Impeach Dick Cheney (Plame Thread #12)

[H2O Man]

How Libby became Cheney's pawn
The vice president knew the intelligence for the Iraq war was cooked. So he launched his aide to smear the man who took the information public.
By Sidney Blumenthal


…..On Feb. 21, 2002, Wilson left for his mission to Niger, where he found no evidence of Saddam seeking uranium. Before he returned, on March 1, the State Department's Intelligence and Research Bureau (INR) circulated its analysis, "Niger: Sale of Uranium to Iraq Is Unlikely." About a week later, the CIA produced its own report, based on Wilson's and other assessments, but that did not deter Cheney from declaring on three Sunday TV interviews on March 24 that Saddam was indeed trying to make nuclear weapons. Cheney was briefed on the CIA report immediately before or after his portentous remarks on television. (The CIA briefer, Craig Schmall, testified in the Libby trial that Cheney "did ask" for and "received" the report in "early 2002.")

In early September 2002, senior administration officials -- Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice, launched an intensive campaign to persuade public opinion of Saddam's nuclear threat. "We don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud," said Rice. When the White House speechwriters and NSC staff sought to insert the Niger claim into a speech Bush was to deliver at the United Nations on Sept. 11, the CIA told them it was unproved and the charge was stricken from the text. ….

In his meeting with Judith Miller, according to her testimony on the witness stand, Libby confided that the CIA "was beginning to backpedal from the unequivocal intelligence" it had provided prewar about Saddam's nuclear program. Of course, that was a complete lie. Libby was deliberately misleading the reporter, covering up the CIA's many warnings and reports to the contrary, as he tried to get her to publish falsehoods about Wilson and reveal Plame's identity. Libby appealed to Miller's sense of justice. The CIA, he told her, was engaged in "a perverted war of leaks" against the wholly innocent administration.

In October 2003, neoconservative Undersecretary of Defense Douglas Feith sent the Senate Intelligence Committee a classified report, "Summary of Body of Intelligence on Iraq-al Qaeda Contacts," a farrago of disinformation that had been the basis of the Libby memo given to Powell. Feith had been in charge of the Pentagon's Office of Special Plans, a parallel intelligence unit that stovepiped disinformation from Iraqi exiles to the Office of the Vice President and the NSC with a stamp of approval that evaded the normal channels of verifying intelligence. Within weeks, Feith's report was leaked to the neoconservative Weekly Standard and published under the headline: "Case Closed: The U.S. Government's Secret Memo Detailing Cooperation Between Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden." On Jan. 9, 2004, Cheney took it upon himself, in an interview with the Rocky Mountain News, to promote the Weekly Standard story as "the best source of information." Cheney's support for the disinformation continued through the 2004 campaign and beyond. ……

http://salon.com/opinion/blumenthal/2007/02/01/libby_cheney/


Timing is everything. This is in true in politics as in sports. And it is equally important in the theater of a courtroom drama. A talented attorney will present something of extreme significance to a jury shortly before court recesses for a weekend. Thus, it was no coincidence that FBI investigator Deborah Bond testified that Libby had admitted that he and VP Cheney "may have" discussed exposing Valerie Plame’s identity to journalists. This discussion between Libby and Cheney took place on AF2, a time that Patrick Fitzgerald has focused attention on during Catherine Martin’s earlier testimony.

The testimony in the Libby trial has made clear that the OVP operation against Joseph and Valerie Wilson was part of something much larger. In my opinion, the most important article that documents what that larger issue was is the fantastic essay by Sidney Blumenthal, "How Libby became Cheney’s pawn," from Salon.com.

Blumenthal quotes Richard Clarke as saying that VP Cheney had read the intelligence reports, and was fully aware that the Niger yellow cake business was pure fiction. Cheney knew that Joseph Wilson was telling the American people the truth. And Cheney was determined to suppress that truth.

Next week, the prosecution will present some more evidence that shows that Scooter Libby consciously lied to the FBI investigators, and to the grand jury. It is expected that NBC’s Tim Russert will be the last prosecution witness. And then, we will get to see Team Libby’s defense. A large part of it will focus on how busy Libby was with national defense issues. However, the most anticipated parts of the defense’s case will be when two men take the witness stand: Scooter Libby and Dick Cheney.

