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LeighAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 11:46 PM
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Carlyle Group Feeding Us Our Own Waste
Edited on Mon Jun-04-07 11:53 PM by LeighAnn
http://www.thestandard.com.hk/news_detail.asp?we_cat=9&art_id=46001&sid=13911526&con_type=1&d_str=20070605

I found this in "The Standard, China's Business Newspaper". It's a nice human interest piece about a nun who uses shareholder power to get corporations to be ethically responsible and what-not. It's supposed to be a feel-good piece, but it ends on a very sad note, unbeknownst to the Sister, writer, readers, etc. Here's an excerpt of the end of the article:

Last year Heinonen teamed up with community groups to file a shareholder resolution at Synagro Technologies of Houston, the parent company of a sewage plant in the Bronx that had long been the target of some residents' ire for its odor. The proposal, sponsored by the Mercy Investment Program, called on the company to report "at reasonable cost and omitting proprietary information, on environmental, health and safety impacts" of the New York Organic Fertilizer plant.

The response was immediate. Synagro flew in top management for a series of discussions with residents over the past year. Alvin Thomas, Synagro's general counsel who attended the meetings, said Heinonen played a critical role as mediator, supporting residents while also explaining the need to run a business.

Synagro in April was bought out by Carlyle Group, a private equity firm in Washington, and is no longer subject to shareholder resolutions.


Well that'll put a stop to those pesky questions!

Apparently, around the same time the Carlyle Group bought the outfit, the company "volutarily" closed up shop, and now the town is trying to figure out what to do with the "sludge" they left behind.

http://www.newsadvance.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=LNA%2FMGArticle%2FLNA_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1173351485439&path=!news!archive

Here's a town in Pennsylvania that's trying very hard to keep their sewer sludge out

http://www.republicanherald.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=18328714&BRD=2626&PAG=461&dept_id=532624&rfi=6

It turns out that this "sludge" is called Biosolids, and here's what it is, according to the EPA

Biosolids are the nutrient-rich organic materials resulting from the treatment of sewage sludge (the name for the solid, semisolid or liquid untreated residue generated during the treatment of domestic sewage in a treatment facility). When treated and processed, sewage sludge becomes biosolids which can be safely recycled and applied as fertilizer to sustainably improve and maintain productive soils and stimulate plant growth.


So you see, it's not cow manure being spread around your corn and wheat, it's people manure, now, that's all the rage. You are what you eat. The Carlyle Group is now feeding us our own shit.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 12:18 AM
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1. Soylent Green coming soon to your nearest food market
brought to you by the global corporatists.

Notice how allergies, asthma, hives, etc are on a straight upward curve. Globalism at its best.
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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 12:41 AM
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2. I remember seeing Soylent Green and thinking this movie could come true.
The movie gave me the chills.
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esvhicl Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 12:44 AM
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3. For thousands of years
people have defecated and urinated on the earth. Plumbing and toilets are fairly recent developments.

Why is people shit worse than horse shit?

I am no fan of the Carlyle Group but nitrogen is nitrogen.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 01:18 AM
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4. Exactly, where do you think farmers used to poop? Ever use Milorganite?
It's a wonderful fertilizer from sewage! IT is better than chemical fertilizer for the environment by far...

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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 02:57 PM
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8. Yeah, and their life-spans showed it.
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LeighAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 03:52 PM
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10. Horses don't take Prozac
If you remove the human fecal factor, just picture the amount of pharmaceuticals that go into to the wastewater system each year... the testing that *some* communities do on their "biosolids" doesn't include tests for phychotropic drug residuals. A lot of municipalities are using this as fertilizer in their parks... there's not a lot of long-term data that shows what effect this has on groundwater.

And then there's stuff like this from the Ft. Wayne Journal Gazette:

Those trying to get biosolids Friday were turned away from the site, a sun-baked parking lot surrounded by piles of brush and grass clippings with a mobile home for an office and two vehicle scales.

