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ariesgem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 03:53 AM
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Moore Plays the Blame Game (Argues on GMA Regarding The War - The Media Didn't ask Questions)
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In "SiCKO," his new movie about the state of the American health-care industry, he blames the industry, the government and the media for not asking the tough questions.

On "Good Morning America" today, Moore told ABC's Chris Cuomo that he was concerned that the health-care debate would go the way of the war debate, where he also thinks the media is to blame. He said that had journalists confronted the government about its decision to invade Iraq, they could have saved thousands of lives."

The "blame game" was the You Tube original title of the video, not mine.
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Daveparts Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 06:07 AM
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1. As usual
the media tries to spin it form what Michael Moore has to say to hiding behind a wounded reporter. Ignoring the issue he presented not that reporters went to Iraq but what the reporters that didn't go to Iraq like Judith Miller were saying.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 06:32 AM
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2. how does riding along embedded equal "asking tough questions"?
I gather this was not the original interview but is rather ABC's edit of the interview.

Moore says the media did not do its job and did not ask the tough questions. The ABC guy's response is to fast forward to after the invasion and talk about reporters who rode in Humvees. Obviously embedded reporters cannot ask the tough questions because they are on the other side of the world from where those questions needed to be asked 6 months earlier.

I wouldn't be surprised if the networks stop putting Moore on live and continue to hide behind these editted versions. Their position is so thin and false that it can't stand up to 20 seconds of truth.

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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 06:37 AM
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3. Moore versus Couric 2004 re F911
Katy Couric comes off like Colin Fergeson in this exchange -- an amateur lawyer who gets nailed by her own questions/statements:

COURIC: You use images of Iraq before the invasion. And if I recall, you have pictures of, film of children playing in playgrounds. You sort of hear the sounds of children laughing.
MOORE: Yeah.

COURIC: You have people eating in outdoor cafes. But even people, Michael, who are vehemently opposed to the war would tell you Saddam Hussein was a tyrannical despot—

MOORE: Mm-hmm.

COURIC: who killed people—

MOORE: Mm-hmm.

COURIC: for absolutely no reason.

MOORE: That’s correct.

COURIC: A murderer.

MOORE: Mm-hmm.

COURIC: And wouldn’t your movie have been better balanced if you had at least included some about Saddam Hussein’s own reputation?

MOORE: You guys did such a good job of telling us how tyrannical and horrible he was. You already did that. What—the question really should be posed to NBC News and all of the other news agencies: Why didn’t you show us that the people that we’re going to bomb in a few days are these people, human beings who are living normal lives, kids flying kites, people just trying to get by in their daily existence? And as the New York Times pointed out last week, out of the 50 air strikes in those initial days, the—we were zero for 50 hitting the target. We killed civilians and we don’t know how many thousands of civilians that we killed. And nobody covered that. And so for two hours, I’m going to cover it. I’m going to—out of four years of all of this propaganda, I’m going to give you two hours that says here’s the other side of the story.


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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 08:43 AM
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11. ABC's edit--exactly. nt
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 07:53 PM
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21. Moore did not make the point that the embedding was not
the problem. It was the lack of inquiry before the war that was the problem. Once the troops went in, it was too late to ask questions. Our policy was fixed.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 06:53 AM
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4. Who owns NBC, who owns CBS, who owns virtually all of the media networks
...whether it is TV, radio, cable, statelite.....the largest corporations of America which have a vested interest in the war, military spending and controlling public opinion and thought
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Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 07:16 AM
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6. I once did a little research.
NBC is owned by General Electric. GE Power Systems produce turbines for nuclear reactors and power plants, GE Plastics produces military hardware. They also manufacture and maintain engines for F-16 Fighter planes.

CBS is owned by Westinghouse, they own a subsidiary that disposes of nuclear and hazardous wastes; plus they operate four government-owned nuclear power plants in the US.

ABC is owned by Disney, they have holdings in Sid R. Bass (crude oil and gas). They also own the Carnival Cruise line, which happened to receive a $236 million federal contract to house Katrina Victims.

Then there’s FOX, as you know Rupert Murdoch owns FOX. Murdoch is on the Board of Directors of Philip Morris. I found an article titled “Bush Administration Lets Big Tobacco off the Hook Despite Killing Millions of Americans”, it’s subtitled “Tobacco Escapes Huge Penalty, U.S. Seeks $10 Billion Instead of $130 Billion”.

