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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 01:34 PM
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*BENBURCH NEEDS TO PM ME RIGHT NOW*
I just talked to a producer for Michael Moore's new health care documentary about Andy Stephenson. They are strongly considering putting his story - specifically the fact that he needed friends to fundraise for him - into the documentary.

Ben, write me. Now.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 01:34 PM
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1. kicked n/t
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 01:36 PM
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3. again
kick
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 01:35 PM
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2. Did that 2 weeks ago
:P
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 01:38 PM
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10. Hee-Hee. You are ahead of the curve
:)

I hope they do his story ...fingers crossed.. That would be a great way to memorialize him..:cry:
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 01:36 PM
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4. kick nt
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 01:36 PM
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5. K & R n/t
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 01:37 PM
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6. Will They Mention
how the freeps conspired against him?
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 01:38 PM
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12. I hope so...I really do. eom
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 01:42 PM
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14. Maybe
That story is so crazy and awful, and is also a little to the side of the main point of the documentary, which is the high cost of health care. They may include it to show how easy it is for someone's healet care to get messed with.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 01:58 PM
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29. Did you look upthread? DS1 has already talked to MM's people
a few weeks ago they called him :)
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 01:37 PM
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7. Awesome!
:yourock:
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 01:38 PM
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8. kick for Andy
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 01:38 PM
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9. Paging BENBURCH... - n/t
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 01:38 PM
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11. Fantastic!
Doesn't he come around about the time Mike Malloy is on?
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 01:38 PM
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13. Oh my god, what a wonderful tribute to Andy if his story was
featured in a Michael Moore film. :cry: :hug:
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 01:42 PM
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15. I read about this possibility here on DU within the past month
I'm glad this is happening - MM is a good guy.
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 01:43 PM
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16. Isn't he the webmaster at The White Rose Society?
http://www.whiterosesociety.org/
[email protected]

Can you email him there?

K&R for Andy.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 01:44 PM
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17. Done. nt
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 01:47 PM
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18. In thinking about life being so short
I need to take a moment...

Will & Ben, I hope you both know how much you and all the good things you do are appreciated. I'm happy to have you two as a part of my extended, educational circle & am blessed because of it.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 01:52 PM
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21. Check your PM
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 03:19 PM
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47. Please let us know how talking to eachother went
asap
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 04:07 PM
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56. MM's Producer is a great person.
I had a long talk with her and anticipate several more as this segment moves into production.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 04:49 PM
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65. Steph?
Very pleasant, and clearly interested and amazed
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 05:01 PM
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70. Amy.
Charming person.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 05:06 PM
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75. Even better
that means two of them are on the case :D
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 12:53 PM
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117. sweet
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Misskittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 01:48 PM
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19. That's wonderful. Would it help if we e-mail Michael Moore to
give support for its inclusion in the film?
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 01:49 PM
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20. Why don't you just, um, PM Ben?
:shrug:
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 01:54 PM
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23. This way is more expedient
I wasn't sure he was online and don't have easy access to his other contact info. If folks who do have that see this, they'll reach out to him for me.
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 02:24 PM
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40. Try e-mailing him.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 02:34 PM
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43. I didn't have his email
And you giving it to me now still means I didn't have it then, unless you also have a time machine I can borrow.

Why is this such a problem for you?
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 03:17 PM
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46. Who said it was a problem?
You are trying to get in touch with him and I am trying to help. Why is that such a problem for YOU?
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 01:53 PM
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22. Does anyone remember exactly how much $$$ was raised for Andy?
I can't remember now but I know it was a lot.

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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 01:54 PM
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24. An eyelash over $50K
Edited on Thu Apr-13-06 01:54 PM by WilliamPitt
for an operation that cost $50K.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 02:35 PM
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44. Very impressive.
I hope MM includes it.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 11:55 PM
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104. I know the film isn't about Andy specifically,
Edited on Thu Apr-13-06 11:56 PM by kgfnally
but health care in general, but....

it would be a damn shame if MM didn't include some of the efforts that were put into actually stopping his care... by Certain Parties.

