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kad7777 Donating Member (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 11:17 AM
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JOE BIDEN on renewable energy
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 02:29 PM
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1. When I've looked into Biden's stance on the environment, I've been pleasantly
surprised. For some reason that I can't really fathom, I assumed he wouldn't be as knowledgeable as I would have hoped.

But I've learned that not only does he understand the severity of the problem (he's the only one - I THINK - who I've heard even mention the threat of rising oceans, for example), he's clearly given serious thought and consideration as to what we can do now, and in the future.

I wasn't aware of the amendment (bill?) he introduced that he referred to in this clip, but I DO know he's sponsored legislation to finance R&D into lithium battery options. He isn't just focusing on getting more mpg per gallon of gas and thinking that takes care of it.

He said if he becomes president, he would immediately require that all new federal government building be green, proposing that states would soon follow, the "green" industries locally would grow, etc.

Anyway, as with the other issues facing us today, I'm reassured that Biden is on top of it, and will consult those who have expertise (Gore??? :7)
to ensure we are doing the very best we can for our country and our planet.

HAVE TO SAY -- it's so weird watching him read from a prepared statement - I don't think I've ever seen him do that -- usually just talks extemporaneously on a subject.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 03:12 PM
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2. "Watch what's coming."
You bet! Biden knows that the big boys will swoop in and take as big a piece of the alternative fuel pie as they can ~ it really is important for communities to protect their investments.

Nice post ~ thanks!
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jph wacheski Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 09:53 AM
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3. I'm not convinced, .
Bio fuel is a good idea, as it is renewable, and does less to upset the carbon balance,. as the plants grow they absorb carbon that is produced when they are burned,. much more BALANCED than burning fossil fuels where the offset of carbon happened a million years ago.

However Bio fuels are not a solution to the problems we have today,. our problems come from an economic system that does not face reality. Capitalism is based on the assumption of endless growth,. yet endless growth is not possible on a finite planet. Until this societal retardation is addressed little progress is possible. As 'industry' began to get kick-backs from the gov. for producing and selling bio fuels the price of corn and other foods rises. Mexican people, many with tinny incomes, suffered a steep rise in corn prices last year and this is attributed to america buying corn for ethanol. ( whats next the wor for the corn fields! )

I would rather hear talk about curbing americas radical over-consumption! It is not so much that we will end up loosing stuff we think we need,. we simply need to change a lot of what and how we do things,. Permaculture is the path forward for human survival. produce stuff locally, organically, and from local people,. this build community as well as saving on the ludicrous amounts of shipping that goes on today,. we need to be using the last of the oil to build systems that can be sustained with out the oil.., is that not just logic?

How did we ever let crazy people who can not even acknowledge that a finite resource will one day run out run the show???
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