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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 08:47 PM
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Rasmussen showing Edwards ahead if the Presidential election were held today.
Edited on Wed Jun-13-07 09:28 PM by tjwash
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 08:48 PM
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1. good
all three candidates beat Romney and Thompson, the two I believe have the best chance of getting the nomination. I suspect it'll be Romney.
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venable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 08:49 PM
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2. Edwards must be the nominee - I believe this will hold, and increase towards Edwards
the fact is that independents and moderate republicans favor him.


and he has the most detailed, progressive policies.

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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 08:59 PM
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6. and isn't it a glimmer of hope
for this fucked-up country that Edwards is rising like cream to the top. Maybe, just maybe, there are a half dozen brains cells floating around out there and periodically one of the great unwashed has an actual sentient thought and says "ghouliani - are you SHITTING me?" or "Thompson? get real!"

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venable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 08:50 PM
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3. and this is why the MSM is afraid of Edwards n/t
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 09:01 PM
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8. .I wonder how a Gore run would would affect these numbers?
One of our three would be sent packing; just unsure of which one.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 08:55 PM
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4. Ghouliani clearly looks like the strongest Puggie.
However he's so vulnerable it's laughable. As soon as people find out anything about him he'll crash & burn. With any luck, that will be after the Puggie convention.

Vulnerabilities: Anti-gun, pro-choice, cross-dresser, sleazy personal life. The Fundies will stay home, and the Puggies can't win without them.

Dems could TRUTHFULLY Swiftboat him on his big 9-11 image. The bungles, the abandonment of #7 and the failure to warn, the dead firefighters, the poisoned air, etc. That will kill the Independent vote.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 09:00 PM
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7. don't forget the part about
not having one shred of qualification for the job
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 09:06 PM
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9. Unlike Fred Thompson.
:eyes:
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 10:26 PM
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16. i have yet to see a republican even marginally qualified
there actually used to be intelligent, thoughtful republicans

they might have opinions you didn't like, but you could discuss with them

no more
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 10:00 AM
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18. Since when did that ever stop a Puggie?
What were Raygun's qualifications? What are Shrub's?
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 08:56 PM
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5. as an obama supporter I say Good for Edwards. Keep on going!
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 09:27 PM
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10. I'm hoping Gore runs, but regardless, this is good news.
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venable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 09:45 PM
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11. thanks, IP n/t
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 09:47 PM
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12. Sometimes numbers speak for themselves
And sometimes the fact the corporate media ignores a candidate speaks even louder.
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 10:01 PM
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13. And some polls have different numbers than others
This poll is from May 7-8. We've seen others since that time showing the same matchups with different numbers. The last one I saw posted that showed the various Dem v. Rep matchups had Obama as the only one to win against every Republican, with Clinton and Edwards behind.

I'm not saying one poll is right and another wrong ... just that these things seem to be quite varied and see, to change radically every week. Odd, however, for someone to post a poll that is five weeks old.

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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 10:03 PM
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14. I'm guessing the attacks on Edwards will be increasing exponentially soon.
He must frighten the hell out of the GOP.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 10:16 PM
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15. The La Times/Bloomberg Polls has Obama as the frontrunner
He beats all, while Edwards loses to both McCain and Guiliani. Hillary loses to all three.
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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 10:29 PM
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17. If the election were held today...
... the Democratic candidate would be conceding by around 9:00 tomorrow AM EDT. Not that he or she actually lost, of course, but it's what fashionable Democrats do these days. They'll say they want to save the country the protracted misery of another contested election. They'll want to move forward and let the healing begin.

They'll promise to do everything in their power to see that the bitter partisanship of the campaign ends immediately and that both sides "go to work for the people that elected them" -- and although we're trained to hear that ridiculous phrase and infer from it the words "the American people," that would actually be code for fellating the usual US corporate interests whose parasitic, violent, greedy little lives of corporate personhood will continue to reap massive rewards no matter who's in office.

That's why I took my Kerry bumper sticker off around noon the day after the 2004 elections. Everybody knew he had been screwed; the exit polls in Ohio and elsewhere were all out of whack with the "official" results. It was just a matter of serious people taking the time and energy -- armed with the necessary cash to support the process no matter how long it took -- to put pressure on the right people and be led to the right pieces of the puzzle. But Kerry wasn't going to be around for that fight, as he made clear as early as decency allowed that Wednesday morning.

We had to leave that fight to RFK Jr. and his crack team of one investigator two years later, but the evidence was all out there just waiting for a tenacious, hard-assed team of Democratic investigators to uncover, name names, drag the guilty out of their leather chairs and clap them in irons for the all-time greatest perp-walk in recorded history.

And it seems like we're all still waiting for a tenacious, hard-assed team of Democrats to emerge from somewhere, sometime and do a little serious damage to the BushCo bastards. So far, they're acting like coy little debs at their coming-out party, dropping tantalizing hints along with a trail of unacknowledged subpoenas.

People go nuts every time the word "impeachment" slips past the political and mass media censors. Unfortunately, as far as the chief censor is concerned, impeachment is still off the table. Not enough time to impeach and still do the peoples' work, don't cha know. And the people in the boardrooms of corporate America are getting a little damned impatient for their next tax break.


wp
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 10:03 AM
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20. You're so cynical, Warren.
Actually, I presume there will be advances in the procedure by 2008. I'm anticipating the unveiling of a new strategy: The pre-emptive concession, announced on the Monday evening before the election.
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 10:02 AM
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19. K&R.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 01:19 PM
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21. As an Edwards supporter
I am more curious at this point about Guiliani who seems to lead by the sheer contrast in excitement and personality with an unsustainable campaign that most likely won't get enthusiastic Bush machine support. Gules is one of those media darlings that never get near the prize. THEY might keep his head above water but any disconnect with the mighty fraud machine and the dynasty will turn him into something worse than Bob Dole. He'll be shouting "911!" for credit card companies for the next twenty years to pay off his campaign debt.

It is puzzling, always has been, how GOP obvious schmucks and losers by the book of reason, stay up there
and even win when there are at least a hundred million other Americans more competent and deserving for the job. Whenever I see these polls and they show Edwards, a known name as much as Gules, polling that close I have to wonder where in the season we are at and what all those people are really thinking. What the GOPers(or the TV husk minds) are really thinking is really important. I think that means generally most people want a winner form their respective party and then other issues come to bear and perceptions in the unreliable, treacherous MSM. This is largely mush but mush with a lean and an impetus not studied nor foresight extended. this is why, using these polls, we HAVE to say it is too early, because a real predictive insight needs in depth knowledge of the people. If you have a pool you test the waters with a chemical kit not just by sticking your finger in.

The reason I say this is not sell my candidate short. The poll shows strength in some real sense. It is just that they are not worth the one-ups against other candidates for vague reasons and high claims based on the equally mysterious worry that those GOP schlumps will rack up those high percentages(with a disgruntled, disaffected party) and even defeat our incomparably illustrious choices. I guess, i do not know, that if you yourself took a random sample and questioned people in depth, screw the lowest common denominator in the search for the law of averages you would get a better picture of what is, and will be, going on but without the contest points that polls seem to confer. In other words, talk it up and stop listing to Gallup/USA or anyone else. Bending to that seems a self-fulfilling way to play to the two percent solution of American gridlock politics.

Go for the landslide. The people deserve it if the people are going to be served by it.

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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 08:27 PM
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22. I think I'll give this a
:kick: and a :thumbsup: and a :bounce:....thanks, that made my day :)
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