Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah): Federal Child Labor Laws Are Unconstitutional

[LuckyTheDog]

Run time: 03:47 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrkZKgol0Wc   Posted on YouTube: January 05, 2010 By YouTube Member: mikelee2010 Views on YouTube: 465   Posted on DU: January 15, 2011 By DU Member: LuckyTheDog Views on DU: 730

 

[opihimoimoi]

1. Another GOPer with a Loser on an idea...where do they find these guys???

[silverweb]

2. Is what he said accurate or not?

I'm not particularly interested in his point of view, but I am interested in the accuracy of his statements and his recitation of history.

[beyurslf]

8. he is correct up to a point in what he cites in history. Specifically, the case

Hammer v Dangenhart was the name of the case and Court did strike down the law. However, the law in question banned the transportation of goods made by children across state lines. And, the court later overturned this decision in a series of decisions that sided with the Hammer dissent.

So, sure, he correctly quotes a law and cites the Court case where that law is overturned. One could do the same thing in saying it is correct to have separate facilities for blacks and whites (Plessy v Ferguson), just so long as you ignore future decisions that repudiate the first.

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hammer_v._Dagenhart>

[silverweb]

9. Thanks!

I also got my answer in a segment on either Countdown or Rachel Maddow tonight, can't remember which show it was right now.

The answer confirmed my suspicion. When the RW spouts history, they're invariably either (1) fabricating or (2) distorting in some way.

With them, I don't "trust but verify," but rather "expect disinformation and dig for truth."

Thanks for your response!

[Lint Head]

3. This fool is ignorant. Child slavery or the nicer term child labor

was and should have been ended by this federal government and should be ended world wide. This prick is sick, period!

[TheMadMonk]

4. Personally I think child labour has it's place, although a textile mill most...

...certainly isn't one of them.

As kids, we (in my township) were lucky enough to have a tomato grower nearby who was perfectly willing to pay kids at exactly the same rate as he paid adults (50c per 50 lb crate picked and no skin off anyone's nose.) TODAY. More salt:- that rate was for sauce/ketchup not market/table tomatoes.]

Old Cummo kept an entire generation in ciggie & pinnie money, and quite probably the Crystal Cafe in business.


Casual and able to walk away from the job (and wages - some lessons MUST be learnt) at any time? No problem. Anything with a contract and performance requirements? Serious reservations, even for odd proffessions like child actor.

[alp227]

5. I've never heard of this guy, but I heard about his remarks on Hartmann today

looked him up on Wikipedia. Newly elected Teabagger. HAH! Maybe Amy Chua (the Chinese-American mother who boasts about her restrictive parenting in her new book) might be Lee's new chief of staff.

Meanwhile I wonder when Mike Lee will say that the PATRIOT Act is unconstitutional. Or corporate personhood. But noooo...we've gotta worry about CHILD LABOR!

[madrchsod]

6. my god is this thing really fucking stupid.

what is worse is that people actually elected this thing to represent them.

[TheMadMonk]

7. Disingenuous is disingenous mate. I don't like it when words...

...are put in my mouth and you won't find me cheering your doing it to anyone else.

Senator Lee may well be an idiot, and his choice of argumentative material most certainly suggests it, but he does not actually say he favours child labour, (in fact he expresses rather a strong opinion against it) what he said was that the Supreme Court found the first itterration of federal child labour laws to be unconstitutional.

Consider yourself spanked.


Now, I also happen to understand where Lee's coming from, and what he's shooting for. Which is pretty much maintaining the status quo which allows a business concern which operates across multiple states, to cherry pick for the most favourable commerce laws from amongst those states' laws.

Right now, the separation of state and federal powers works on the principle of lowest common denominator. Incorporate in Delaware, screw the customer in California, litigate in Boston.


Call attention to the actual problem, don't play the smear game.