At this point, it seems likely that Libby will be convicted on every count he is charged with. It is interesting to speculate on if there is a chance that VP Cheney could face charges. While it is possible, I would strongly urge DUers to consider taking steps that will help with this case in other areas.

The first is to contribute, if possible, to the Joseph and Valerie Wilson Legal Support Trust. The link is:
http://wilsonsupport.org/
Should their case result in payment beyond their investment, the excess will be contributed by the trustees of this group to organizations that protect "whistle blowers."

Also, it is extremely important to write, e-mail, and call your elected representatives, and request that they take actions to investigate and impeach VP Cheney. The Libby trial has provided solid grounds for such investigations.

Finally, it is important to write letters to the editor of as many newspapers as possible. These letters do not need to be long or detailed. They simply need to express disgust with Dick Cheney, and call for Congress to take action.

Thank you.

[panader0]

1. Thanks H2O Man

Your Plame posts are very informative.

[mmonk]

2. As usual, a recommend.

And thanks for including the link for the Wilson Trust. I encourage DU'ers to make a statement and contribute if you can.

[Alamom]

3. Thank you. n/t

[Me.]

4. Previous Plame Threads

Research Forum & Threads 1,2,3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_oet&address=358x192

Rosesaylavee has done a fantastic job of posting the Plame threads in the Research Forum.


Why Matthews Matters (Plame Thread #11)

www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x99240


The Relative Deprivation of Dick Cheney

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x47102



Government Documents Relating To The Plame Case:

http://wid.ap.org/documents/libbytrial/index.html

[NewJeffCT]

5. Thanks for writing, as always

I've been thinking of writing some LTTEs on this subject. I'll be sure to post on DU for comments, editing and input before I submit.

Keep up the great work.

[brer cat]

6. K&R. Thanks, H2O Man!

[Me.]

7. Cheney's Dilemma: To Testify Or Not

I have noted during the proceedings in court this last week that Wells never definitively says Cheney will testify, he always leaves the door open. This is understandable, to me, for Cheney may finally be in a no win position. As we've discussed on previous Plame threads, Libby is Cheney's firewall, and only Cheney's willingness to come to the aid of his aide will keep that firewall in place. Should he bail, it has been speculated that the Liar's attorneys will advise him that it's every man for himself.

At the same time, Cheney must be debating his options. Given what has come out in court already, does he really want to subject himself, under oath, to a cross examination by Fitzgerald?

[H2O Man]

9. An exercise:

Think if you were Cheney's attorney. Not a White House attorney, but his private legal adviser. What would you say to Dick? What are the potential risks versus the potential benefits in testifying? In not testifying?

[Mandate My Ass]

15. I would think the only real benefit in his testimony

is that he can back up Libby's lame "I-was-too-busy-with-nat'l-security" defense, which would make Libby less likely to feed them Cheney to get off the hook. Is there anything I'm missing? Anything else he would say in defense of his/Scooter's actions has been amply disputed by the prosecution witnesses. :shrug:

It's not the crime, it's the cover up, or so they say. The cover up is now completely uncovered.

K&R

[H2O Man]

30. You raise a key point:

And it may not be the focus of the Libby trial, but it surely should be a question the House of Representatives poses for Cheney and Libby -- if they were so darned busy on national security issues, how could they claim they didn't ever get any information in response to VP Cheney's request the CIA look into the Niger business? If they honestly thought that Saddam was seeking nuclear weapons, why didn't they have a follow-up?

"The cover up is now completely uncovered." I like that.

[bleever]

50. If I were Cheney's attorney I would advise him not to testify.

(Please note: I'm not an attorney, but I play one on DU.)

He most certainly places himself in serious jeopardy if he takes the stand. It is likely he was less than truthful in previous testimony to investigators. Repeating his false version of events on the stand (if even possible at this point, given the evidence in the record) might well be perjury. Telling the truth now would reveal his previous testimony as false, also a crime.

