Fake Canadian Terror Plot Exposed

[reprehensor]

Run time: 08:58 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-kFa2RiZ08   Posted on YouTube: March 13, 2008 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: March 30, 2008 By DU Member: reprehensor Views on DU: 1679

 
In June of 2006, 18 Muslims were arrested in and around Toronto, Ontario, Canada, for allegedly plotting to: a) Drive up to the gates of the Canadian Parliament with an Anfo bomb, b) Take over the CBC, c) Behead Prime Minister Stephen Harper, yes, all of the above.

The stories that were leaked to the press were often sketchy and attributed to anonymous sources, but somehow, the big papers all seemed to have a story to tell... even though the Police released no details about the arrests, and in court, the Federal prosecutors, (the Crown), provided no evidence to the accused when they were jailed. I documented some of the stories here on my blog.

Now, nearly two years away from the Canadian Terror Plot, it has been revealed that the two main ringleaders of the plot were government agents, working for Canada's spy service, CSIS. The man whose idea it was to lure the others out into the country for a game of paintball, but brought a real gun, is a drug abuser named Mubin Shaikh who was paid $300,000 for his "work".

The man who used his credentials as an agricultural engineer to allegedly buy the ammonium nitrate for the alleged bomb, also a CSIS agent, wanted $4 million for his "work", but he may have 'only' gotten $2 million. His identity is protected under Canadian security laws enacted after 9/11. (Mubin Shaikh volunteered his identity to the press, probably for money.)

A recent story in Rolling Stone reveals that virutally all of the supposed terror plots uncovered in the United States since 9/11 have been half-baked, and the potatoes have been loaded with informants and agents, similar to the Canadian terror plot mentioned above.

The unpleasant reality seems to be this: our Intelligence Agencies are working in concert to amplify and distort the notion of Homegrown (Muslim) Terrorism so that their budgets, and demands for anti-Constitutional privacy breaches, are justified. The Press plays along to sell papers, TV time, advertising.

Here is the rest of the YouTube series:

http://youtube.com/user/UnfairDealing

[thunder rising]

1. Used to be Canada had a great sense of balance

during the Vietnam days Canada allowed US citizens to escape the draft. But times are different now. We should call this time "The Great Conservative Bubble" and we are now in the burst stage.

[Octafish]

2. Gee. The 'Strategy of Tension' rears its ugly heads. Hydra-like.

Thanks for the heads-up, reprehensor! That's also a great article from Rolling Stone!

Remember how the British commandos dressed up as Iraqi terrorists who shot dead a policeman needed to get busted out of jail?

Iraq: The Battle of Basra

The powers-that-be need to keep people terrorized. It's just good for business.

[formercia]

4. Same bad actors, new generation

but due to genetic inbreeding and having to rely on a lame one-trick pony, they have become a geek sideshow in a carnival of shame.

[Octafish]

5. The Salvador Option Exposed

Your analysis on their true nature is spot-on, formercia. The thing is, they are shameless sociopaths. And we are in a race with them for survival. To win, we need the good guys in the Pentagon and throughout the government to know the Truth.

An important resource on the subject:

http://www.brusselstribunal.org/BritishBombers.htm#britishspecial

In addition to their genetic baggage, they possess the same mind as Der Schickelgrüber.

Do you think, my Friend, they're going to take us all with them as they go out?

Personally, I believe they'll try to kill us off -- through war, starvation and environmental degradation -- and then they'll fly to their jungle redoubt in Paraguay.

Until then, though, we will fight them with all we've got.

[formercia]

6. A bad idea getting out of control

Junior has shown great skill in engaging in adventures that tend to go sideways in short order. Perhaps not intentionally, but their desperation to remain 'in control' might morph into something their myopic little lizard brains might not have envisioned, or expected.

[seemslikeadream]

3. The Press plays along to sell papers, TV time, advertising.

[applegrove]

7. It is a true story. The police sold them the ingredients (fake ingredients actually) then they

arrested them.

[JohnyCanuck]

8. Well I guess the CSIS agents have to be congratulated

that at least they didn't allow the "terrorists" access to the real stuff. FBI agents aren't like the wimpy Canadian CSIS agents and are apparently made of sterner stuff. In the 1993 terrorists plot to bomb the WTC the FBI snoop/informer/provocateur among the plotters/patsies wanted to use a harmless substitute for the explosives to avoid the chance of causing any deaths or injuries, but the FBI nixed that plan which meant real explosives were used and six people died (and numerous others suffered injuries).

http://911review.org/Wiki/FirstWTCBombing.shtml

[applegrove]

9. I've never heard that the FBI was involved in the 1993 plot. I think they

were as surprised as anyone. I'm not one for conspiracy theories. Sorry.

