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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 02:34 PM
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I like Link TV however
It is so very depressing to look at what our country has done and has been doing for decades . I was not aware in 1968 that the UK was pulling out their control of the gulf , I was to tuning into Vietnam at the time . Since we were into Vietnam the US could not take control , sort of make you wonder what would have happened if the Shaw was not put in place and the US did take control back then .

Just to see how long all of this has been going on and all the lies that went with it really makes me even more ashamed to be called an american . I knew we were into all sorts of operations but to see it all laid out in vivid color is horrifying . I guess I am not strong enough to deal with these horrors that as an american I never had to endure .

Nothing is ever what it appears to be and our entire history is one of mass conflict and murder and it continues on in this so called 21st century , we seem to be at the tipping point of no return and no resolve .
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 02:43 PM
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1. Someone just watched Breakdown.
Linktv is something we should all support whether we get the channel or not. There is nothing like it on tv.

I've been watching Mosaic news for years. It's pretty rough.

Hey, why do you think so many people shut their eyes and ears. The problem is, the truth is still going on outside their little heads.
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 02:50 PM
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3.  You are right , I just watched breakdown
I watch Link TV all the time , sometimes even though I do want to be aware and know what's really going on I am left with a depressing feeling thinking that none of this horror will ever stop .

Being stuck with bush for the past 6 years certainly makes me even more sickened and to even consider there is the possibility with just one more incident and along comes a police state and no elections really drags me down .

I can't even imagine how many deaths there are in the last 60 years alone from our murderous efforts .
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 03:03 PM
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5. I come away from this with a sense of responsibility.
What I'm discovering is that, as you said, the horrors span multiple administrations. I am much less inclined to put all of the blame on Bush. I am now becoming aware that we are the ones who have enabled this to happen.

My parents were raised before there was television. I just flashed on that thought today. I think it's because Gore is making some points about the one way conversation it deals us. There were horrors before the media influence, but they were quite different. Now we have grown in numbers by virtue of easy energy, and must be sustained through these very horrors we speak of. Those evil foreign relations. Now the people are essentially addicted to a lifestyle that we can only rely on corporations to provide us. I see it as a self-perpetuating cycle. But ultimately we are the ones with the power. We are the masses asking that this be done in our names. And they do it, but in secrecy. Only a few of us know how it's done.

It is frightening. But like an addict, one must want to get better before they do anything about it. And one must know they're addicted before they can even make that choice.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 02:49 PM
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2. I love LINK. It's the only news I watch on teevee besides
occasionally watching WJ for headlines. LINK is a wonderful source of investigative reporting and in depth coverage of what the corporatists don't want to be known.

I understand how you feel. But remember, throughout human history there have been "horrors". These just happen to be our challenge. Let's see how we do.

:)
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 03:06 PM
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6. I agree about Link TV and all the years of horror
I am just just amazed of all the horrors that happened in my lifetime , the last 60 years has all been a lie . In school we were taught history but this history revolved and focused on the soviet union and the cold was , Kennedy and the cuban missile crisis . I knew all about Hitler , well what we knew at the time and the horrors of this .

Then we were in vietnam and this became the focus for the most part .

I guess I am most disheartened that these things continue to go on and just how bad this country has fallen and failed in the last 6 years where it is really in your face .

No one seems to have an answer of how to get out of this mess or where things are headed .

I hear people now talking about leaving america to go else where , fine if you have the funds and resources I suppose .

It is also disheartening to find all the protest efforts did not seem to change anything when no one listens to the people .

I am just trying to figure out where I fit into all of this madness and what with remains of my life will become . Each person has to figure out a way to survive and find hope and this is something I have yet to wrap my mind around .
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 03:20 PM
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8. One of the consequences of BushCo is/ is being/ will be
a new wave of dedicated activists. And while so far our protests don't seem to have changed policy, you have to know the pressure is on and not only that, but we are building a network, a much needed network that didn't exist in the 90s.

The election reform movement is strong.

The human and civil rights movement is having a renaissance.

The conservation movement is getting support and becoming a topic of day to day conversation that isn't limited to clubs or classrooms.

I see younger and younger folk out at the actions I attend. It's heartening and while George Bush and his corrupt, criminal handlers have gotten hundreds of thousands of people dead, they have also spurred hundreds of thousands of people to re-engage in political and social and global welfare. They will not win this one.

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Bjornsdotter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 02:51 PM
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4. I hear you



I spent a lot of time in Sweden during the Vietnam years and got a completely different perspective than my peers here did. the difference was/is still amazing.

One note....during the Watergate years I told my teacher something about Nixon and she called me a liar and tried to have me suspending for talking bad about the president. My Mom came to school and backed up what I said.

"there are none so blind as those that will not see"

Cheers

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Cheney Killed Bambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 03:18 PM
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7. What else have they done?
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