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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 10:16 PM
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Howard Dean: The Message Of Massachusetts Election Results Is "We Gotta Be Tougher"
 
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He also says "The Republicans have wanted to kill the health Care Bill from the beginning simply to embarrass the President. The President was elected to lead and the way we're going to get through this is he's going to lead. We're not going to deal with the special interests or the Republican's anymore, who have become their own special interests".

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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 10:17 PM
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1. Good message from Dean!
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Lifelong Protester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 10:18 PM
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2. Dean's right. Gloves off. Quit trying to 'play nice'
they aren't and they won't. Enough of this inclusive claptrap. Get the change ON.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 10:21 PM
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3. Yeah, enough of the "Mr Nice Guy" strategy, already.
Edited on Tue Jan-19-10 10:31 PM by Turborama
As you said, it's beyond time to take the gloves off.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 10:23 PM
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4. Yeah, it'd be great if what Dean says were to come to pass....
... but I expect Obama will huddle-up with Lieberman and Olympia Snowe to see what they'll allow him to do.
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Reform Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 10:25 PM
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5. Howard Dean: Senate Health Care Bill Written By Insurance Industry
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZZFwGXKPuA

Airing Date Jan.19, 2010

Howard Dean: Senate Health Care Bill Written By Insurance Industry
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nightrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 10:30 PM
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7. thanks for posting the video. Well, if Obama et al get the message and "get to work", then
he'll have us all there with him, but if he continues with the corporate protection racket, then we will go elsewhere. I think Dems are saying, "Enough of this sucking up to corporations, act for us!"
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 10:25 PM
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6. Steps #1 & #2 . . .

Obama needs to shed his Rumsfelds... Timothy Geithner and Rahm Emanuel.
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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 10:32 PM
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8. Preach on, Brother Dean!
n/t
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 10:38 PM
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9. K & R. But I fear Dems will go even further along the right wing, corporate path instead.
They'll take away exactly the wrong message, and you know the right wing media and MSM will push the "she lost because she was too far left" frame.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 10:42 PM
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10. Why won't anybody in our leadership listen to Dean?
He's right. He's absolutely right. I want to see a Democratic Party with some damn muscle, a Democratic Party that fights for us, for Democrats, not a Democratic Party that moves to the right of "center" and pushes the country EVEN FURTHER right.


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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:19 PM
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13. Because the DLC cooperate democrats despise Dean - They wouldn't even consider
Edited on Tue Jan-19-10 11:24 PM by GreenTea
Howard Dean for a cabinet position or any place else in this corporate friendly DLC administration.

The DLC Democrats are much more in line with corporate conservative blue dog democrats than they are with progressive democrats like Howard Dean and the Democratic party will continue to pay big time for not accepting the very popular progressive Democratic agenda.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 04:37 AM
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18. Because they'd have to take a long hard look at where they failed
and their ego's and arrogance won't allow it

And I am referring as much to the Congress as anyone else
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Barbara2423 Donating Member (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 10:46 PM
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11. I agree Obama and the Democratics wasted time trying
to get the Republicans on board. Hopefully they will wake up.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:10 PM
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12. the rethuglican agenda has always been to force Obama to fail. Period.
They are about not letting anything get done and Obama has allowed himself to get dragged down into fuckery by appointing those who are the problem to try to solve the problem.

He was given an overwhelming vote of confidence when he was elected because he ran on the notion of change. A year out, we have seen him totally lose his balls and get emasculated by a "low rent lipstick-wearing pigette" from fucking Alaska who has been the pin-up girl for the white supremacy party, a.k.a. teabaggers since John McCain didn't give enough of a fuck to vet her properly. This woman has set the discourse in this country and that is directly tied to the boldness with which these counterfeit beings dare, even threaten, the president to say anything about it.

He has waffled on health care and what he will accept. One day, he's not for a public option; the next day, he demands a public option--and back and forth.

