TYT: Limbaugh Finally Got Obama - Or Did He?

[democracy1st]

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[Swede]

1. "little boy"

Not too subtle.

[Grassy Knoll]

2. CAUGHT !

[Andronex]

3. Why ?

Why should we as progressives be obsessed with people like Beck and Limbaugh? it does seem pointless until you understand that it frames the discussion within a very narrow range, for example it's no longer about real health care reform, it's now about a give away to big Pharma and the insurance company or the delusion of a paranoid RW, so now are we supposed to choose between these two? The Obama administration needs people like Limbaugh, it gives them cover to pursue the neocon agenda, they work as a tag team, but guess what and this should be a revelation for some, we don't have to chose between the democratic RW and the Loony right.

[Cirque du So-What]

4. Mein GOTT!!!111!!!

How DID we ever manage to function as a political discussion board - much less a political party - until YOU arrived to chastise us and show us the error of our ways? I was so confused that I could hide my own Easter eggs until you showed up!

[Andronex]

6. I've been a longtime reader of D.U.

and just now a new member, what attracted me to this forum is the level of intelligent discussion, and then there is the other stuff, such as the endless obsession of every stupid remark Glen Beck has ever made, gee how useful of us to point these things out, it's like the crowd booing the bad guy in a wrestling match, but guess what it's fake, after the "fight" both wrestlers go have a beer together, and the manager collects his money. Never mind...

[Cirque du So-What]

8. If you believe you've come across a hotbed of progressivism

you couldn't be more mistaken. This board has an active contingent of DLC supporters. There's also no shortage of detractors - from the left and the right - who slam everything Barack Obama does.

Fine. Do what you want. You may be the real deal, but when a progressiver-than-thou new person arrives and starts lecturing us on how we're all sheep, it sets my spidey senses to tingling. By all means, be even MORE contemptuous of everyone at DU if you want. Who am I to stop you?

[Lerkfish]

10. yup, spidey senses tingling here, as well. ANyone that defends Rush

or tells us to value Rush, is not our friend.

[Lerkfish]

5. um I'm not going to agree with you. NOONE needs limbaugh.

[Andronex]

7. Think again...

The normal knee jerk reaction to Limbaugh, is to rally around the President no matter what policies Obama pursues. That emotional reaction is understandable, predictable and does serve a purpose.

[Lerkfish]

9. I'm thinking clearly, thank you. What is your intentions here?

frankly I'm suspicious.

[Andronex]

11. You should be suspicious...

but not necessarily of me, I just have a different outlook and mistrust politicians, hopefully that is still permitted.

[Cirque du So-What]

12. Do you mistrust your fellow DUers as well?

Or have you been too busy defending Limbosevic to fill out even the rudimentary aspects of your profile? Eh, why bother?

[Andronex]

17. You don't seem to get it.

I would not waste a minute of my time listening to Limbaugh, even less defending him, but if you got this thing for him go right ahead, you know what they say, there's a thin line between love and hate :eyes:

[Lerkfish]

13. sidestepping the real question: why are you defending Limbaugh?

[Andronex]

15. I'm not !

the man is a joke, but the joke is on you...

[Lerkfish]

20. what does that mean: the joke is on me?

can you elaborate?

you said :The Obama administration needs people like Limbaugh, it gives them cover to pursue the neocon agenda, they work as a tag team


can you elaborate on that as well? in this thread you are at the same time saying you're defending O bama and accusing him of being in cahoots with Rush, both being neocons.

[Andronex]

24. what does that mean: the joke is on me?

It means that Limbaugh is a buffoon and if you take him seriously then yes the joke is on you. I guess if he wore a red rubber nose and green hair it would be more obvious. So why all the focus on this nobody not only on DU but also across the mainstream media? what purpose does it serve when the reaction is so predictable?

[Lerkfish]

29. no, why are you calling Obama a neocon?

I keep asking you and keep avoiding the question.

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[Andronex]

18. funny

My gut reaction would be to defend the president when he is being attacked by people like Limbaugh, but I guess I'm different from most people. This is not a charge, but an obvious and predictable reaction that anybody would have under the circumstances.

[democracy1st]

19. its just that so many people come here to cause problems ..nothing new

[Lerkfish]

21. You accused Obama of being a neocon in cahoots with Limbaugh... how is that defending him?

maybe you should lie down, you're not making any sense.

[Mithreal]

22. Wonderful greeting they gave you.

No one is supposed to draw attention to a person's post count and that's a DU rule for good reason. As if your opinion does not count until you have 1000 posts, it's so obnoxious.

Lame way to "win" an argument as well by attacking the person.

If you are being honest and I will take you at your word unlike these others, then welcome to DU.

[Andronex]

23. Thanks for the welcome.

I admit my views sometimes bother people, and some are quick to judge, you are either with us or...but life is much more complicated than that, partisan politics alone is not the answer, we need to dig a little deeper.

[Hutzpa]

27. Here is what I tend to think

when people uses that analogy that life is way too complicated, my feeling is that
ignorance and lack of understanding is what makes the world complicated, not life,
certain individuals that tends to make life much more complicated for others.

Just as you have a choice of making an inflammable statement or not, life has
nothing to do with you making that choice, YOU chose to make a statement that you
know will inflamed members on DU, but yet went ahead anyway and here you are blaming
life for the complication you've created.

[Lerkfish]

30. I don't care about post count, did you actually read what they said?

they said Obama and Rush are a tagteam promoting the neocon agenda.
I never mentioned post count.

[Mithreal]

31. Yes, there may have been some ignorance but the responses

focused on newness of the poster more than the substance. That is what I objected to, so if shoe fits and all.

All of our allies understand what is happening in the USA, right? Freepers abound but we also get a lot of people who are confused. Every time a lurker has the courage to post that is a step up activating them. Unless a new person is blatantly spouting RW talking points which is pretty easy to do if most of your news comes from the usual media, why not ask one to explain any weakly stated arguments. If we treat confusion like it is all that is required for the freeper tag then we are doing our community a disservice and I don't mean just the DU community.

[Hutzpa]

26. I guess you're using JVS

suggestion of how to fly under the radar....:puke:

[clixtox]

33. I certainly agree completely with your point.

Similarly to the real world many of the participants here on DU have not learned how to read for meaning, to think critically, parse for nuance, and truly understand a perspective that is fundamentally/radically different than the "conventional wisdom".

As you have been reading the posts here for some time I am sure this isn't exactly breaking news.

I appreciate your perspective and I agree with your analysis of that issue about the "frame" and how that tends to limit options, especially unconventional, even if viable, options.

The suborned M$M is tasked with doing just that, creating controversy out of the hot air of their own witless bloviators, among other convenient distractions.

Obama's fall from the firmament, as predicted by clear-eyed political pragmatists like Nader, has gone as unnoticed as our countries descent into fascism by the bamboozled sheeple, who are the majority almost everywhere, even on DU. (I wouldn't be too surprised to learn someday that there are posters on here who are paid to spread holy water on conventional wisdom and demonize those who are effective progressives, such as Hugo Chavez.)

[Hutzpa]

14. Did he call Obama an Ivy league

undergrad??? and called him a BOY??

[SharksBreath]

25. My gut reaction is to show Limbaugh is an idiot and liar.

That has nothing to do with protecting our messiah.

/snark.

[Hutzpa]

28. I've got to that point

where I could care less what some members here think about Obama.

[WhoIsNumberNone]

32. "I don't care if the birth certificate is fake- I know he was born in Kenya!"

I know Rush isn't a bither, but I couldn't resist making the analogy. It's all part of the same alternate reality they live in.