...My guess is you already knew this, I just wanted to get it out there.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 07:31 AM
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7. I knew the companies involved but I was not clear which ones owned NBC and CBS
...so thanks for posting those here. The military industrial complex is unfortunately alive and well in going about its business of death and destruction!
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 07:08 AM
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5. Check out the cold, blank, "don't-give-a-flying-fuck" stare
Newscreeps care only for their careers... 3500 dead Americans, why should he worry? SCUMBAG.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 07:42 AM
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8. Who was the ABC apologist talking to Moore?
Remember when the guy doing the interview didn't start yelling at and threatening the interviewee? Days gone by...

The guy really has no clue. Moore was saying that the media was complicit in the war, and Mr. Pretty starts defending the imbeds. :wtf:

ABC look worse at every turn.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 08:50 AM
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13. Sad to say, I believe it to be one of the Cuomo boys.
I get them mixed up... one's NY ATTY GEN (Andrew ?) and the other (Chris?, the prettier one) is the ABC 'news' understudy for John Stossell.

I never saw him so animated. Guess Moore struck a nerve. Who knew?

Also the editing is LOL heavyhanded. I'd like to see the whole thing.

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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 08:09 AM
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9. Jeeze, they get so defensive and indignant and missed the whole point.
People like Woodruff got injured because they were covering a war that never should have happened. Assholes. I hate the media.
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 08:34 AM
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10. Framed
Unfortunately, the corporate media still is the major source of information for most Americans, but that is changing. With each passing day more people such as you and I are turning to alternative information sources like the Internet. I stopped paying attention to corporate news in 1998 during the Clinton witch hunt, and I haven't looked back. The extent of my TV news is: The Daily Show, The Colbert Report, Countdown with Keith Olbermann, and C-Span. Everything else is Republican propaganda. The next time a Republican complains about the "liberal media" suggest bringing back the Fairness Doctrine. When the Fairness Doctrine lapsed in the 80s, because Reagan vetoed reinstating it, the doors opened for right wing propagandists like Rash (deliberate typo) Limbaugh and Pox (another deliberate typo) News to assault the airways with fascist dogma.
Anyone who tells the truth is labeled fringe. We are all victims of the great dumbing down.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 09:33 AM
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15. the absence of the Fairness Doctrine made US media much more
attractive to those that own it now. And this in spite of the fact that the major networks are less profitable than they used to be. Broadcast networks now buy advertising (print, billboards, radio ads) in order to get an audience for their shows in order to sell advertising on those shows. It is like trying to bail out a boat with a leaky cup. The media parts of these giants are sinking financially but the payoffs come elsewhere.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 08:48 AM
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12. the media didnt ask the questions BEFORE THE WAR
Not after it started. Who the hell is that putz hes being interviewed by?
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 09:18 AM
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14. TV news is invalid ...it's all a dog and pony show.
:argh:
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 09:35 AM
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16. Chris Cuomo: I was curious - any relation to Mario?
So I wikied him and Yup - he's a son of Mario.
Dad - do your duty and take your boy out behind the woodshed .
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 10:37 AM
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17. The interviewer turned it very effectively on him
He made Moors attack about those who went to report on the war when the message is those reporters wouldn't have had to go mis-report on the war IF they had asked the right question BEFORE the war.

DAMN! :nuke:
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 04:42 PM
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19. If Cuomo couldn't have used the brave embedded reporters as a red herring
He would have just gone to the old standbys: "You don't support the troops!!" "Don't we need to fight the war on terra?!?"

The sad thing is that these media hacks have swallowed so much of their own koolaid that they honestly believe they are doing a valuable public service by catapaulting the Bushco propaganda.
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Cronopio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 03:51 PM
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18. Cuomo is embedded in so many ways.
Yeah, I like to blame the guilty too, little Mr. Media Debutante. Deal with it.

Moore rolled him so bad, they had to get the editor to bail them out so they wouldn't look like complete fools. They failed.
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 05:48 PM
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20. Notice the caption "Taking on Michael Moore"
Have you ever seen them caption an interview with a Republican that way? Didn't think so.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 07:59 PM
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22. So great to see Michael Moore -- no vanity Michael Moore
sitting there with this guy whose main claim to fame really is the crease in his pants legs -- all vanity. The vanity guy must be extremely jealous of Michael Moore. Moore gets up, combs his hair, eats breakfast and gets on TV because people want to hear what he has to say. Mr. Vanity has too be beautiful and get beautiful to make people want to see him. That is because Mr. Vanity -- outside of his corporate approved appearance is of no interest -- a nobody. Without the thin body and the perfectly fitted suit, he would be walking the street.

Michael Moore is just himself. He is so real and so honest. Why can't corporate media learn from him? I would rather watch Michael Moore than these pretty faces any day.

I realize this is an ad hominem attack, but it's not the guy's looks I'm criticizing, it's his shallowness. He is an empty suit.
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