To me, that's the real story... not that he needed to raise funds for surgery- I've heard of that happening before, to others- but that some people were actually trying to stop him from getting it. And that may have (and, honestly, almost certainly did) sealed his fate.
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 01:55 PM
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25. SapphireBlue suggested this to me a couple months ago....
So I asked termite if he would go on-camera to talk about it...since he is the one who was there with Andy. Termite declined.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 02:05 PM
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33. that's unfortunate. How is he doing? How are you doing?
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 02:10 PM
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34. Termite is doing okay....
He has a new job and has been finishing their house.

Me? I am getting ready to move and it is a big hassle. Ugh.

Thanks for asking.
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coffeenap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 02:13 PM
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36. Hi!! Glad to hear Termite is moving forward....I wish we could take
his pain away. Hope your move goes well. :hug:
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 02:18 PM
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37. Thanks, M.
Closing up a big house after many years in it to move to a condo isn't easy. Lots of throwing away, and my mother was a packrat. It runs in the family.

Termite has good friends who look after him well.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 01:57 PM
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26. I so hope he tells Andy's story!!
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 01:57 PM
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27. can someone recap to those who are new(er) to DU...
I've heard references here but don't know the story. Thanks.

:)
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 02:01 PM
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30. this will help catch you up
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 02:28 PM
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41. thank you.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 11:41 PM
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99. you bet. unfortunately it cannot truly convey what he was feeling and
how we felt. I will never forget the night before he was diagnosed his posting here how scared he was to die and he didn't understand what was happening to his body - why he was a strange color and itching all over. I have panic attacks from time to time. I felt like I could understand. Thinking back and knowing he is now gone -

I remember the night he died. I meditated on him and felt he would leave. I let him know in that meditation that he could go - that we would carry the fight for fair elections. Now we need to take the next step and include health care.

God bless you Andy. You'll always be on my buddy list.

:cry:
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Radio_Guy Donating Member (875 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 01:58 PM
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28. Mainstream exposure of what the freeps did to Andy
Lies have to be hidden, but the truth can run around in the sunshine. Well the light of truth will shine on this story and expose the freeps for what they truly are!

Viva Michael Moore!
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 02:01 PM
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31. Will...if they need copies of documents...
or anything else...you know how to get ahold of me. I have jpegs of a lot of the documentation while Andy was going round and round with getting his surgery. And I might actually, finally be at a place where I can talk coherently about what happened.

I still miss Andy.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 02:03 PM
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32. Andy's story was a classic example
of how difficult it is for uninsured cancer patients to access quality health care. Its a disease where a delay of a week or more in getting treatment can mean the difference between life or death, its tragic. Cancer care is truly becoming an area where those who can't afford to pay get delayed or inferior care.
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coffeenap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 02:11 PM
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35. Talk to SFEXPAT2000. She knows everything. (Of course, you
probably already know that.):hi:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 02:21 PM
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39. I'm on board, have a call in. Andy would love this.

(((((((((DU)))))))

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jhain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 09:22 PM
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94. Andy's photo
I only 'knew' Andy through DU...I have alays wanted to tell you how much that baby photo of him tugs at my heart... His spirit was so evident- even at that tender age.
Thank you for using it in your posts...it is good to 'see' him in that sink every so often...

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 10:00 PM
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95. I'm glad you like it. That heart was already there, wasn't it?
lol

:hug:
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 02:20 PM
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38. I hope MM does this
Watching it will break my heart all over again, but Andy's story needs to be told. Andy, we miss you...we miss your light.



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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 02:29 PM
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42. Back to the top
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 03:16 PM
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45. kicked for Andy
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 03:25 PM
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48. What does that mean exactly?
<< I just talked to a producer for Michael Moore's new health care documentary about Andy Stephenson. >>

The way you worded it could be interpreted a couple of different ways. Is Michael Moore is doing a new health care documentary about Andy Stephenson?

