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Furiousliberal Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 03:05 AM
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Are illegal immigrants really taking American jobs
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Under the hot Southern California sun immigrant workers are picking the foods consumed by millions of Americans and people around the world.

It's a back breaking job not everyone's fit to do.

Most of these immigrant workers arrived in the United States illegally, some as far as Central America.

And many are oblivious to the political firestorm centered around them.

"This is about lawful citizens versus illegal invaders," said conservative radio host Tony Katz. "If you want to build a 50 foot fence, I'm in favor of the 50 foot fence."

"There's 11 million illegal immigrants in the United States, those can be American jobs, those could be taxpaying jobs," said Erik Spence, the founder of

But some industries, especially California's agriculture businesses, don't want Americans working for them.

"Se solicitan trabajadores," which translates to workers needed; this Spanish language sign is purposely aimed at immigrant workers -- a foreign born workforce making sure these strawberries make it to your table.

There's no need for interviews or long applications.Undocumented immigrants simply show up at a field and they're hired.

Many people, including former US President George W. Bush, admit immigrant workers do the jobs Americans refuse to do.

At a farm in Oxnard, a city just north of Los Angeles, laborers aren't convinced the average American could step in their shoes -- not even for a day.

"It's too hard right now for a white person it's too hard," said Ricardo Romero.

"No e visto a ninguno aqui trabajando en el fil. (I haven't seen any Americans here, working in the field)," said Sergio Guerrero.

Sergio Guerrero came into this country illegally through the Southern California desert. He makes a $1.90 for every box of strawberries he fills.

And now in an effort to employ out-of-work Americans and obviously to prove a point, the United Farm Workers Union is inviting American citizens to take the jobs of these farm workers.

"I wouldn't be surprised if after a day or two, they may find themselves appreciating the people who are taking their jobs," said Roman Pinal, a United Farm Workers Organizer.

When asked whether or not they would take a farm working jobs, many at the unemployment office said no.

"No because I don't even do gardening at my own house," said Wendy Mendoza, an unemployed American.

"If I had a job that got me some exercise with no heavy lifting and would pay more than 11 dollars an hour I would take it, but I doubt it, it usually involves a lot of heavy lifting and doesn't pay much," said Lynn Boom.

"They're farmers and they're willing to pay slave labor of course they have an advantage," said Katz.

Katz is among the growing number of supporters for an immigration crackdown.

He thinks the threat to the US isn't just financial.

"This is about people coming over with diseases that we've already eradicated, bringing them back into the US," said Katz.

"America has paid a significant price because of illegal immigration," said Spence

Spence thinks Americans will take the job of a farm worker, because an American will do what it takes to feed their family.

However, according to the United Farm Workers, so far only three people have taken up their offer to take immigrant jobs.

Despite sharp opposition to the Arizona Immigration Law here in Los Angeles, activist Erik Spence hopes to buy a huge billboard ad right here in the heart of L.A. that says we support Arizona.

A huge sign that this tension is far from over.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 03:22 AM
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1. Isn't the solution to make that job one that adheres to normal labor laws that pays a livable wage?
Edited on Wed Aug-11-10 03:26 AM by dkf
Yeah no American will take a job that pays less than the minimum wage with no benefits and no insurance. But that simply means we must make sure these jobs adhere to all labor laws with no funky exemptions allowing employers to treat people badly.

The best way to approach slave labor type conditions is to hire people who have no rights and are in peril of being deported should they protest bad treatment. And of course if you want to mistreat someone you wouldn't hire an American who can assert their rights and find a lawyer if need be.

Hell illegal immigrants won't even protest when they are dying of heat exhaustion. Now what asshole employer wouldn't prefer that to an American who will insist on not dying on the job and will take a necessary bathroom break?
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Alameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 06:39 AM
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3. you have some really good points there....
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 01:20 PM
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5. Exactly. "Jobs Americans won't do" my ass.
If you pay what it's worth, someone will do it.

And I'm not all for some crackdown on illegal immigrants or whatever, it's so much more important to demand that employers pay a living wage (or can we say at least a minimum wage?) but this "jobs Americans won't do" line is racist. Oh, Mexicans can do it, but white fokes can't. Them Mexicans got some hard backs for pickin'em strawberries.
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 06:39 AM
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2. i still say they need to go after the employers who are hiring the people who are here illegally.
and yes, they should make them adhere to the minimum wage laws. they can get away with this because people who are illegally here don't want to get in trouble and so are vulnerable. stop going after the workers..... go after the employers.
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:34 AM
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4. My white American Uncle picked fruit a lot of his life. He died of Melanoma at age 43
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