The Chris Matthews Show: Andrew Sullivan Calls Out Republican Hyprocrisy on Spending

[Turborama]

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Blah blah blah until 3 mins 30 secs.

I'm not a fan of Sullivan but this was good.

[PM Martin]

1. As the old saying goes, "a broken clock is right twice a day".

Still Sullivan is scum.

[FrenchieCat]

3. I think the man has changed and has earned respect that he may have lost

initially....but that's just me. :shrug:

[PM Martin]

7. No. Sullivan is just an opportunist who jumped

on the bandwagon, or perhaps he does have some guilt for his racist past.

[MADem]

4. He's a craven, obvious, dinky, sleazy OPPORTUNIST.

I'm with you--a broken clock.

[Pisces]

2. I love Andrew Sullivan. Say what you will he has been right about Obama from the

beginning. I have loved his blog throughout the primaries and currently.

[MADem]

5. He used to ADORE BUSH, too. Will you love him when, like a rabid dog, he turns on BHO? nt

[FrenchieCat]

6. He is a mixed bag, but fortunately he's been a mixed bag leaning or way for some time!

After supporting George W. Bush in the 2000 Presidential election, he eventually endorsed Senator John Kerry for President in 2004 after first supporting neither candidate.<8> In 2006, he supported the Democratic Party's takeover of Congress. His political philosophy includes a broad range of traditional conservative positions: He favors a flat tax, limited government, privatization of social security, and a strong military, and he opposes welfare state programs such as socialized medicine. However, on a number of controversial public issues, including same-sex marriage and capital punishment, he takes a position typically shared by those on the left of the U.S. political spectrum. His position on abortion is more mixed; saying that he personally finds it immoral and favors overturning Roe v. Wade, but he can accept legalized abortions in the first trimester. Sullivan endorsed Senator Barack Obama for the Democratic Nomination in the 2008 U.S. Presidential Election, and Rep. Ron Paul for the Republican nomination. On his blog, Sullivan has been highly favorable toward Obama, and has denounced McCain for running misleading campaign advertisements, and endorsed Obama for President on the eve of the election <9>.

In 2009 Forbes magazine ranked Sullivan #19 on a list of "The 25 Most Influential Liberals In The U.S. Media."<10> The magazine says "he clings unconvincingly to the 'conservative' label even after his fervent endorsement of Obama. His advocacy for gay marriage rights and his tendency to view virtually everything through a "gay" prism puts him at odds with many on the right."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Sullivan

[PM Martin]

8. Yep, he's just an opportunist

"He favors a flat tax, limited government, privatization of social security, and a strong military, and he opposes welfare state programs such as socialized medicine"
Obama would raise taxes on the wealthy, keep social security as is and would regulate corporations.
So yes, Sullivan :puke: is just an opportunist.

[MADem]

10. And some would call him a .... LIBERAL?

More like libertarian, i.e., a Republican who wants to smoke pot.

[MADem]

9. Naaah, not a mixed bag. A craven opportunist with his finger in the wind.

Trust him about as far as you can throw him.

Andrew Sullivan is only loyal to one person--Andrew Sullivan.

He's a sleaze. I am OFFENDED that the Wiki People categorize that dispicable opportunist as a liberal. He's just a bandwagon bozo, who follows The Power. He'd support the Bozo the Clown Party if they were in power.

Mark my words, if the Fascist Party suddenly rose up and became a threatening, coming force, he'd find something to love in them, too. He's a total JERK. No principles.

[PM Martin]

11. True.

[Turborama]

14. Wikipedia has him as a "libertarian conservative"

"Sullivan is known for his distinctive personal-political identity. He is gay, and considers himself to be a classical libertarian conservative who is often at odds with other conservatives in the U.S., a Roman Catholic,<1> and a non-U.S. citizen who focuses on American political life."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Sullivan

It could be something completely different in ten minutes time, though...

[MADem]

16. I was focusing on that "top liberal" list. He's made my list of Top Cretins in Political Punditry

He's not as noxious as Limbaugh, and not as smarmy as Dildo Really (BillOReilly), but he's probably about equal in "Yuck" factor to Coulter, IMO.

This guy was a storm trooper against Bill Clinton during the Monica business, fomenting all sorts of moralistic poutrage, while he was busily having unprotected sex and contracting, and possibly passing around, HIV by failing to be responsible in his personal conduct.

When he decided to fall in love with Obama, it wasn't so much that he loved Obama, it was that he hated Bill Clinton (to say nothing of Hillary). He's probably enjoying a shitload of cognitive dissonance when he looks at Obama's Clintonian cabinet....

[PM Martin]

17. 100% correct.

Bill Clinton is saintly compared to Sullivan.

I would call Sullivan a Brownshirt Storm trooper!

[AlbertCat]

31. His advocacy for gay marriage rights and his tendency to view virtually everything through a "gay" p

So being gay makes him liberal. Uh huh.....