Or was it that you talked---about Andy Stephenson---to Michael Moore's producer, who is doing a health care documentary?

Either way... this whole thing could be a nice feather in your cap, eh?
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 03:38 PM
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49. No feather for me
They reached out to me because Moore is doing a documentary on health care and was told by someone else that Andy's story should be part of the whole. I basically gave the producer the back story and then set her up with the people who were closest to the fundraising.

If you look at Moore's site, you'll see his letter about the documentary. He is looking for healthcare horror stories from anyone who has one.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 04:45 PM
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64. This feather was recorded quietly.
"Love is not love that bends with the removers to remove." - Donne

And in fact, you didn't bend.

Our friend may yet be justified.

It's all good, Will.

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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 04:01 PM
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54. Hey arwalden...
haven't seen you in a while. This thread has been such a good way to reconnect with people today and I just wanted to say hi and :hug:
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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 03:39 PM
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50. I think DS1 talked to them last month already....
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 03:50 PM
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51. Yes, DS1 did. Kudos. I wrote in, too, and didn't stir a response.
I really hope this happens, if it is cool with Termite, because this is exactly what Andy wanted to do -- shine a light on our criminal excuse for a healthcare system.


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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 03:58 PM
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52. I remember that. I think PMs are very effective in these cases.
Just sayin'
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 04:00 PM
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53. It's all good. We get it done somehow.
:)
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 04:02 PM
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55. I hope they use it!
I still can't get over the idea of seeing his smiling face on the big screen. :)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 04:14 PM
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57. Me, either. I thought I was all healed up but just thinking about
Edited on Thu Apr-13-06 04:15 PM by sfexpat2000
what Andy and Termite were put through, thinking about how loving DU was to them, and thinking about the last really really terrible days, I confess that I'm crying again.

I miss Andy, too.

And I will never forget what DU did. How you all made a circle around him. It's probably the most beautiful thing I'll ever see in my life.

(((((((((DU)))))))))))
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 04:18 PM
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59. You aren't alone...
greatauntoftriplets convinced me today to turn my sig lines back on (I turned them off after Andy passed when so many people had his pic in their sig). What convinced me was her description of the pic you have in yours. I look at it and smile and cry at the same time. :)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 04:20 PM
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60. me, too. I love that sink baby.
:cry:

:hug:
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 04:21 PM
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61. And you can sure tell...
it's him. Adorable. :)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 04:27 PM
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62. Andy was like Florimel in "The Faerie Queene". He was so
attractive, you'd need a harness or some major hardware not to fly directly into his back pocket.

He could have sweet talked the light from the moon. I loved that about him.

lol
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 05:01 PM
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71. I know what you mean
I had to take a break from this thread actually...I get this weird emotional mix of hope and sorrow which makes the tears fall too easily. It's hard to not relive his roller coaster of a story from the first "I'm scared" post to the nightmare of having to pay for the surgery up front to the amazing fundraiser and, well, you know.

My biggest regret is not posting more. I wish I had told him how much I was thinking about him.

OK, gotta stop now.

:hug:

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 05:08 PM
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76. . . .
:hug:
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 04:15 PM
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58. I hope they tell everything about his story - including the smear campaign
while he was dying.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 04:34 PM
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63. And, it continued after his passing.
I don't think that's the story that MM's folks want.

But, you know glitch, I think it's enough that WE know it. That we know what really happened.

:hug:
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 04:51 PM
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66. The primary focus is on how we had to raise money to get him help.
When in any decent nation on the planet, that would have been an understood part of citizenship.

But my understanding is that they DO intend to go after the freepers at least in passing.

Those goons should expect to come out of their places of employment to find camera crews waiting at their cars...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 04:55 PM
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67. Those lovely, compassionate conservatives
who tried to shut down the fund raising for a man's cancer treatment.