Insistence on the "too busy" defense would not be credible, given his demonstrated involvement and high level of concern.

Because the truth is that Scooter is guilty, there is nothing true Dick can say to help the defense, and anything he does say with the intent of helping the defense has, by now, been precluded by the testimony of prior witnesses and the evidence introduced.

The down side of not testifying: if Scooter is left to twist in the wind, any potential deal he might make with the prosecutor would certainly involve giving evidence against Cheney. We know now, for a certainty, that Cheney directed the blowing of a NOC's cover, for which he had no authority, and which is a grave crime.

Would Scooter rat out Cheney for leniency? The way Fitz works, he wouldn't have to. He'd just need to fill in a few blanks, and he'd be helping Fitz connect the dots that, once connected, form a noose around Cheney's neck.

Still, as Cheney's personal lawyer, I would advise him not to testify. Any negative consequences that arose from that decision could be dealt with by trying to run out the clock (on his term in office) and to interminably delay any proceedings with myriad legal challenges.

[Mandate My Ass]

51. You said much more clearly what I was trying to convey

He lied before this trial and that has been well established at this point. No matter what he says now, Fitz gets a crack at him and Cheney is no match for Fitz. It will go better for him to keep his lying yap shut and any lawyer worth his salt would tell him so.

Scooter is going down, the only question in my mind is: will he directly implicate Cheney, Rove or perhaps even Bush (prolly not) to get a few years shaved off his sentence?

[babylonsister]

10. I thought it was a 'done deal' that Cheney would testify. Wasn't he

subpoenaed? Can he decide not to testify, do you know?

[Me.]

14. He Was

But the defense doesn't have to call him, if they decide not to. The same with Libby, they still have the option of not putting him on the stand, though the judge has already said that not to do so would be suicide and that if Libby doesn't testify, the memory defense goes right out the window.

[Me.]

18. As Far As I Know

He doesn't have much latitude if he is called. He has to show up or be held in contempt. He could also take the 5th. I imagine also his lawyer could try to make the case that as veep he shouldn't be called, but don't think that would fly. There could be wrangling behind the scenes, after all I Liar is a loyal soldier and pressure might privately be brought to bear, something like "if you insist on calling the Veep, your legal defense fund would disappear". Cheney is nothing if not a finagler. Perhaps someone with a legal background could address Cheney's legal options.

[babylonsister]

22. Whatever he decides, it doesn't bode well for him, does it.

Breaks my heart! :evilgrin: I'm waiting for him to quietly retire due to health reasons. It's overdue.

[H2O Man]

25. There may be

a number of surprises in the next week. Team Libby certainly recognizes that Scooter will most likely be convicted on every count. More, the number of issues they might appeal the convictions may be large, but none appear promising at this point. Libby's attorneys are very talented. Because they know that their client is guilty as hell, they have to try to pull a trick out of the bag.

[babylonsister]

26. H2O Man, let me add my voice to the chorus of thank-you's!

Your work keeping us updated has been priceless; though I don't always post to your threads, I do try to read them.
So thanks! :hug:
And I am looking forward to how this shakes out and who the casualties are.

[calimary]

32. Do you think they'll try to renegotiate a plea - if libby agrees to sing?

'Course, you KNOW what I've been holding out for (IMPEACHMENT!!! NOW!!!)

Is that even an option for libby at this point? A legal eagle I'm not.

[H2O Man]

34. During any trial,

that type of thing is an option. I'll say this: Libby isn't stupid. He knows that he faces certain conviction on all counts. And he has to recognize that Judge Walton is known for handing down harsh sentences. There has to be a significant amount of pressure on Scooter right now. You know, there are people who have been so crushed by life, and so institutionalized by years of incarceration, that they prefer jail to freedom. But Libby isn't one of them, and he will not find it comfortable to exist in that environment.

[TahitiNut]

53. I wonder if Fitz is planning on unveiling the sealed indictment between Libby's conviction and ...

... sentencing. It'd be an interesting play. You're convicted, Scooter. Now we want your testimony in "U.S. v. ____." Your failure to cooperate will be taken into account in your sentencing. Right now, we want detailed specifications regarding what you'll be willing to substantiate as a government witness. In return, we'll recommend a shorter sentence at a more comfortable prison - one that's convenient and gets you out on testimony day-trips.