[JohnyCanuck]

10. Check out the NY Times on it.

Can't link to story on the NY Times web site but it has been republished on other web sites.

THE NEW YORK TIMES

* * * * *

Thursday October 28, 1993 Page A1

"Tapes Depict Proposal to Thwart
Bomb Used in Trade Center Blast"

By Ralph Blumenthal

Law-enforcement officials were told that terrorists were building a bomb that was eventually used to blow up the World Trade Center, and they planned to thwart the plotters by secretly substituting harmless powder for the explosives, an informer said after the blast.

The informer was to have helped the plotters build the bomb and supply the fake powder, but the plan was called off by an F.B.I. supervisor who had other ideas about how the informer, Emad Salem, should be used, the informer said.

The account, which is given in the transcript of hundreds of hours of tape recordings that Mr. Salem secretly made of his talks with law-enforcement agents, portrays the authorities as being in a far better position than previously known to foil the February 26th bombing of New York City's tallest towers.

SNIP

The transcript quotes Mr. Salem as saying that he wanted to complain to F.B.I. Headquarters in Washington about the Bureau's failure to stop the bombing, but was dissuaded by an agent identified as John Anticev.

Mr. Salem said Mr. Anticev had told him,

"He said, I don't think that the New York people would like the things out of the New York Office to go to Washington, D.C."

Another agent, identified as Nancy Floyd, does not dispute Mr. Salem's account, but rather, appears to agree with it, saying of the `New York people':

"Well, of course not, because they don't want to get their butts chewed."

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/wtcbomb.html

[applegrove]

12. I still don't believe the FBI knew anything about it. I've never read

it anywhere. It would have been big news. Sorry. And I resent the OP that declares the Canadian bomb story phoney. Alot of people worked really hard to stop that plot and alot of people were really threatened - it came to light.

Face it. There is terrorism in the world. We are lucky that we haven't been attacked since 9/11.

[JohnyCanuck]

13. "It would have been big news"

With the corporate whore media doing its usual excellent, hard hitting and upstanding job of holding the authorities to account? I doubt it. And as far as people working really hard to stop that Canadian plot, a lot of people (and not just the usual suspects) were apparently also working almost as hard to make sure there was going to be a plot to be stopped.

BTW, in addition to the report in the NY Times on the FBI informant in the WTC plot, it did get a mention on CBS news as well.

See the CBS News Report here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F1Y6cGRXEs

[applegrove]

14. I don't buy it. I just don't buy it. This is the first I've heard of it and it would

have been big news on the DU. Not a peep. Sorry.

[JohnyCanuck]

15. Was DU even around in 1993?

But anyway, I just did a quick Google Search on DU for "salem fbi informant wtc" and got 167 hits. You can see them here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/searchresults.html?q=salem+fbi+informant+wtc&sitesearch=democraticunderground.com&sa=Search&domains=democraticunderground.com&client=pub-7805397860504090&forid=1&ie=ISO-8859-1&oe=ISO-8859-1&cof=GALT%3A%23008000%3BGL%3A1%3BDIV%3A%23336699%3BVLC%3A663399%3BAH%3Acenter%3BBGC%3AFFFFFF%3BLBGC%3A336699%3BALC%3A0000FF%3BLC%3A0000FF%3BT%3A000000%3BGFNT%3A0000FF%3BGIMP%3A0000FF%3BFORID%3A11&hl=en

[applegrove]

16. My point exactly. Only 167,000 hits and "tiger tulip aqua" has 143,000 hits.

So it is a big nothing.

[JohnyCanuck]

17. So if DU wasn't around in 1993

How can you complain it wasn't made a big deal of on DU? The fact is various threads on DU did address the topic (years after the event when it would have somewhat faded into history and from our awareness) and it did receive at least 2 news reports in the mainstream media outlets at the time.

BTW, let me guess applewood, you have never heard of http://nafeez.blogspot.com/2007/05/strategy-of-tension.html">Operation Gladio either.