[Jack Rabbit]

12. Sullivan is the kind of conservative journalist I can respect

He will not let his ideology get in the way of calling a horse a horse (or horse shit horse shit).

I would make the same demand of liberal or leftist journalists.

[CLANG]

13. Another fine specimine! k&r

[elocs]

15. That'll teach someone to say something good, because no matter what they may say

they will get pissed on by the not toeing the perfect DU line brigade. I don't give a damn about what he has said before because what he said here was good. Geeez people don't spit on the messenger when he says something good because you didn't like what he said before.

[MADem]

19. George Bush substantially-- not just a little --substantially--increased aid to Africa.

He also oversaw some of the largest increases to library funding in the history of our nation.

See, those are two things I think are GOOD.

That doesn't mean I think George Bush was a good President. In fact, I think he was the shittiest President in our nation's history.

Just because an asshole says a good thing, or does a good thing, or even two or three, doesn't mean that one should forget all the horrible, mean, nasty and mendacious things they have said over the course of almost twenty years.

It has nothing to do with "toeing the DU line" either. I'm a MODERATE Democrat who was a real fan of Bill Clinton's--that's not your DU paradigm. The way Andrew Sullivan savaged Bill Clinton, and then, because he hadn't gotten enough, went after the Senator, was skin-crawlingly disgraceful.

The man is a great big Bag Of Shit. He'd suck up to anyone who will ensure he gets a comfy seat on a TV panel. He floats in the wind like a discarded plastic trash bag--he has no weight, no center.

He is a turd. A steroid-addled, loudmouth turd. He gets away with much, simply because of his accent--he's not even that smart--or that accurate. But his across-the-pond accent doesn't sound terribly American-made, which makes for good TV, I guess.

He'll turn on Obama if Obama can't make this shit work fast enough to suit him, OR if he thinks the GOP is in resurgence mode.

[PM Martin]

20. Bookmarked!

[elocs]

21. The mark of an adult is the ability to give credit to people for when they do right,

while still being able to criticize them when there is disagreement, but that does not mean that anytime credit is given it must be qualified with criticism.

[MADem]

22. I don't agree with cowardly appeasers, or people who can change their

minds on a whim and lack a moral center.

Sullivan is a toxic asshole. He's a lot like Coulter in his shamelessness. Dispicable creature.

[Think82]

18. Gay Republicans Get the stimulus.

this helps explain things, too

http://www.examiner.com/x-2895-LA-Political-Satire-Examiner

[Pharaoh]

25. That's hilairious!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Hamlette]

23. The hypocracy of DU, Sullivan is evil but Huffington and Brock are not

anyone ever notice that? Huffington and Media Matters are heroes. Sullivan is evil.

Why is that? I never hear anyone mention that Huffington and Brock were once shrill republicans. They are never called opportunists or even questioned.

Sullivan EVERY TIME he is mentioned, he is trashed. And he's been "on our side" for over 5 years and a loud, thoughtful voice for reason (in all things but religion)

Hypocrites.

[PM Martin]

26. If Sullivan is on "our side" then why does

he still support right wing economic policies? Why does he blame the consumers for the current crisis instead of the greedy bankers? Why does he still hold so much disdain for Bill and Hillary Clinton?

Because he is not really on "our side".

[Hamlette]

32. he is not in favor of single payer health care

and if you think "greedy bankers" caused this, I can't help. There are not that many bankers to have done this by themselves. This is due in part to greedy consumers (buying houses they could not afford, wanting their 401Ks to get great returns, and too much money in the system chasing too little places to invest it profitably.)

I read him everyday and he is not fond of the Clintons but in all honesty, Bill hasn't worn very well with me either. Sullivan was pretty even handed until Bill jumped into the primaries this time.

But all that aside, why is it that the left adopts some who support our politicians but not everyone? No one here trashes Huffington. Ever. And she pumped more money into right wing looney causes as anyone and was a shrill a partisan GOP asshole as anyone out there.

And Brock wrote one of the worst and first "trash" a liberal book about an innocent. It was disgusting. He made Ann Coulter (who was a friend of his for many years) look polite.

Maybe you don't remember?


If you stop and think about it, we should welcome people from the other side. I don't mean give them a key to the city but quit trashing him every time he says something YOU AGREE WITH!

Sullivan pushes buttons no one else does and I don't see why. That's why I keep bringing it up.

[PM Martin]

33. Because Sullivan is not truely repentant

like David Brock is.
That is why.
Sullivan is still a conservative. He still should not be trusted.

[Pharaoh]

24. Yes!

Andrew hits that nail on the head!

K&R :toast:

[bjobotts]

27. And what if the press had just STFU. "Bipatisan, frivolus spending???"

[bjobotts]

28. When there is no real story they create one for ratings.

[bjobotts]

29. Republicans did as much as they could to slow recovery and create failure for political gain only.

[bjobotts]

30. Reid should have made them filibuster but not given in tot their demands