[Fovea]

86. I wonder if he has to unseal the indictment to get that

leverage.

I mean it pretty much has to be either the deciderer, shotgun dick, or KKKarl.

With that in mind, he could just generically say ' I want your cooperation in a case I am bringing,' and heck, it might be all three.

This trial has been a start to finish charlie foxtrot for the forces of darkness. Boy when this hits Conyer's committee, the fur is gonna fly.

[JDPriestly]

89. Cheney is too arrogant to allow himse lf to be examined under oath

by a mere federal prosecutor. It won't happen.

[malaise]

8. My morning fix

Thanks H2O Man.

[Patsy Stone]

11. WaPo: Libby Left Out Some Facts In Interviews, FBI Agent Says

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/01/AR2007020100913.html

By Amy Goldstein and Carol D. Leonnig
Washington Post Staff Writers
Friday, February 2, 2007; Page A08

One of the FBI agents who interviewed I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby during the CIA leak investigation testified yesterday that the vice president's then-chief of staff did not acknowledge disclosing the identity of undercover CIA officer Valerie Plame to reporters, asserting that he was surprised when another journalist later told him about her.

FBI agent Deborah S. Bond also testified that Libby said that, while he was preparing to be interviewed by investigators in the fall of 2003, he came across a handwritten note he had made during a phone conversation with Vice President Cheney. The note made it clear that, shortly before June 12, 2003, Cheney had told Libby that Plame worked at the CIA's counterproliferation division and was married to an outspoken critic of the Iraq war.

K&R.

[Me.]

16. Missed This Yesterday

"Yesterday, Walton ruled that Libby's attorneys are not entitled to look at Miller's notebooks for evidence that she had spoken with sources other than Libby about Plame or Wilson."

[spanone]

12. Three lovely words....Impeach the Dick. K&R

:bounce:

[izzybeans]

13. You have to be a completely incompetent journalist if you were to fall

for their propaganda. Either that or you are an accomplice in the lie. Most everyone I knew at the time recognized this as Cheney b.s. and tracked down the information that debunked it, almost in real time. This includes the Joe Wilson's op-ed piece. This op-ed was only icing on an already solid cake. We knew the weapons programs were dismantled and so did the administration. They even said so in 2001.

Why stop at impeachment?

[peacetalksforall]

28. You would have to be incompetent or an accomplice... how about

or a paid journalist? It wouldn't be shocking - we have knowledge that it does happen and we have the news from yesterday that AEI offered $10,000 to scientific writiers (?correct) to spin warming on behalf of Exxon-Mobil(?). Hope I got that stratight - having to work means skimming.

[H2O Man]

31. Right.

There might even be some legendary journalists who aren't primarily journalists at all.


"In the field of intelligence, a legend is an operational plan for a cover, or a cover itself, depending on the mission." -- James J. Angleton, former chief of counterintelligence, CIA.

[peacetalksforall]

36. Time to cricle back to a few months ago when there was talk

of Miller and Woodward being CIA operatives. Maybe she went to a drastic extent to sacrifice herself as a journalist who wouldn't betray her source (playing hero by going to jail to protect what is traditionally a whistleblower, but in reality she was a political 'feeder' and friend to the most infamous feeder - Chalabi).

[vogonity]

42. Legendary Jounalists?

Hmmm... Who WOOD you possibly be pointing toWARD as one of those legendary journalists?

Many thanks and much respect, H20 Man.

[Raksha]

88. My thoughts exactly--who WOOD H2OMan be referring to?

Well, duh, I'm gonna have to think about that one for a while (not very long, actually).

[worldgonekrazy]

61. I used that very idea in an argument recently

I got in to a pretty heated argument with a friend of mine over this trial a few days ago. He was contending that the trial was actually a bad thing in that reporters were being forced to reveal their sources, and although it was good in this specific instance, it was a terrible precedent to set for the future. The main focus of that argument was Judith Miller and her having been jailed for refusing to reveal her sources.

