Midweek Politics: Christian Homeschooler Offended When Pressed by Host About Christian Curriculum

[celtics23]

Run time: 09:28 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMpxh-u4Aq8   Posted on YouTube: March 19, 2010 By YouTube Member: MidweekPolitics Views on YouTube: 453   Posted on DU: May 05, 2010 By DU Member: celtics23 Views on DU: 692

 
Christian homeschooler Mike McHugh touts Christian curriculum and young earth theories, is put in his place regarding his "moon dust" conspiracy by host David Pakman, and then claims to be "offended" when questioned about the validity of basing curriculum around a story of a man born to a virgin who died and came back to life.

There is an equally interesting part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bRsiasSrF8

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[aliciaabs19]

1. Right

The only thing offensive about the question is maybe that it was asked sarcastically, but the content is 100% valid...these kids show up in college way behind in science and history.

[tins0404]

2. Honestly

There's nothing offensive about the question. What's offensive is putting those kids through Christian homeschooling.

[Clintonista2]

5. "these kids show up in college way behind in science and history."

most of them probably end up going to jerry falwell-type colleges that continue teaching crap like that. It's sad that they grow up so ignorant.

[TheEuclideanOne]

7. I would exect that to be true in most cases

The host, however, should have had some scientific basIS, not just a few emails, to support his viewpoint. Without it, he appeared to be totall pwned. I am guessing that there must be some studies out there and a bit of homework would probably changed the whole tone of the conversation. I am pretty sure that the guest's opinion would not be swayed even if there was a study, but to make a claim without any real evidence makes the host look unprofessional IMHO.

[grantcart]

3. As there are two different creation stories in Genesis he should ask

him which one he thinks is the authoritative one.

[Tansy_Gold]

4. "Christian Liberty Academy" of Arlington Heights, Illinois,

is housed in my old high school.

I took an unguided tour a couple of years ago, on a Saturday when no classes were in session, and it creeped me out.

These people are completely out of touch with reality, and they are bringing hundreds of kids up in a bizarre fantasyland so that they are essentially unfit for living in the real world. They have no concept of how the real world really works.


They are scary. Very scary.



Tansy Gold, who is scary too but not in the same way

[Ian David]

6. Coal Beds, Creationism, and Mount St. Helens

Copyright © 1996-1997 by Keith Littleton


I failed to realize how much the facts concerning the volcanic eruption at Mt. St. Helens have been abused and misused by creationists until I read the series of articles on June 15, 1996 at http://www.pacificrim.net/~nuanda/origins/Origins.html .

This web page contains many of the misinterpretations, misrepresentations, and factual distortions that creationists have concocted surrounding the eruption at Mt. St. Helens. The most striking aspect of these web pages is the total lack of any citations or references for the claims being made. An excellent example of such misinformation is the page concerning the formation of coal found at http://www.pacificrim.net/~nuanda/origins/CoalBeds.html .

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There are indeed eastern (e.g., Pennsylvanian) coals dominated by bark. However, there the similarity ends as demonstrated by uncompressed plant material preserved in coal balls (DiMichele et al. 1986). First, studies of both coal balls and the enclosing coal clearly shows that woody tissue is either a dominant or major constituent of the coals of the eastern United States. In addition to woody material, significant amounts of herbaceous roots and foliage (leaves) comprise the eastern (Pennsylvanian) coals, unlike the woody material that has accumulated at the base of Spirit Lake (DiMichele et al. 1986).

Finally, the coal balls studies show that the tree bark within the Pennsylvanian coal is of different origin, being derived from large lycopod trees rather modern hardwoods. The Lycopods consist of a soft, spongy interior surrounded by a relatively solid, woody outer cylinder. After a lycopod tree dies, the interior quickly decays, leaving the outer shell to collapse into the swamp and become incorporated into the peat where it later becomes coal. Thus, the outer shell of the lycopod is preferentially preserved. As a result, the eastern Pennsylvanian coals are rich in so-called bark. The presented intact root systems and paleosols clearly show that the overwhelming majority of eastern Pennsylvanian coals formed in place (DiMichele et al. 1986, Gardner et al. 1988, and Wnuk 1989).

The same stiff outer woody bark and inner soft spongy woody structure of the lycopods is one reason why Carboniferous polystrate trees (e.g., at Joggins, Nova Scotia) are casts, while the Mesozoic and Tertiary polystrate trees (i.e. at Yellowstone) are carbonized and silicified trunks. Austin and other creationists fail to explain how the Spirit Lakes trees turn into Joggins-type casts after burial. This is important because Gastaldo (1990) shows that the formation of these casts require the alternation of flooding and subaerial exposure to form. The presence of cross-bedded and laminated sediments within the casts precludes the formation of these casts as the result of continuos deposition (Gastaldo 1990).

More:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/mtsthelens.html