I just mean that the comparison of JM's plan and the current plan is not fair or accurate. Every progressive site is making this comparison - it's not helpful or true. I'm as pissed at Obama as the next progressive. But I think propagating headlines that are not accurate is not helpful and just serves to further inflame our already inflamed nerves.
We can think about ponies. At a certain point, there will be no point of recovery and we may already be there. Massachusetts needed to be a wake up call and every day it is starting to seem more and more like we are just not going to wake up. I would rather close my eyes and think about ponies than watch this train wreck.
That would have been on the military as well? That is what across the board implies.
But Obama wants to have some hybrid McCain policy while preserving certain spending, excising other spending, but an overall reduction in a time where government spending needs to increase significantly?
Tell you what. Let's just zero the budget and let President Obama pick what we will spend on and he can dole out government dollars as he sees fit, so people will more clearly know who to send their campaign donations to.
I am pretty sure, President Obama is not a member of the legislative branch that is supposed to control the purse strings of the budget. Does he know that?
Listen, I don't even know if I am right about this. Speaking about the budget at this level is not my thing, I just don't know enough at the moment. I intend to get educated real fast though but something smells rotten in Camelot.
25. tridim, it was not only Bush. Unless you can properly identify
the causes of our current problems, you are helping fewer people than you otherwise could.
It is not about 8 or 9 years of Bush economic policy. It is about at least 3 decades of conservative economic policy. Just because a Dem does it does not make it right. President Obama is reinforcing conservative worldview and economic principles. Is that alright with you?
I'm as disappointed as anyone with the compromises but I think it's a huge mistake to turn on him now and risk letting the Repubs regain control. Constructive pressure is good. All this vitriol is not at all helpful or progressive.
37. Absolutely not without reason did I bring that up.
I was on the way to the doctor this morning and heard on Seattle Progressive Radio am1090 the hourly news cap which was full of White House slant about the SOTU announcement, YES IT WAS THE SAME MESSAGE I HAVE HEARD attributed to the Obama admin. They made a couple additional comments that irritated me to extreme but seemed to just be a part of the announcement. I will try my best to remember how it was precisely phrased but something like "the Bush tax cuts are very popular and unlikely to be allowed to end."
Tell you what though, I am glad you questioned it. I will call up the am1090 employee in charge of news who I have expressed my displeasure with before and ask her to either confirm it or stop the bullshit. Will not be the first time I have contacted them.
Know what though, I have a strong feeling it was accurate and reflects the Obama admin's attitudes. Won't stop me from raising a ruckus though, k, tridim.
when you heard bullshit or you just feel comfortable laughing at DU'ers? I keep hearing bullshit from the Obama White House. When the media says exactly what the White House is arguing that contains two statement that I even have the gall to question, you laugh at me? I don't even know some White House staffer didn't say it, I just had the nerve to question it. And most people would just assume the full stream of bullshit was from the Obama admin, but I questioned it.
I told you the source and it was only a couple hours ago and I am irritable at the moment and I may be misreading you but wtf is your problem?
46. tridim, I made one IF STATEMENT and I have always done my best to represent
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myself and others with honesty even when it hurts. And tridim, I said "if Obama doesn't let the Bush bonuses die." Why does that bother you so much?
I admit to hearing an idea on progressive radio and that is funny, whatever. I treat your question respectfully and you mock me. I don't think you are interested in an honest discussion, go see for yourself who is advocating those "tax cuts" not end. President Obama would never listen to those people, would he?
SO YOU ARE 100% CERTAIN they will? We'll see and I believe without doubt that if they do let those tax cuts die, pressure from us will have made a difference.
39. I appreciate what you are saying, this may be a counter argument.
Wall Street, the TBTF Big Banks, TBTF Big Insurers, PhRMA and the Military Profiteers have been given every consideration and comfort, not so much the middle and lower classes.
Now that it is extremely clear we are in a Great Recession or worse and are continuing conservative economic policies, cutting public spending should be off the table, but it isn't, is it. Not only should be not be cutting, but we should be talking another stimulus and fast tracking spending of dollars set aside from the last.
In addition, the President is reinforcing the conservative worldview that government spending is something that must be cut even during a recession. President Obama has conceded to playing by the conservatives' rules for Dems without so much as a fight.
The Two Santa Claus Theory also explains how Dems just walked into the Republican's trap.
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