Grace chimes in tomorrow...

I'd be surprised if a trial would even take place if she had her way.

24/7 for the next 10 days...nukes could go off in the ME, and it would not interfere w/the ejaculatory MSM...how pathetic we have become...:(

[11 Bravo]

22. Nancy and her flaring nostrils of death already have the guy tried and convicted.

[rasputin1952]

27. Now that he's actually been arrested...I figure she'll switch from

diesel drive jawboning to high octane jet fuel.

She already bought the rope, tied the knot and built a scaffold...she is a beast...

[PCIntern]

28. If there is a God in Heaven...

I would love to see her charged with even a misdemeanor, and have all the talking heads figuratively lock her up and throw away the key prior to the execution of justice.

[RB TexLa]

8. A man charged with killing a woman while pregnant. I'll bet the woman with the horrible southern

accent on CNN is on her way to try to execute him herself.



If I had to put money on it, I'd bet on him but he gets every constitutional protection the US and the state of Ohio provide.

[n2doc]

9. We will never learn

How many, many times does it have to happen that a supposedly "guilty" person ends up being innocent? We just had the Duke case, we had the Karr-Jon Benet Ramsey case last year, it goes on and on.

Of course, this is all anyone will see on the news for weeks. Nothing, of course, on Crashcart's usurpation of power. Nothing much on the continual slaughter in Iraq and elsewhere. One of the many reasons I gave up tv a long time ago.

[Morgana LaFey]

32. It goes on and on?

Hmmm. Most of the time the person arrested (that is, thought to be GUILTY) actually is:


Intimate partner violence is primarily a crime against women. In 2001, women accounted for 85 percent of the victims of intimate partner violence (588,490 total) and men accounted for approximately 15 percent of the victims (103,220 total).

While women are less likely than men to be victims of violent crimes overall, women are five to eight times more likely than men to be victimized by an intimate partner.
http://www.endabuse.org/resources/facts


Heaven forbid that any newscasters, esp. women, go with the statistics on this.


I knew O.J. was guilty of killing his wife as soon as I learned (a few days after the infamous low-speed chase) that he was a spouse abuser. If you men don't like being targeted as the perpetrators of violent crimes against women, stop BEING perps of violent crimes against women.

[n2doc]

35. Ahh. So Man= Guilty. How Progressive.

The point I was trying to make wasn't that he was innocent. The point was that we needed to let the courts decide. And in the mean time keep the heck out of the process.

[fishnfla]

10. Well if it turns out he confessed and lead them to the body

there shouldn't be too much to talk about then, should there?

[coco77]

34. That won't stop them..

they will try every angle, and as they find out more of the details they will begin trying the case on every hour on the hour.

[alarimer]

11. The odds are that he did it

He did confess, after all. And statistically we are much more likely to be killed by someone we know than by a total stranger, which is why spouses and boyfriends are the first suspects usually.

In any case this guy is a scumbag of the highest order. A MARRIED guy with a girlfriend by whom he had two children. Utter scum.

I am opposed to the death penalty by if anyone deserves it, this guy does. But, as an ex-cop, he should have lots of fun in prison.

[PCIntern]

12. No question...

BUT the piling on by flailing experts and quasi-legal folk is just revolting. These issues, once she was found, are really just for the unfortunate families and friends IMO and need to move beneath the national radar. Grotesque stuff.

As I said, we'll give him a fair trial and THEN we'll hang him, so to speak.

[Captain Hilts]

17. Yes, it should not be in the press. The Duke 'facts' NEVER added up...

yet friends of mine were ready to hang those kids.

[PCIntern]

20. I had that in my office with the

Duke kids and the Central Park jogger defendants.

Both sets were not found 'not guilty', they were EXONERATED.

Amazing the number of people in the LW community who wish to deny basic rights when the crime offends their personal sensibilities.

[treestar]

25. Odds don't matter

Every defendant gets to make his or her individual defense. People can't be convicted via statistics, that's not justice. Each new case is a new fact pattern. It would be the height of injustice to punish people based on the "odds" they are guilty. It has to be proof for the individual case.

[Captain Hilts]

29. Yes, but they use the odds to look for suspects. Over 50% of women murdered...

are murdered by someone they know. So, you start looking at the men in their lives or formerly in their lives. There's a logic to it.

But the press has no business beating this to death until there is something official to say.

[Grandrose]

16. MSM only cover story with racial taboo?

Another tragedy and less to none of the 24/7 coverage, both are horrendous...the media is sick and MSNBC in particular is disgusting:

Jun 23, 2007 1:25 pm US/Pacific

Husband Arrested In SUV Killings Case
Christopher Vaughn Charged With Murdering His Wife And Three Kids
(CBS) ST. CHARLES, Mo. A suburban Chicago man found shot alongside the bodies of his wife and their three children in the family sport utility vehicle earlier this month was charged Saturday in their shooting deaths.

Christopher Vaughn, 32, was charged with eight counts of first-degree murder, prosecutor James Glasgow said.

The announcement came nine days after the bodies of 34-year-old Kimberly Vaughn and her children — Abigayle, 12, Cassandra, 11, and Blake, 8 — were found in a 2004 Ford Expedition parked on a service road near Interstate 55 in Channahon, about 40 miles southwest of Chicago. Kimberly Vaughn was shot once and the children were shot multiple times.

The announcement of the charges came around the time funerals for Kimberly Vaughn and her children were to begin in Missouri, where the family once lived.

My condole scenes to both families! :-(

[ToeBot]

21. Even with the update, I still don't have a clue what you're on about, but whatever. nt

[Emit]

30. I thought I read yesterday that he broke down and confessed. n/t

[depakid]

31. the lady 'expert'

May just be as sick an individual on certain levels as the defendant may well be.