The existence of this secret operation exploded into public controversy when in August 1990 upon the admissions in parliament by Italian Prime Minister Giulio Andreotti, the existence of ‘Gladio’ was exposed as a secret sub-section of Italian military-intelligence services, responsible for domestic bombings blamed on Italian Communists. Ganser documents in intricate detail how a subversive network created by elements of western intelligence services – particularly that of the US and UK - orchestrated devastating waves of terrorist attacks blamed on the Soviet Union, not only in Italy, but also in Spain, Germany, France, Turkey, Greece, i.e. throughout western Europe. Despite a number of European parliamentary inquiries; an European Union resolution on the Gladio phenomenon; NATO’s close-doors admissions to European ambassadors; confirmations of the international operation from senior CIA officials; and other damning documentary evidence; NATO, the CIA and MI6 have together consistently declined to release their secret files on the matter.

The Strategy of Tension simply isn’t part of our historical consciousness. Very few historians of the Cold War are fully conversant with it, let alone academics working in international relations and political science. This is despite the fact that it played an instrumental role in physically constructing a threat, projected into the USSR, which did not ultimately exist. Ipso facto, the Strategy of Tension belongs to the waste-bin of history.

The immense fear and chaos generated by the impact of the Operation Gladio phenomenon throughout western Europe was instrumental in legitimizing the interventionist policies of the Anglo-American alliance in the South, throughout the Cold War period. Although the Soviet Union was supposed to be the real threat and source of terror, and thus the ultimate object of the over 70 military interventions conducted since 1945 the Soviet threat was in fact actively exaggerated ideologically – and even physically constructed through clandestine operations – to mobilize the comprehensive militarization of western societies. This does not mean that many government officials did not believe their own propaganda. But we now know that there was a secretive sub-section of the Western intelligence community, known only to very few members of elected governments, that was involved in this.

http://nafeez.blogspot.com/2007/05/strategy-of-tension.html

NATO's Secret Army, Operation Gladio and Terrorism in Western Europe by Daniele Ganser

[applegrove]

18. I give up. Really you don't need to convince me. I'm not going to be

convinced so I'll leave it at that and say Have a great day.

[JohnyCanuck]

19. It's not that important to me whether you personally are convinced or not.

But I do appreciate the chance you have given me to engage in the discussion and post some relevant links, so that if there are other DUers or lurkers on this thread who were not aware that Western democratic governments, including the US, have a questionable record in their dealings with terrorists and terrorism (even engaging in it themselves from time to time, e.g Gladio) and need terrorism to occur so they can then use the threat of terrorism to more easily take away our civil liberties and freedoms, the lurkers can have the chance to see the evidence and make up their own minds as to its validity.

So thanks for the discussion and you have a great day too.

[leveymg]

22. '93 WTC and '98 Africa bombings involved several al-Qaeda double-agents working for US and UK intel

Here are two others: http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=alate93surveillance


Late 1993-Late 1994: Ali Mohamed and Anas Al-Liby Scout Targets in Africa In late 1993, bin Laden asks Ali Mohamed to scout out possible US, British, French

Late 1993-Late 1994: Ali Mohamed and Anas Al-Liby Scout Targets in Africa In late 1993, bin Laden asks Ali Mohamed to scout out possible US, British, French, and Israeli targets in Nairobi, Kenya. Mohamed will later confess that in December 1993, “I took pictures, drew diagrams and wrote a report.” Then he travels to Sudan, where bin Laden and his top advisers review Mohamed’s work. In 1994, Mohamed claims that “bin Laden looks at a picture of the American Embassy and points to where a truck could go as a suicide bomber.” A truck will follow bin Laden’s directions and crash into the embassy in 1998. Mohamed seems to spend considerable time in Nairobi working with the cell he set up there and conducting more surveillance. He also is sent to the East African nation of Djibouti to scout targets there, and is asked to scout targets in the West African nation of Senegal. Much of his work seems to be done together with Anas al-Liby, a top al-Qaeda leader with a mysterious link to Western intelligence agencies similar to Mohamed’s. In 1996, British intelligence will pay al-Liby to assassinate Libyan leader Colonel Mu’ammar al-Qadhafi (see 1996), and then will let him live openly in Britain until 2000 (see Late 1996-May 2000). Al-Liby is said to be a “computer wizard” known for “working closely” with Mohamed. L’Houssaine Kherchtou, an al-Qaeda member who later turns witness for a US trial (see September 2000), was trained in surveillance techniques in Pakistan by Mohamed in 1992. Kherchtou will claim he later comes across Mohamed in 1994 in Nairobi. Mohamed, Anas al-Liby, and a relative of al-Liby’s use Kherchtou’s apartment for surveillance work. Kherchtou sees al-Liby with a camera about 500 meters from the US embassy. Mohamed returns to the US near the end of 1994 after an FBI agent phones him in Nairobi and asks to speak to him about an upcoming trial.
Entity Tags: Ali Mohamed, L’Houssaine Kherchtou, Anas al-Liby, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Osama bin Laden
Timeline Tags: Complete 911 Timeline