He has not brought the hammer down on Geithner, Bernanke, Paulson, and the rest of the criminals on wall street--instead, he's practically on his knees, sucking their dicks while they steal trillions of tax payer dollars.

Obama is going to fail if he don't start opening up a can of "act right" and do what we sent him to Washington to do. There are too many stupid, single-issue voters who are willing to vote against their best interests and put the very same people who caused all of our problems back in the majority just so they can say "we got rid of the n______!!" And if our country allows this, then we deserve the fuckery that will soon follow behind it.

Too many stupid voters in Massachusettes have now voted in a thug senator who will fall into ranks with the rest of that knot of harebrains in the senate whose sole aim is to destroy the middle class, further enrich the corporations, steal all of the money in the treasury, send all jobs over seas and turn this country into a sea of walmart greeters.

Tomorrow, Obama's first move needs to be to fire Rahm mutha-effin' Emmanuel; his next move needs to be to fire Geithner and to withdraw his nomination of Bernanke if Bernanke isn't willing to do the job description for the head of the Fed and get rid of Summers and everyone else who were part of this whole Wall Street collapse.

The next step is to put the congress on notice that he's picked up a bat and is going to be doing batting practice on some heads if they don't get their shit together about passing health care REFORM with a public option.

The next step WE need to take is to start identifying the progressive candidates, like Alan Grayson and Anthony Weiner, and backing them with our dollars and our votes.

For christ's sake, enough is enough already.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 02:45 AM
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17. I wish I could recommend your post.
People want a leader who will lead. They don't want someone who can't be clear about his goals.

It's fine to compromise, but first you have to be 100% clear about what you are aiming for.

Then the people with whom you are going to compromise can make their counteroffers.

Your first offer should be your ideal, your biggest hope.

You compromise from there.

You don't make a side deal with the pharmaceutical industry and then hope you get a good shake on health care reform from the health care insurance companies. That may be the way that the D.C. insiders do things, but it is a losing strategy in real life.

And the first thing you do is get your dreams out there as goals and show the other side that you have the evidence or the votes or the public support to get what you want. From there, once you have established that you have the evidence or the votes or the public support, you can negotiate with your opponents and save them face so that they become less confrontational. The Obama administration has not handled negotiations in an intelligent manner. Either that or they are more complicit with the corporations than I would ever have thought possible.

Obama needs to indict a few crooks just to put some credibility in his promise to govern with integrity and without corruption. Only a corrupt leader has to be afraid that the next president will come after him if he pursues the corruption in the previous administration.
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ProgressOnTheMove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:27 PM
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14. Brown got the unions on his side and called himself independent more than he called himself ..
Edited on Tue Jan-19-10 11:32 PM by ProgressOnTheMove
Republican. Coakley was up against it even if she had run a good campaign big insurance put all their efforts behind Brown. We shouldn't blame Coakley I feel. ONe thing we do need to do is get ahead of the game in 2010 for any chance of more progress. Even I thought this was in the bag to begin with, I can easily see how Coakley felt that too. Complacency is something we can't do in November.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:38 AM
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15. kick and recommend
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Tanelorn Donating Member (162 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 02:04 AM
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16. What was Scott Brown's message tonight???
Apart from pimping his daughters and challenging Obama to 2 on
2 basketball the only other thing he said that he would try
and kill the HCR bill. Obama want's bipartisanship laudable
but too soon after the BushCo years. Bipartisanship will come
with strong decisive ,upfront leadership. A leadership that
talks to the better part of people and not to the fear
mongering of the last eight years. Obama has had just one year
, a record breaking legislative year I believe but one year
nevertheless.

Scott Brown will turn out to be a mental midget in a short
time. The Dems have to use their somewhat diminished  majority
but a majority still to show how great and innovative the US
can be.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 06:41 AM
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19. The lesson from last night is: No More Bipartisanship.
The GOP is desperate to make Obama fail, and they're willing to destroy the country further than they already have to do it.

Barack has to learn that you can't play nice with people that want to kill you.
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