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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 04:38 PM
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Anyone notice that when a black stripper alleges rape...
All of a sudden the white defendants' rights become THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN THE WORLD.

Whereas when the defendant is black, all of a sudden the most important thing in the world is "victims' rights".

Funny where the "the most important thing in the world" seems to land SO consistently.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 04:40 PM
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1. When was
the last time a black stripper alleged a rape took place?

Just wondering.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 04:43 PM
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4. Sorry. It was rhe-tor-i-cal.
I'm not the world's best writer. My apologies.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 04:46 PM
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8. It wasn't rhetorical
It was stirring the pot, it was racist, and what was the point, really?

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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 04:50 PM
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10. Actually it wasn't racist at all. As for the point, if you didn't get it
on your own, explaining it would be an exercise in futility.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 04:59 PM
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13. I got nothin to add to that.
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marbuc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 04:42 PM
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2. I wonder if circumstances would be different if the alleged victim
were a white stripper?
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 04:45 PM
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6. I don't wonder.
Even less so do I wonder if it was, say the (largely black) basketball team and a white stripper.
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marbuc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 04:58 PM
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11. Regarding your scenario
there was a famous case here in Colorado where anonymous member(s) of the largely black football team were accused of sexual assault. Even though there were multiple (white) accusers, none of the cases ever made it to trial for lack of evidence. The community was torn apart in this case, some presumed guilt, and many defended the players.

Also, the Kobe Bryant deal played out in the media here, and many if not most decided early that the alleged victim was unstable, promiscuous, and therefore lying.

Judging by these two cases, there seems to be a bias toward the defendant. While I think your hypothesis has some validity, it is not absolute.
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benddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 05:35 PM
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16. But in both those cases
the men were famous or sort of...and that made the different. I do believe that if a black soccer team raped a white stripper the media fury would unleash on them. It would be like the blonde missing women.
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 10:37 PM
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23. Again, if you're talking about Duke...
you wouldn't see that behavior out of Coach K's kids, he is probably the MOST honorable man in college athletics. He doesn't even recruit kids unless they are young men of character and principles. If you knew anything about college basketball and Duke you would know that. And in this state - NC - the largely black college basketball team would easily get the benefit of the doubt. Again, if you knew anything about college basketball in NC, you would know that it is practically a religion in this state; we take our college basketball seriously.

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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 04:43 PM
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3. I know what you mean
I seriously think if the situation was reversed, there would be more sympathy for the victim right now.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 04:44 PM
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5. Anyone notice that when
there is a hotbutton, Rita Cosby crime case, that there are a thousand threads on the subject???

Sheesh. I'm waiting until the jury's out.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 04:45 PM
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7. Can't deny that! lol
Who's Cosby though?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 04:58 PM
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12. The blonde lady with the curious voice who is now on MSNBC
She was canned from Faux for being too old and too fat, but she had a huge fan base. They snatched her up and have her doing gossipy crime stories immediately following Olbermann (the Aruba thing, this case, etc.). Her fans followed her, and her ratings are pretty good. She has a knack for getting the interview--she apparently works like hell, flattering and cajoling, and persuades people to talk to her. I think she probably warns them of a few tough questions, and gives them time to state their case. In any event, she manages to get the odd surprising interview!
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 05:00 PM
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15. Gotcha - thx!
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 04:48 PM
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9. Not so. See Kobe Bryant case.
Edited on Sat Apr-22-06 04:51 PM by Neil Lisst
Black defendant, white accuser. Same devotion to defendants' rights.

It's not like I just decided last week "hey, I think I'll always side with defendants' right to a fair trial in a criminal case before being pronounced guilty."

It's what I believe, and what's more, it's a core Democratic value.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 04:59 PM
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14. kind of like when "illegals" are brown
:eyes:
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 05:38 PM
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17. One of the perps has a prior sexual assault as a Minor
Charges were dropped in lieu of counseling and community service. It has been put on hold pending the outcome of this case.

The kid in question is a local and it is getting a lot of coverage here. Local media is really digging into his background.
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TomPaine77 Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 07:15 PM
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18. Accused Vs. Victims
I don't care about the color of the accused or the victims, as long as people found guilty of rape do a lot of hard time. Black, white or other, sexual predators skate in this country, compared to perpetrators of other violent crimes. And don't think that the growing "pornographication" of society is going to let violent sex crime figures go down, unless local and state police departments engage in creative crime statistics to a degree even greater than they're doing now....
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Balbus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 07:19 PM
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19. No, hadn't notice that.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 07:21 PM
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20. I didn't notice that. When did it happen? nt
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 10:30 PM
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21. No, but I have noticed that sometimes
some people will use anything to attack others who don't automatically and slavishly agree with them. I prefer less sanctimony and more objectivity, myself.

And if you're talking about the Duke case (again), wasn't that young woman an exotic dancer, not a stripper? That seemed to be a rather nasty point of contention with some.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 10:32 PM
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22. I have no idea what the difference is.....
If someone prefers one of the terms, fine by me.
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