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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 08:30 PM
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Kucinich: Nancy Pelosi was wrong to block impeachment
 
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:14 PM
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1. K&R & Impeach To ReUnite Us Again
Yes, I said reunite the nation (and the Dem party) through impeachment.

The beltway "conventional wisdumb" of "No! It's too divisive! (squawk)" is -- as usual -- the opposite of reality.

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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:24 AM
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3. Totally agree!!! I know Republicans who constantly refer to
Bush as King George and are fed up with both parties.

:(
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:20 PM
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2. "What kind of offense would it take?"
Good question, Dennis. If we can't impeach Bush and Cheney for:

-lying about weapons of mass destruction
-lying about ties between Iraq and Al Qu'aida
-outing a covert CIA operative
-illegal rendition and torture of suspects
-illegally wiretapping the entire country
-politicizing the Justice Department

... then WHAT would it take to impeach an elected official?
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:29 AM
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4. Too bad Dennis did not get more time in the debates to make
this point...we are SO controlled by big money interests through our "free press."

:(

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Harry Monroe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:35 AM
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19. We already know what it takes to impeach a president.
Who among us will volunteer themselves to hide under Chimp's desk in the Oval office and give him a hummer??
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desertflamingo Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 03:13 PM
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26. eeeeeewwwww!!!!
*cough cough* GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAG!!!

just sayin'... no thanks. :puke:
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:26 PM
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40. Um...
...f**king an intern and lying about it, evidently.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 02:09 AM
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5. .
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From The Left Donating Member (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:25 AM
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6. Dennis Kucinich is CORRECT!
Speaker Botox, like Dianne Feinstein, is a war profiteer. She wasn't going to get herself boxed in and her finances become fodder for her GOP critics if she had ordered the Articles of Impeachment.

Never before have we seen a House Speaker say, "Impeachment is off the table," followed by "Bush isn't worth impeaching."

Pelosi was afraid that someone would connect the dots, follow the money and her investments would be made public.
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NikolaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 07:19 AM
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7. K&R
This is one of the reasons why I am still going to vote for him. I cannot, in good conscience, vote for the other two.
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FREEWILL56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 03:55 PM
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31. Yes, it is a sad state of affairs
and I agree with you. We are being expected to be loyal to the democratic nominee, but our party seems to be failing at having any loyalty for what's right by the people just as the repukes have been doing. They have been violating their oaths along with bush and cheney and Dennis is the only one who was willing to call them on their antiamerican activities. We have less to fear of the likes of Osama when terrorists are already controlling our government. I will cast my vote for Dennis and don't blame me if somebody you don't like gets the white house for our party allows this to happen with sidetracking real candidates by interests contrary to me, our party, democratic ways, and the country. What a mess our party is in as it's well on its way to looking like the repuke party.
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 08:36 AM
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8. kr
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 08:50 AM
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9. Sounds like Pelosi is getting advice
from Bob Shrum or Karl Rove. Both do their best to help the GOP win elections.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 09:07 AM
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10. K & R n/
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 09:54 AM
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11. Cheap stunt
Dragging his hot wife with him every place he goes just so guys will pay attention.

Not sure if women will pay attention, except to say "Ëewwww! Check out the age gap."

Or is there a genuine reason why Elizabeth K had to be involved in this interview?
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 09:58 AM
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12. PS I don't disagree with what Dennis says
PPS That coffee table is ugly!
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 10:18 AM
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13. You DO know she's an activist in her own right, correct?
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 10:48 AM
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15. ...and the wife & coffeee table have WHAT to do with this discussion?
Talk about easily distracted!
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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:29 PM
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22. Poor wee mannie,
has no one told you that sexism is passe? (Oh...you might be one of those unfortunates struggling with sex addiction. If so, pardon me.)

NO ONE drags Elizabeth Kucinich anywhere, and her physical beauty is completely irrelevant in this and most other contexts. She is an activist, and an intelligent person. She is the life partner of an equally intelligent man. BOTH of these people have the moral and ethical courage to continue to advocate for impeaching the criminal Bush cabal.

By the way, I hear that modern cures for sex addicts are quite effective.
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 10:42 AM
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14. adress the issue.
what is your stand on pelosi taking impeachment off the table?
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 10:54 AM
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17. I kind of hoped she didn't really mean it.
I agree that Congress should do its job of oversight vis-a-vis the Executive branch.

Apparently there is another school of thought which is all about moving on from the Bush-Cheney era.
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 01:45 PM
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24. Another school of thought which is in direct contradiction to the Constitution...
...and which would simply sweep under the rug the deaths of 4,000 of our own troops (and counting), and the deaths of a million Iraqis, all in the name of bringing democracy to the Middle East.

America is not immune to the same scenarios which have brought down other empires: Rome and Germany come to mind.

For your edification: I suggest that you Google "Elizabeth Kucinich," and listen to this lady expressing herself. She's young, but she's quite evolved in her own right, and has done things in her short life that most of us will never do in a tenth of the time. That she is beautiful, there is no denying. The use of the word "hot," however, says a great deal more about your level of personal evolvement than it does about Mrs. Kucinich.
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:08 PM
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32. the only way out is through.
we SHOULD have learned that from the 60's assassinations, nixon, watergate, etc. you can't sweep it under the rug and come out ahead. there is a secret government at work and the dems are complicit in it and it has nothing to do with democracy or the constituion.
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wintersoulja Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:38 PM
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36. forgive and forget
sweet.
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ashandaurynsgramma Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 01:33 PM
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23. cheap stunt ?
his wife stands by him and supports him. They are a lovely couple. I don't know anyone who has said,"euw".
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:35 PM
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34. Do you say this too about Bill Clinton, Michelle Obama and Elisabeth Edwards?
I would think (and hope) not. :eyes:
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 05:07 AM
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44. She is sitting there totally silent
I don't like to see a spouse sitting next to a candidate while the candidate is being interviewed.

