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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 10:26 AM
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Exploding Water of the Gulf
 
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http://www.wkrg.com/gulf_oil_spill/article/news-5-investigates-testing-the-water/906545/Jul-17-2010_10-19-am/
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 10:40 AM
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1. this is important, everyone should see it - including parents letting kids


play in the water and sand.

just asking for future health problems

actually its child abuse
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 11:24 AM
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2. It's ignorance and honesty first, it's abuse after being educated and someone gets honest with the
parents.

From what I've heard, a report like this is not common yet. Any parent who watches sports or a soap or a serial instead of watching this is abusing.

I think what we're going to learn about the methane gas will change all of our heads around. Even the teabaggers won't be able to enable the corporations. The President and Congress should get ready. They shouldn't be caught trying to increase their wealth from corporations and assosiations.

It's all chemistry from here forward for years and years to come.

We'll wake up about all the other spoils for greedy decisions and inherent arrogance.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 09:58 PM
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13. I can't call this child abuse...more like elected official abuse...
I'd bet that the parents are going by the directives of the local officials who aren't warning people about the conditions on the beaches and in the water. nor closing the beaches...the almighty dollar comes first.

I adore Jimmy Buffett and we were trying to budget in a trip to his new hotel in Pensacola, but I know us (my family) all to well...the lure of the sand, shore and the ocean would pull us away from the swimming pool at the hotel, and I can't see trying to lay out the cash to breath in poisons nor absorb them through the skin.

Bottom line is probably that the locals haven't closed the beaches and the parents probably don't read DU, nor other sites that have this info.
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 06:29 AM
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26. Come on down to the Gulf, tourists. The water is fine.
Edited on Mon Jul-19-10 07:05 AM by Cetacea
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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 11:34 AM
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3. dang... n/t
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adamuu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 11:54 AM
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4. I would like to see a test on tap water or DI water with each sample colored
with food coloring to blind the technician.

Just saying
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burnsei sensei Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 12:25 PM
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5. The composition of the water all over the Gulf should be tested
now for petroleum but most important, for methane.
What to do about this!

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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 12:46 PM
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6. WOW! And they're telling everyone the beaches are fine.
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sulphurdunn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 06:40 PM
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9. They also told everyone the air at ground zero
was fine after 9/11. :evilgrin:
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 08:17 PM
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33. What is amazing is that citizens of this country have not learned
the government will lie to us and does so routinely.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 06:17 PM
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7. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, kpete.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 06:36 PM
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8. Good reporting
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 07:21 PM
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10. K&R!!! n/t
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Shining Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 07:30 PM
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11. K&R
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ProgressOnTheMove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 08:20 PM
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12. I'm imagining that people can still enjoy the beaches the resorts should buy recliners and shades.
Edited on Sun Jul-18-10 08:22 PM by ProgressOnTheMove
Maybe set up outsdie pools near the beach so folks have an alternative. We shouldn't discourage tourists in this economy.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 10:49 PM
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14. Bull hockey. The Air is harmful too.
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PatrynXX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 12:13 AM
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17. air's fucked because of Corexit
probably some oil, but corexit..... I would have problems with that. OSHA has been corrupt for ages now, someone needs to give them their legs back.
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 10:18 AM
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32. true!
nt
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 11:01 PM
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15. The royal "we" didn't...
this is squarely on BP. They fucked up and made it so the economies in those areas are shot to hell.

Just sayin'.
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PatrynXX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 12:10 AM
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16. As I sometimes do had Fux News on the other day
had a mention about the reservations at hotels skyrocketing now that the dumb thing is capped and the idiots there saying the worst is over. Not hardly. I'd say swimming in Calcutta is safer.
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Geostudent Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 02:01 AM
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18. Sensationalist journalism
The separatory funnel and procedure he is doing is meant to extract something from water, this case oil, using some solvent. This always causes gasses to build up and is vented when you are doing the mixing. If you let it build up, it will spit at you. Not fun. If you let it sit long enough, or shake the crap out of it it could explode. He probably got lazy did not vent it and let it sit until it went boom.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 02:18 AM
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19. Um, no.
He said is was nearly instantaneous, maybe one second.

So letting it "sit until it went boom" would not be an option.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 02:28 AM
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20. Um, yes.
I've worked with those same type of funnels in a lab many times before. This shit can just happen for loads of reasons unrelated to what's being tested. There is no journalism here, just a load of crap, and the worst part is that people are treating it as if journalism was involved.
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Geostudent Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 02:31 AM
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21. The correct procedure..
is to invert it and vent it at the same time. The gases can actually build up very quickly. He didn't have to let it sit. Throw in a slight crack or chip on his glassware and it happens that much easier.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 07:02 AM
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27. Did you not get the part where they're going to test it again?
What about the rest of the tests...what no comment because it doesn't fit your narrative?

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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 09:43 AM
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30. I'd like to see them test other beaches around the country and other marinas.
The story is designed to leave the impression that these results are due to the BP event.

Things were probably somewhat bad before it, and marinas are always polluted if motor boats are there.

There was pollution out there before BP, we'll never know how much, though.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8385057
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 06:26 AM
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24. There is however, the small matter of kids swimming in polluted water
Nice way to gloss over 99 percent of that report.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 02:32 AM
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22. k and r
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tclambert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 05:38 AM
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23. Glass bottles at the beach? Where the kids are playing barefoot?
They post those signs "NO GLASS BOTTLES" for a reason.
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 06:27 AM
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25. They shouldn't even be in that water
Come on down to the Gulf, tourists. The water is fine.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 07:27 AM
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28. this oil spill is going to be felt for many many years.
again, screwing with the american public.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 09:24 AM
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29. Gotta call bullshit on this alarmist story. Sorry. First, where's the control sample?
Edited on Mon Jul-19-10 09:35 AM by NYC_SKP
Did they test for comparison any samples far from the well? I'd bet San Diego and North Carolina beaches have some PPM, and that pre-April samples might have had shed some light on this.

And, for that last shocking sample, go to any fucking marina, and see what your results are.

Outboard motors inject petroleum into the water BY DESIGN.

Marina samples get thrown out, prove nothing.

So, while the BP fuck up certainly has ruined water, habitat, and made beaches more dangerous, this totally unscientific mason jar study is alarmist by design.

Marina sample, petrol boats everywhere in a marina, you see oil slicks in marinas just from the boats there.

Seriously. :eyes:

ON EDIT: Adding the graphic below and comment:

Artificially blaming these results on this event give the false impression that without the event the beaches and water were fine, and that's probably bullshit. Miles and miles of pipeline and holes out there tell me that the water has probably been fucked up for years.



GULF OIL MESS, Years of abuse: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8385057

:patriot:
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 10:06 AM
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31. Not surprising given the footage we've seen of BP crews COVERING OIL ON BEACHES WITH SAND
fuckers!!
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