My counter argument was that Miller should not be viewed as a journalist, but rather as an agent for the neo-cons. My friend is a Washington establishment type, so he automatically assumed my argument was some sort of conspiracy theory (which I guess it actually is, in a way), but I think it was pretty solid. If a "journalist" is functioning to promote a certain agenda, rather than objectively reporting facts, should they still enjoy the protections a "real" journalist would? The problem, of course, is that it would be hard to draw the line (are journalists ever allowed to promote any sort of "agenda"?), but all in all I think it was a pretty solid argument.

[H2O Man]

63. Judith Miller

was not accepting supervision from the editors at the New York Times. She was accepting supervision from other sources. It seems that the "conspiracy theory" would be the one that took the position that her primary duty was that of a journalist.

The law that allowed Mr. Fitzgerald to get the testimony of journalists as a last resort is not new. I think it is fair to be concerned that it not be applied too frequently, and certainly not without a just cause. However, several levels of federal courts reviewed the case. More, in Mr. Fitzgerald's filings, it is clear that a significant number of journalists did not support Miller's cause.

[peacetalksforall]

74. A free press was in the design for this country to make sure

the government was doing everything right. The key is free. If she went to jail to protect a whistelblower who is exposing something wrong in the working of the government she would be keeping her silence for the journalist's code which is separate from the law and many consider it an honorable code.

But, it appears she was not exposing government wrongdoing, but aiding wrongdoing against the citizens by promoting their deception over wmd's. She was a confidant of a participant in the deception. She is/was a buddy of Chalabi and the WH promoted their agenda through her and the newspaper she worked for. She was protecting a wrongdoer's operative and herself by going to jail. The government leaders were wrong, therefore the journalist's code didn't/doesn't apply to her.

Someone should be filing a case against her for her role in deception (or is her 'assistance' still just an allegation?).

The journalist code is out the window in the case of what Judith Miller did with the entire pimp for war role she played. imo.

There is an obvious distinction between whistleblower and wrongdoer-government=employss.

But some journalists, talk show guests and hosts, plus right wing lawyers (Victoria Toensing and Joe de Genova let the way) sure wanted to twist the distinction to help her and those she assisted - they really played a poor Judith Miller game with us.

[EFerrari]

38. That's exactly right. n/t

[izzybeans]

76. That's what I was thinking too, especially since

Libby had signed his waiver already and Miller still decided to go to jail. The whole journalistic ethics thing was perhaps the most laughable moment in this whole tragic comedy. She wasn't protecting a source, so she was protecting something else.

[TacticalPeek]

17. K&R

:kick:

[La_Fourmi_Rouge]

19. Congress will respond.

But they will only respond to howls of outrage from a disgusted citizenry! Cheney specifically ORDERED the outing of Valerie Plame and thus destroyed our covert operation on counterproliferation. Destroyed, Wiped Out the entire Brewster Jennings group and Exposed those loyal patriots and their contacts in other countries, including Iran, Iraq, and Turkey.

We will never know the damage this ugly scheme perpetrated, how many died or got tossed in some dark cell, their families taken away or fled to safe haven, because Cheney and his minions had a agenda.

And that agenda was: War at any cost.

[byronius]

20. K & R.

[Annces]

21. Thanks

Super-bowl weekend, but the Judge's Steelers are not playing.

If I were Cheney, I would no way testify, but Libby may be expecting him to.

[porphyrian]

23. I'll definitely kick that. - n/t

[Catherine Vincent]

24. No, thank you!

:kick:

[Swamp Rat]

27. Impeach Dick Cheney!!!

[Catherine Vincent]

29. LOL!

:thumbsup:

[goforit]

41. He looks like Hyacynth from" Keeping up with appearrances". LOL!!!

and my mother-in -law!

[Patsy Stone]

43. "Bu-kaayy residence...lady of the house speaking."

Aw, Hyacinth doesn't deserve that comparison. I don't know about your MIL. :)

[goforit]

44. agreed.