Either it is a political interview - in which case the candidate should be there alone.

Or it's a lighter human interest angle - in which the spouse should also be allowed to talk.

Like 16 years ago when the Clintons went on 60 Minutes to talk about Bill's "affairs".

I remember John Kerry got in big trouble doing some joint interviews back in 2004.

The reporter would ask Kerry a question and then Teresa Heinz would immediately respond!
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 05:31 PM
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46. Is there any other reason, perhaps a logical, besides that you don't "like" it?
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MsMagnificent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 09:16 PM
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42. Why SHOULDN'T he take his wife with him
as do all the other candidates (well, in Hillary's case -- take her husband with her)?

As for his wife being 'hot' -- should she uglify herself up to please certain shallow people?
And besides, thinking people or even people who have been paying the slightest bit of attention will pay attention to Dennis Kucinich whether his wife is there or not, hot or not.

Or, as you contend, women are so shallow that they cannot comprehend an age gap, that it's SO unusual? That a good percentage of the population have May-December relationships, and they are automatically, completely abhorred?
--by women, at least?

Cheap stunt?! Your post was nothing but a cheap shot and sexist to boot!
Either you are very shallow or you think the the whole of the Democratic population is extremely shallow;

or both.
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 10:53 AM
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16. He's exactly right...what WOULD it take??
If we ignore what bush has done...just what would it take to bean impeachable offense (besides a BJ)?

SO glad to see Dennis....I'm so sorry he had to drop out but totally understand...we can't lose his voice!!
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Summer93 Donating Member (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 10:57 AM
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18. Kick and Recommend
The actions of Pelosi are the same as the *bushco to make the Constitution of the U.S. inoperable, of no consequence. Her actions did in one short statement what this administration has been doing with it's every move. All those signing statements, all the lies were a lead up to Nancy's action - "Impeachment is off the table"

Her actions will go down in infamy for most distruction with the least effort.
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zazzle Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:46 AM
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20. Dennis - you were wrong!
to endorse the ONLY candidate to state Bush and Cheney had not done anything that warranted impeachment!!

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-06-28-obama-impeachment_N.htm

No other candidate went that far - but Obama is THE ONE promoted by the Corporate Owned Media and DC establishment.

Dennis - you are a disappointment!
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:52 AM
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21. Dennis hasn't endorsed anybody.
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 02:50 PM
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25. I support Dennis, but I was also put off when he threw his support...
...to Obama in (I think) the Iowa primary. Dennis made a strong public statement that it was for that caucus only, and that he would continue in later primaries to get votes for himself.

His reasoning, I think I recall his saying, was that John Edwards had voted for the IWR. I'm convinced, personally, that Obama would have voted for it, too, if he had been in the Senate at the time. Everything he's done since seems to support that feeling.

I think it's very important to continue to make the point that Obama doesn't think Bush/Cheney have committed impeachable offenses.

I haven't heard Hillary make any such statement publicly, but her whole stance tells me she would not support impeachment, for purely personal, political reasons. To be fair, she would be accused of revenge motives if she did support impeachment.

Too bad things are not always completely pure and clear in politics!
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 03:43 PM
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30. Dennis said he felt Obama is sincere, more so than Edwards?
which is what I read into his reply.

None of the top three were interested in holding this administration accountable :(

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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:11 PM
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33. You're absolutely right. Dennis stands alone in his efforts to hold accountable...
...this unelected, criminal administration. A voice crying in the wilderness, unfortunately.
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desertflamingo Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 03:37 PM
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29. amen to that.
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:39 PM
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37. I don't recall your candidate standing up for impeachment either...
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:38 PM
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35. That was only in Iowa, Mr. Rove!
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NikolaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 07:20 PM
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41. What Bu$hit!
Edited on Mon Feb-04-08 07:25 PM by NikolaC
He NEVER endorsed anyone. Just keep repeating that tired old meme. Dennis has explained his Iowa strategy time and again, but some instigator inevitably pops up out of the nether to repeat that story anyway.

Edited to soften the tone ;).
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focusfan Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 03:21 PM
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27. I agree with him 100%
he seems agaitated at speaker Pelosi
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 03:34 PM
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28. Thanks for the K&R's and replies :) n/t
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 05:52 PM
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38. K&R! DAMN STRAIGHT! Your rock Dennis!
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scytherius Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:18 PM
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39. Of course
Well of COURSE she was wrong to block it. She and Reid have been the key enablers of the Repug party. We can only hope they are replaced, or that Pelosi is beaten in her Congressional Primary.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 04:08 AM
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43. Goddamn Right.
Kucinich speaks the truth.
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ToughLuck Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:50 PM
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45. Dennis is a hero to me..Pelosi needs to get the hell out..when you say impeachment is off the table
Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 03:52 PM by ToughLuck
you are giving blanket immunity...way to go Pelosi..take Reid with you too. I keep emailing these two failures, never get a response about impeachment.
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