The state warning was based on the city’s annual report to the Indiana Department of Environmental Management submitted Jan. 30, which showed that biosolids in January and June of 2006 had elevated levels of fecal coliform but were distributed anyway, and that in May there were too many heavy metals in the soil. State officials also had questions about dates and weights of materials that were unclear in the city’s annual report.


http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journalgazette/17255477.htm

The fact that The Carlyle Group came to the rescue of a Houston company facing uncomfortable questions about the safety of it all makes the whole thing all the more suspicious to me.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 09:57 PM
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13. Well, we have had a lot of disease that has been eradicated
Since the end of the horse and buggy days

Cholera used to decimate communities - how much came from animal waste and how much from human waste I couldn't tell you.
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this_side_up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 01:44 AM
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5.  sewer sludge, food and people don't mix well

RNAA for arsenic, cadmium, copper, and molybdenum in CNS tissues ...
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat
... incidence of ALS among the 1964 San Francisco. 49ers football team and in Wisconsin through a fertilizer called 'Milorganite' which was reportedly high ...
www.springerlink.com/index/K257217647U06526.pdf - Similar pages


Milwaukee-story
articles from January and February, focused on the connection between three San Francisco 49ers playing on fields spread with Milorganite sludge fertilizer, ...
deadlydeceit.com/Milwaukee-story.html - 24k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages


Human Deaths
San Francisco 49ers playing on fields spread with Milorganite sludge fertilizer who contracted Lou Gehrig's disease and two MMSD milorganite plant employees ...
deadlydeceit.com/Human-deaths.html - 16k - Supplemental Result


< More results from deadlydeceit.com >
Lawn Fertilizer and Als (CBS) from the Vanderbilt Television News ...
... milorganite and amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS), also called Lou Gehrig's Disease, stemming from unusual ALS rate among San Francisco 49ers ...
openweb.tvnews.vanderbilt.edu/1987-2/1987-02-13-CBS-12.html - 7k -


UW vs. Northwestern (HOMECOMING!) - Page 10 - Sports-Boards
http://www.milorganite.com/ ... Milorganite: Family of Products or Product of Families? ... Pittsburgh Steelers, San Francisco 49ers, San Diego Chargers ...
www.sports-boards.net/forums/showthread.php?t=7419&page=10 - 102k



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CGowen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 02:16 AM
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6. yep diseases, parasites etc.. you have to treat it with special methods
like heat and you kill a lot of stuff
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 05:11 AM
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7. Leaky sewer pipes leak into drinking water...
The Clean water act ain't that clean...Sewer can get into drinking water..Because the government would rather subsidize highways for CARS and companies to make bottled water, to force water to be seen as a private commodity one buys instead of a right for life.

"It doesn't make sense," the Michigan Democrat says. He compares it to a questionable cup of water: "Three-fourths of it will be clean, but one-fourth of it is going to be dirty. But the whole glass isn't dirty; therefore, it's all right to consume."
http://www.grist.org/news/maindish/2005/03/10/boni-sewage/

When It Rains, It Pours -- Sewage

Every year, more than 850 billion gallons of raw sewage flow into America's waterways. The EPA is proposing a policy that would only worsen the nation's severe sewage problem.

Under EPA's so-called blending policy, sewer operators would be able to routinely mix barely treated sewage with fully treated sewage before discharging it downstream. This practice currently is only allowed during extreme weather events when it is not possible for a system to fully treat all of the sewage. But EPA wants to allow sewage dumping to occur virtually any time it rains, even when full treatment is feasible. Sewer operators could then bypass secondary treatment, the crucial step that removes most of the viruses, parasites and other pathogens, as well as toxic chemicals, from sewage. All that would be required under EPA's new policy is primary treatment, which merely screens out the solids from the sewage.

"We're actually just increasing the concentration of contaminant in that flow when we blend," explained Dr. Joan Rose, a Michigan State University professor, in a story that aired on NPR's "All Things Considered" on April 15. "And we should not be fooling ourselves or the community that we're actually protecting public health."

http://www.nrdc.org/media/pressreleases/050511.asp
http://www.nrdc.org/water/pollution/tns0405.asp
http://www.cleanwateraction.org/backgrounder1.htm


It's not just human wastes on the Fields and Farms it's in the water now..
There are too many humans and human made pollution ,too much waste for the Earth and our "treatment systems" to handle.So what do we do with it? The States could care less, they'd rather build more roads.
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 03:49 PM
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9. What about all of the drugs, hormones, etc. that humans consume
these days (versus in centuries past)...won't these be present in the human waste/sludge material? I don't know, but I would doubt that it could be ALL be filtered out, right? :shrug:
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 10:32 PM
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14. Exactly - it's the drugs, chemicals, and hormones that worry me about this.
Lord only knows what kind of cancer causing stuff is being used to fertilize our food.

*depressed*
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 04:38 PM
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11. soylent green is people poop.
Edited on Tue Jun-05-07 04:38 PM by librechik
ooooohhhh, that's what they meant!
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LeighAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 05:58 PM
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12. Same difference?
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