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MinM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 09:55 AM
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JFK's "Et tu, Brute?"
 
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While it is not really analogous with Julius Caesar (that would come a few years later).

This Bay of Pigs postmortem was a telling glimpse into the Kennedy White House.

YouTube - Bay of Pigs 1

YouTube - Bay of Pigs 2

YouTube - Bay of Pigs 3

YouTube - Bay of Pigs 4

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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 10:27 AM
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1. God, he was so young
I was just a child, and he was a grownup, an old man, by my standards.

Now, I look at the old film and I realize how young he was, how brave to take on such a job. How gracefully he handled himself, even in the worst of times.

Obama reminds me of him more than I'd like.......
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MinM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 12:47 PM
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2. It is striking...
No doubt it led Angleton, Bissell, Cabell, Dulles and the 'boys' to test his resolve.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 12:52 PM
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3. I saw Ben Bradlee on TV yesterdy,
and I got to thinking of the unsolved murder of his sister-in-law, who had been a paramour of JFK's, and whose death always came back to James Jesus Angleton's doorstep.

Oh, what they got away with. But, in the end, the Mob did their job for them ...............
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MinM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 04:40 PM
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4. The Whole Bay of Pigs Thing
Haldeman pressed the red button, and told Helms what he had been asked. The famously cool and composed Helms suddenly lost it:
The President asked me to tell you this entire affair may be connected to the Bay of Pigs, and if it opens up, the Bay of Pigs may be blown." . . .

Turmoil in the room, Helms gripping the arms of his chair leaning forward and shouting, The Bay of Pigs had nothing to do with this. I have no concern about the Bay of Pigs.

Silence. I just sat there. I was absolutely shocked by Helms violent reaction. Again I wondered, what was such dynamite in the Bay of Pigs story?

Helms slowly settled, and acquiesced, to a degree. Walters later testified that Helms told him to remind Gray of the informal agreement between FBI and CIA to notify each other if their operations and investigations ran into the business of the other. And the seeds of Nixons ouster had been planted.

Haldeman came to believe that the reference to the Bay of Pigs was some sort of code for the Kennedy assassination. He read in Daniel Schorrs book Clearing the Air of the plots against Castro, and wondered, as Schorr did, if those plots might have led, indirectly, to Kennedys own assassination. Haldeman even suggested to Nixon that, now that they were in office and had the power to do so, they should get to the bottom of who really killed Kennedy. Nixon rejected this idea...

YouTube - The Whole Bay of Pigs Thing

Opening Up The Whole "Bay Of Pigs" Thing - "Nixon" (1995)
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MinM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 01:24 PM
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5. A Kennedy's Journey Home (Ireland 45 years ago this week)(audio)
NPR: Here and Now: A Kennedy's Journey Home
Story aired: Friday, December 29, 2006

The Kennedy Library launched this year a new exhibit commemorating President John F. Kennedy's journey home to Ireland in 1963.

After President Kennedy's historic speech at the Berlin Wall on June 26, 1963, he made a trip to Dublin, the land his great grandparents fled during the potato famine in the 19th century.

The exhibit, "A Journey Home," highlights this personal time for the president. And now, newly de-classified documents reveal that Kennedy was the object of death threats during that trip to Ireland.


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MinM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 07:31 AM
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6.  1 month after the assassination, Truman called for a re-evaluation of the CIA

DU Books: Non-Fiction: JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters
Jim Douglass

# This is our last interview regarding this book
# Chapter 6 Washington and Dallas
# The 'sheepdipping' of Lee Harvey Oswald
# Jim refers to the many volumes of The Foreign Relations of the United Satates
# A great resource readily available and largely unstudied
# JFK and Sukarno
# JFK came to power as a cold warrior. He became a pacafist while in office
# Unlike most presidents, Kennedy was a listener and through that, he changed
# The Wheat sale to the USSR and how it came back to haunt him
# The Manichean Devil alive as Communism is alive now as Terrorism
# Dialogue will end the War on Terrorism just as it ended the Cold War
# The Cuban Missiles were analogous to the US missiles in Turkey
# Douglass reminds us if we don't learn from history, we will repeat it
# Instances of Lee Harvey Oswald warning of an upcoming assassination attempt
# 1 month after the assassination, Truman called for a re-evaluation of the CIA
# Wayne January and the stories of killing the Kennedys
# Jim's new works include the four assassinations of the 60's, This book on JFK being the first

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