[kitkat65]

62. I always thought Bush really belonged in the "Standing in the Back Looking

Stupid Party."

[mod mom]

33. Just donated-thanks for all your excellents posts.

[H2O Man]

35. Thank you.

I really appreciate people donating to the Wilson's fund. Even if it's a couple of dollars, I think it is one of the most important things that people can do. I know that Joseph and Valerie Wilson appreciate it, too.

[EFerrari]

37. A related read on ousting Darth Cheney:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=98582

:bounce:

[H2O Man]

40. Thanks!

There are some outstanding articles being published, that expose Cheney as the gutter thug that he really is. He is far worse than Agnew and Nixon squared.

[EFerrari]

56. Watching a Molly Ivins interview yesterday, it occurred to me that neither

Darth nor Junior are interested in governance at all, only in power-->gain.

At least Nixon had some interest in policy.

/spelling

[H2O Man]

91. Exactly.

Even as horrible as he was -- an Nixon was so criminal that he should never have been president -- old Tricky Dick did try to do the right thing in some areas of both domestic and foreign policy. And he was intelligent, and knew a great deal about many of the complicated issues the nation faced.

It's a strange mix that Nixon was. He was actually the most progressive American president as far as respect for and treatment of traditional Native Americans (far more so than even Jimmy Carter), but he was also a criminal who posed an extremely serious threat to the US Constitution.

Neither Bush2 nor Cheney have any of Nixon's good points. But they have all of his dark side.

[ourvoicescount]

39. Thank You here too. I want court TV...

[in_cog_ni_to]

45. Ditto that! IMPEACH Dick Cheney!

:kick:

[speedoo]

46. K&R.

Thanks, H2Oman.

[H2O Man]

47. A Hard Day's Night

is playing on The Movie Channel (TMC) from 1 to 2:30 pm est. (How can this be almost 43 years old?) I guess if there aren't going to be any court hearings today, then watching a Beatles movie will do.

[Patsy Stone]

48. Reporter: What would you call that hairstyle you're wearing?

George: Arthur.

[H2O Man]

49. Ha!

I have watched this so many times, and still love that one.

I also think John's "If I Fell" is one of the best songs ever.

[Patsy Stone]

59. That's a beautiful song

I love "I'll Cry Instead". If I had a time machine, on one of my stops, I'd like to be one of the girls in that train car. (sigh)

Who's the little old man?
That's Paul grandfather.
Oh... He's very clean isn't he?

:)

[H2O Man]

60. I always had

my eye on Patti Boyd in that train scene as a youngster.

My daughters think the "very clean man" bit is a giggle. If we are in public and there is an odd character, they'll do the "very clean" routine.

[spanone]

64. Forty-three years ago..... Shadeland Drive-in theater 1964.

Kick

[Patsy Stone]

73. For all you do...

This Pattie's for you.

[LaPera]

52. Shit, Cheney will just quit before he's ever impeached!

And a new clean republican will become vice president...one that will be able to run for president in 2008!!

[TahitiNut]

54. I think that's the plan.

The 'Replacement VP Cum President #44' would benefit from the martyring of Smirk, too - shock the national conscience and jettison a post-presidency liability at the same time. It's just toooo convenient a scenario to ignore.

[EFerrari]

57. First they have to find a clean Republican. lol

:hi:

[H2O Man]

58. I am not aware

of anything that supports that type of speculation. There isn't a heck of a lot of support among republicans, except for those on the extreme right, for VP Cheney. There are no historical examples of an impeachment in the executive branch helping a party in the next presidential election. I think that this theory that impeaching Cheney would benefit the republicans indicates that some democrats have been programmed to fear doing the right thing.

[joe_b]

92. H2O Man thanks for the updates and analysis

Great job.

If Scooter were to turn on Cheney and implicate him in a crime, and impeachment seemed inevitable, then I could see House/Senate Republicans approaching Cheney and threatening him with impeachment if he didn't resign. He could resign for "health reasons." Then Bush could choose Romney as VP. Romney would be a plus for Republicans in '08 -- he would be a clean-cut articulate candidate. Romney could help Republicans avoid the wipeout they're facing. That would be the motivation for Republicans.

