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thomhartmann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 07:40 PM
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Thom Hartmann - How long will before they call for all Muslims to wear crescents on their clothing?
 
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 07:58 PM
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1. This republican PAC pig is a total lying asshole - Thom did a good job as always!
Edited on Mon Aug-23-10 07:59 PM by GreenTea
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 08:14 PM
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2. Typical rethuglican, is Mr. Wheeler.
Talking points, accusations, finger pointing, no understanding of history, left-wing media (the media hasn't been left wing for as long as I can remember, with a few notable exceptions. Good goddess on a cracker.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 08:32 PM
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3. Good question. I think there are plenty of people in this country
right now who have no problem having Muslims identified by a symbol of some kind. That's how well the fear propaganda has worked.

And it is frightening. But mostly I blame the media. People I know who are not that into politics have said to me 'can you believe they want to build a mosque on the site of 9/11'? That's all they get out of the coverage. When you explain a little of what is going on, most often they change their minds. We have the worst media in the civilized world. They do not deal with facts, they react to non-facts, and then treat them as if they are deserving of serious consideration. And the polls are a result of that.

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HillbillyBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 12:07 AM
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4. Yes Sabrina, you are correct, our fellow citizens have been
persuaded if not deceived into forgetting that this country was founded on freedoms of religion, speech, assembly, pursuit of happiness.
At least our early settlers were..even if they were agents of the English companies for fur, tobacco or minerals a very capitalistic system the companies got rich back in England and the Colonists survived or died according to what ever Fate had in store.
No matter what, backers in Europe got rich, our ancestors got some autonomy and even got very wealthy some times.

When I was in school we had extensive education in recognizing propaganda of the Soviet Bloc and how to recognize it and how to understand and neutralize it .. these folks are too f in nuts to talk to.
Now and even then there was propaganda aggrandizing the Capitalist meme we are the best, the free the brave. I wonder since we as a country are so afraid of terrorism..
I grew up in rural WV in the late 60s and through the 70s.
Why are our city kids unaware and ignorant of what advertising and propaganda are or mean?
I still see propaganda as a lie, it might be a big lie it might be a small lie..it is still a lie or a bunch of lies.

The current demonization of Muslims, Gays, Brown People is heinous and dangerous to our civil society.

I have been frightened of our country becoming like Germany, as Holocaust survivors told me of in the 70s (family members) and 90s(neighbors in Miami told me that the way things are going in the US 'feel' like Germany in the late 20's and early 30's.
Muslims become the scapegoats now, like others have been scapegoats before.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 02:36 PM
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7. You are so right. People have no idea that this country is
capable of using propaganda, as we were exposed to during the Bush administration. I watched in horror as people like Rudi Giuliani was accepted as a hero, even by some on the left who failed to do some basic research when they should have known the administration had an agenda.

I too have met people whose parents and grandparents survived the Holocaust and all have told me that this country's scapegoating of Muslims scared them and reminded them of what their parents had told them about Germany in the '30s.

I am encouraged by those who are speaking out, but it is not enough. And you are correct regarding education.

However I am hopeful that with enough people standing up, the effort to scapegoat will fail in the long run. And it isn't just Muslims as you point out. Mexicans have reason to fear now also.
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JustinL Donating Member (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 04:41 AM
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5. I see the hatemongers are still using the bogus "stand with the Muslims" quote
that was debunked by snopes in May of 2008.

I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.

This statement is a rewording of a passage from page 261 of The Audacity of Hope, in which Barack Obama spoke of the importance of not allowing inflamed public opinion to result in innocent members of immigrant groups being stripped of their rights, denied their due as American citizens, or placed into confinement, as was done with Japanese-Americans during World War II. The original contains no specific mention of "Muslims":

In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigrants in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific reassurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 10:06 AM
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6. And all of this started back in between wars,
With a man named Edward Bernays, Freud's nephew, the man who took his uncle's theories and his own ambition and learned how to manipulate public opinion. In my considered opinion, a man at least as dangerous as Hitler.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 03:17 PM
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8. kick and recommend!!
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