Ed Show: Jonathan Turley 'People Selling Us Torture Should Have Been Investigated as War Criminals'

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MSNBC The Ed Show w/ ED SCHULZ - May 12, 2011: McCain says torture is simply immoral and Prof. Turley says the arguments in favor of torture are shameful.

TURLEY: "Like many civil libertarians, I've said for years that the President is making a terrible, terrible mistake by effectively blocking the prosecution of torture. Both Attorney General Holder and President Obama have made it clear that they don't want people prosecuted for torture, and even Sen. McCain has said that, that he believes the President should say that no one should be prosecuted.

I'm afraid that's just not how it goes. You know, principles have consequences. They come with responsibilities. They're not always convenient. You can't say something's a crime, even a war crime, but say we don't believe people should be prosecuted because they 're people who were trying to 'help' us."

[pacalo]

1. Very good segment!

[Iwillnevergiveup]

2. I would love to see

any of the FoxNoiseMachine nincompoops take McCain to task for his comments. I have been utterly sickened by all of the stunts McCain has pulled in years past, but he did a very good thing today.

K&R

[Enthusiast]

4. FoxNoise will probably completely ignore it.

Since it would be to their detriment to attack him. You know, filthy bastards that they are.

[ScottLand]

3. AND if we don't deal with it now, we deal with it the next time we

have a Repub administration.

[Enthusiast]

5. Considering the insanity

we have witnessed in this nation since 2000 how long will it be before they pull you in for a bit of torture because you are suspected of being an atheist, gay, a liberal, a communist, a socialist, a practitioner of a banned minority religion or a member of a trade union.

Torture is illegal. And torture is wrong. Bush is wrong. Cheney is wrong. Rumsfeld is wrong.

[ScottLand]

6. Maybe (hopefully) McCain's latest statement will back them

off of it a bit. My concern has always been the acquiescence of the American people, who believe it's making us safe, and it's just a little water in the face, right? We need to be better about pointing out that besides waterboarding, enhanced interrogation includes slamming heads against walls, sleep deprivation, etc. This is a very serious threshold we are standing on.

[Enthusiast]

7. Exactly.

Limbaugh likened enhanced interrogation techniques as similar to fraternity hazing. Of course fraternity hazing is bad enough, lol. But enhanced interrogation is far beyond any fraternity hazing.

[certainot]

8. our universities put their sports on radio stations selling CLUB GITMO stuff for limbaugh- must end

thanks for bringing up limbaugh- no one has done more to make torture acceptable again than limbaugh, as point man for the right wing think tank-managed talk radio megaphone.

and it is idiotic that the left ignores that coordinated 1000 station megaphone while trying to deal with the symptoms, like torture becoming acceptable/rationalized to enough people that the bush crime family can get away with it.

[Dragonfli]

13. And The choice to make torture a crime that will not be prosecuted is wrong as well

It completely nullifies the law.
Without penalties, charges or arrests it is effectively legal.

If it can't be prosecuted then the law is no longer a law and no longer on the books other than as a quaint reference to a time when it was considered wrong and prosecutable.

It no longer means anything at all.
It is no longer a prosecutable offense, it must be considered a very minor offense indeed by Holder and Obama.

By contrast, smoking a joint is a much worse crime it would appear, they still prosecute that one.

[slipslidingaway]

9. knr nt

[slipslidingaway]

10. Last line - "You Can't Say Something Is A War Crime BUT... We Don't Believe People ...

Should Be Prosecuted"

[JEB]

11. I'd like

to see Turley on the SCOTUS. He knows the law.

[defendandprotect]

12. True -- public has to wake up to the fact that this is about controlling populations ....

not about terrorists --

What does the US government have in mind?