For that scenario to happen, Scooter would have to turn on Cheney. If Cheney knew he had committed a crime, would he allow Scooter to turn on him. I doubt it. A deal would be worked out where Scooter gets a pardon in Jan '09. These people are fixers to whom the law means something only if they think they will get caught. Scooter will take the fall, but also get a pardon.

[bleever]

55. "A perverted war of leaks."

I. Liar Libby himself provides the epitaph to this entire sordid saga.

[wryter2000]

65. I'm with you

I'm normally against impeachment without investigations first, but the Libby trial has been more than adequate. Follow it up with a good impeachment inquiry in the Congress and get rid of him.

Not only will that get rid of him, but the corporate media won't be able to ignore it, and the shi-ite on Bush will make the evening news, too.

[autorank]

66. K&R. Nice side by side ... you and Bleumenthal. Very nice!

Impeach him just as soon as possible!

[Me.]

72. Is There A Paper Trail

for your "R"? :hi:

[autorank]

82. My "R" went into an unstable memory cofiguraion, bubble memory to

be specific, then the Recommender Verified Paper Trail was used for its intended purpose (which is
a trade secret I am not allowed to reveal;)

:hi:

[Patsy Stone]

83. I didn't recognize you

with your new avatar. Very handsome.

Hey! I'm getting a paper trail for Crist-mas! :hi:

[Me.]

84. I Think You Should Be Investigated

I'm alerting Michael Collins

[Kurovski]

67. K&R.(nt)

[DearAbby]

68. I dont know what the hell they are waiting for

It is clear Cheney outted a NOC CIA Agent to cover his lies. Testimony has already been given. Impeachment should have started already. Fitz, has already done the work. What does congress want, a gold engraved admission of guilt, penned personally from Cheney?

[Catherine Vincent]

69. Was there no court proceedings today?

:shrug:

[Mandate My Ass]

70. No. Monday thru Thursday

for the whole trial, IIRC.

[Catherine Vincent]

71. Thanks.

I hope the Fitz gets some rest this weekend. He deserves it. Oh, and the others too.
:beer:

[Me.]

75. Added For Good Measure

Check It Out

www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x112016

[La_Fourmi_Rouge]

77. Kicking with weekend study material

All roads lead to Cheney...

[DemReadingDU]

79. Interesting graphic!

[dweller]

87. Novak Intelligence Leak: All Roads Lead To Cheney

http://www.mikehersh.com/All_Roads_Lead_To_Cheney.shtml

By William Francis (PP)
Oct 18, 2003
Regarding the Wilson intelligence scandal: We need to realize that everything Bush, Novak, and McClellan are SAYING is absolutely true. But everything they're telling us is a lie. We have to remember to listen carefully to the exact words.

Novak originally said that the information about Wilson's wife came from, "two senior administration officials." this is true.

Novak also says that, "Nobody in the Bush administration called me to leak this." this is also true.

There is one man in the world who is BOTH a senior administration official, and does not release information from the administration (from the White House).

dp

[SteveM]

78. Very good summary of the real power behind the throne.

[H2O Man]

80. Countdown ....

Keith O is going to have a segment on how the Libby trial has shed some light on VP Cheney ....

[bleever]

81. Cheney as Tony Soprano,

though Cheney would never go see a therapist.

BTW, while I would advise Cheney against testifying, I'd also expect him to ignore that advice if he got it.

Have a great weekend!

[H2O Man]

90. I liked that.

It's good to have a smart journalist describe Cheney in terms that allows a large segment to understand him for what he is -- a commun thug.

[Patsy Stone]

85. Jon Stewart/Daily Show -- Video -- Half Glass Full Cheney

Enjoy!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x15201

[Me.]

93. Something Until Monday

:kick:

[halobeam]

94. great thread....

I'm getting spoiled having had twelve of these now.

A good kick for an excellent read...:kick:

[trumad]

95. Libby being found innocent would be like the Bears beating the Colts today

it would be a shock.

I think Fitz has some big surprises in store within the next couple of months.