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Lars77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 10:44 AM
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"Israel lost at sea" (Haaretz)
 
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iandhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 10:52 AM
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1. vido shows soldiers defending themselves
but everyone always blames Israel first. I seems that the situation is a little more complicated.
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Lars77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 10:56 AM
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2. Just to put it in perspective for you..
When you rappel down onto a ship in international waters you really don't have a self defence claim. Obviously it's not smart to attack the soldiers, i would'nt do it, but they are essentially kidnapping foreign nationals in international waters to sustain an illegal blockade that is condemned by the United Nations.
Do you believe the IDF claims that they were carrying paintball weapons too?

Must be some pretty hard paintballs to kill all those people.


One of my friends were on that ship, he's now in a jail in the Negev. So far NONE of the activists has been able to tell their side of the story. So let's just wait and see.
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 12:18 PM
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4. I totally agree with you. A question about the supposed paintball guns...
This is the most absurd thing I've ever heard... the claim that they were carrying paintball guns.

No one, as far as I know, has asked the follow-up question: What, precisely, were the IDF planning to do with those items? I want to know, in detail, what the plan was. There is no answer to this that isn't ludicrous, on its face.

I think the IDF is MOCKING the citizens of the world with this claim. "UH....uh....they were uh.....paintball guns. Yeah......that's it." Made it up out of whole cloth. Christ almighty!!!!

And for anyone who assumes this can possibly be true, the IDF has even less of a defense.

I want to ask anyone here: Would you walk into a bank carrying a toy pistol OR a paintball gun? Would you? I think if you did, you'd risk being shot by the security guard. Christ! You can't even go into a bank wearing a hooded sweatshirt and sunglasses.

The IDF had weapons. The civilians defended themselves. End of story.

Lars: I'm sorry about your friends. I hope they are released soon.



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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 11:13 AM
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3. Complicated if you have to torture logic to defend the mutherfuckers.
What a fucking pantload.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 01:37 PM
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5. I love cries of "it's complicated" that exist to obscure violent acts. Support of Israel's RW is no
less disgusting than support of the US right wing.
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greiner3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 01:58 PM
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8. Reverse zionism!
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Ticonderoga Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 01:39 PM
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6. Fuck
The racist, apartheid state of Isreal. And Fuck the U.S. for supporting a terrorist nation.
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 01:55 PM
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7. A good rundown on the ridiculous event. Thanks.
Israel's attack on the humanitarian ship is just another godawful event to add to the list of Israel's transgressions against humanity.
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web978 Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 02:17 PM
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9. A truly Greek Tragedy, Israel founded to prevent the Holocaust
Edited on Tue Jun-01-10 02:17 PM by web978
Only to be the creators of a Holocaust that will in the long run, overshadow and blot out the one they suffered themselves from. Becoming the very beasts the rallied against. It's just a matter of time. The entire region outnumbers them and will eventually swallow them. Instead of working toward mutual peace, they have chosen self destruction. The US cant really support them much longer, a simple fact.
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localroger Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 04:56 PM
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10. The weird lesson everyone seemed to take from WWII
...seems to be "Hey, those guys we beat might have WON! We need to be more like THEM!"

You'd think it would be more like, "Hey, we WON, we must have been doing something RIGHT!" But no, that might have made sense or something.
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