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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 10:46 PM
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The Colbert Report just had one of the Booted from the Navy Arabic Translators on!
Talking about "Don't ask, don't tell" rule.

Very funny interview!
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 10:48 PM
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1. everyday he chooses to be straight
:rofl:
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 10:50 PM
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2. The only thing worse than a terrorist attack is a gay guy stopping it
58 Arabic translators out of the military because they are gay
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 10:54 PM
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3. OMG! This guest is unbelievable, if his book is what I think it's about.
Edited on Thu Jun-14-07 10:57 PM by Up2Late
Tell me this guy's book isn't trying to argue that Hearing voices in your head (a symptom of Schizophrenia) is actually...
The voice of GOD!:banghead: :wow:
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 12:36 AM
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5. No that is not what he is saying
He is saying that hearing voices is being found to be far more common than once was thought and that it is not indicative of mental disease. The simple fact is that there is a constant internal dialog going on in our subconscious. Sometimes for some people the ideas and desires surface as actual words within their conscious mind. It is not schizophrenia as it does not overwhelm their sense of reality. It is just something that occurs in some minds.

Many religious figures experienced this sort of thing and lacking a better explanation attributed to voices to God. That is the thing with the mind. When it experiences something it attempts to identify the source for the experience. And failing a true understanding of it will apply whatever meaning it can to it.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 11:13 PM
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6. Very well-put, Az., says this retired social worker and ...
Master's in Psychology degree recipient.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 03:12 AM
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7. Sorry, but I strongly disagree and find books and authors like this extremely dangerous to society.
This guy is the Mental Heath Science equivalent of the current crop of Global Warming deniers.

No, hearing voices is not alway a sign of Schizophrenia, but it is an indication of some sort of internal problem with the brain such as Frontal Lobe Epilepsy or various different types of poisoning.

And no, hearing voices is not the same as the inner dialog that most of us have, that's called thinking and that IS normal. People who actually "hear voices" do not recognize those "voices" as coming from inside their own brain, they think (for reasons we don't fully understand yet) that those voices are external, even though they are just internal thoughts that have been mis-routed in some way, inside their own brain.

I have several people in my family (as does this author) who have had, or are still having, auditory hallucination, but the difference is, my family is not in active denial of the problem, as this author is.

Also, I've lost two of my best friends in the last 6 years to suicide and both of them had obvious (to me) Mental Illness, yet both of them (and their families) thought they could overcome their problems without treating their Mental Illness, by turning to religion. Both of them failed and both are now dead. One at age 43 and the other 35, but believe me, being right about the fact that your friend needed treatment for Mental Illness after they have killed themselves is no comfort at all.

It's very sad to me that books like this, written by these so-called "experts," get equal or even greater respect from most people than do the current scientific research into this area, an area that the scientific community are finally making major progress in, thanks to new technology's like the CAT Scans and PET Scans.

But hey, as Stephen Colbert likes to joke, it's the "Occam's razor" school of thought that so many anti-scientific folks love to use these days to justify their inability to just say the words, "I don't know" or "I don't understand." And what is behind that inability? Pride (one of the seven deadly sins).

About Occam's razor
<http://skepdic.com/occam.html>

That's all I'm going to say about this and I'm sure I haven't changed your feelings about this, but as The Buddha taught, I can not show you The Path and expect you to understand it, this is a path you must travel yourself to understand.

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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 12:29 AM
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4. Replay coming up! (kick)
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