Add Ramzi Yousef to the list of possible doubles who had been recruited by CIA: http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?other_al-qaeda_operatives=complete_911_timeline_ramzi_yousef&timeline=complete_911_timeline

Late 1980s: Ramzi Yousef Recruited by CIA? Al-Qaeda bomber Ramzi Yousef is said to be recruited by the CIA, though details are not known. Author Richard Labeviere reported without elaboration in a 1999 book, “A classified FBI file indicates that was recruited by the local branch of the CIA.” In 1995, Newsday will report, “FBI officials also are considering a probe of whether the CIA had any relationship with Yousef, who fought with the CIA-financed mujaheddin in Afghanistan in the 1980s.” But there appears to be no further reporting on whether such a probe was conducted. Yousef is believed to have masterminded a series of bombings in the early 1990s, including the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and the planned Bojinka attack, before being captured in 1995 (see February 7, 1995). If Yousef was recruited by the CIA, it may have been in the late 1980s when the CIA recruited and trained thousands of people around the world to fight in Afghanistan (see 1986-1992). In the late 1980s, Yousef was studying engineering at a Wales college, but he’d also joined the Muslim Brotherhood while there. During a break from school in 1988, he went to one of bin Laden’s training camps in Afghanistan and spent several months honing his bomb-making skills.

[AntiFascist]

23. That's precisely what they want you to believe...

there aren't any bad apples in the FBI. None of them can be bought out by foreign interests. The Sibel Edmonds case is one big conspiracy theory...ad nauseum.

Kicking this thread, sorry too late to Rec.

[wildbilln864]

11. recommended!

Thanks reprehensor. :hi:

[autorank]

20. But without these plots, how could we spend what we do. There are real dangers,

and it's a real crime to trot stuff like this out to discredit real law enforcement.

K*R

[Truth2Tell]

21. Highly recommended. nt

[LibertyorDeath]

24. "two main ringleaders of the plot were government agents"

Does this surprise.... No

Are people Dumb enough to believe whatever their government or Media tells them

yes to the point that it makes any thinking person want to fucking hurl ! :puke: :puke:

Ductape Fatwa coming to a town near you.......

[yurbud]

25. kick

[JohnyCanuck]

26. The incredible shrinking terror case

Thomas Walkom (The Toronto Star)

Apr 16, 2008 04:30 AM

Once labelled Canada's first homegrown, Islamist terror plot, the case of the so-called Toronto 18 is quietly melting away.

With yesterday's decision to stay charges against four more of those that it had once labelled dangerous terrorists, the federal government is now admitting that it never had a serious case against almost half of the men and youths charged two years ago.

So far, the Crown has stayed charges against seven of the 18 Toronto-area Muslim males. While technically, that means it could re-lay charges within a year, legal experts call such a move unlikely.

This does not necessarily mean the Crown's case is entirely bogus. The government argues that some of the remaining 11 were involved in a scheme to obtain explosive material, while others participated in a terror training camp.

Because of a judicial publication ban, whatever evidence – if any – that the government has produced in court to bolster these allegations cannot be reported.

But what is becoming clear from material that can be revealed is that the alleged plot was never quite as advertised.

SNIP

In some press accounts, the eldest person arrested, a Mississauga bus driver named Qayyum Abdul Jamal, then 43, was painted as the Islamic firebrand behind the youthful plotters.

This view was reinforced when then Liberal MP Wajid Khan (he's now a Conservative) told reporters that he had once heard Jamal at a mosque badmouthing Canada's troops in Afghanistan.

Ironically, Jamal was one of the four who had his charges stayed yesterday. He may indeed be a critic of Canadian foreign policy. But it seems that he is not a terrorist ideologue

http://www.thestar.com/columnists/article/414859