God bless you, Freepers, because you will need the vote.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 04:57 PM
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68. I just hope they treat the surgeon well in the piece.
As far as I can tell he did the modified Whipple correctly. Had the cancer been the sort that the vaccine was designed for, Andy might still be with us.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 05:10 PM
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77. The surgeon might be a good guy but his bulldogs were bitches.
When they couldn't find the check that was sitting on the mailroom sup's desk, she refused to talk to me any more and she had Andy escorted out of the building by security.

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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 05:15 PM
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79. I know.
I can't find it in myself to blame him for it, though.

I wish Termite had sued JH over this.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 05:16 PM
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80. It wasn't the surgeon's fault. He did a wonderful thing.
He gave Andy 6 more weeks.

peace.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 01:31 AM
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106. What sort of poetic justice would it be
if the spitefulness of the freepers helps bring about "socialized medicine"? And via their arch-enemy MICHAEL MOORE, no less! I could not think of a better revenge if I tried all year. It's too beautiful.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 04:59 PM
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69. You might like this posting I made about Andy's puppy, Ballot
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 05:03 PM
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73. And we might consider getting Will an address/phone # book
Anybody know when his birthday isn't?
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 05:05 PM
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74. A beer-proof one!
:rofl:
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 08:30 PM
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92. I remember that!
It was GREAT!
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 05:02 PM
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72. This, I believe, was Andy's last radio interview.
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 05:12 PM
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78. Kick for Andy!!!!!
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Janice325 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 05:22 PM
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81. I was already sniffling after reading the Ballot thread,
and then I see this one.
You guys are great!:grouphug:
k&r
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 05:24 PM
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82. I hate to ask but, does anyone have a copy of Andy's service?
Several people have offered to send me one but it sort of never happened. I understand, that's so much going on.

But as I couldn't go, I'd really appreciate being able to at least see it.

tia,
Beth
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 06:07 PM
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83. If you get one, I want a copy.
I've never seen it.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 06:09 PM
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84. Okay, ben. It's a deal.
:hug:
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Daphne08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 06:22 PM
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85. A Kick and a recommend for Andy!
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 06:23 PM
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86. I'll Bet Andy's Mom And Ted Are THRILLED At This News!!
Have they been contacted yet? Have you personally spoken with them? What do they have to say about it? Are they as eager to participate and get involved as you are? It's all very exciting, isn't it?
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 06:27 PM
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87. Kicking again EOM
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 06:28 PM
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88. I hope the film addresses dental care as well.
It's outrageous how much it costs. I need some dental work done and the insurance I have won't cover hardly any of it. I'm paying sooooooo much out of pocket and I have decent insurance with a company that I worked at for almost 7 years. I can only imagine how awful it must be for people with zero insurance. Your teeth/mouth are a big part of your overall health.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 08:28 PM
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91. I hear you, Scout...
I have to believe that dentists are hurting in this ecomony, too.

My dentist is practically a telemarketer now, drumming up work for
his practice!
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 07:57 PM
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89. wow, this thread is so sad and wonderful at the same time
:cry:

it would be so fitting if Andy's story could help bring the abysmal state of our Health Care to the fore and put a face on it.

Andy would be proud I think.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 08:14 PM
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90. K & R
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 08:48 PM
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93. This sounds great. You promised revenge didn't you? This might
be what you meant...I'm hoping anyway.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 10:16 PM
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96. Voter verified paper ballots and health care for all!
One of the last things Andy wrote on this board.

If Michael Moore recounts Andy's story we will get universal health care.

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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 10:24 PM
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97. Kn freakin R
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 11:38 PM
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98. Late night kick & recommend
I only got to speak with Andy a few times, but my posts to him were always the same: "Things will turn out O.K." There are some real sick fuckers out there who made a liar out of me.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 11:41 PM
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100. You know, those posts helped him. I know they did.
He felt the love flowing his way and he really needed it.

Thank you, Hissyspit, so much.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 11:44 PM
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101. I'm sure you remember that night
post 99
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 11:47 PM
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102. Yes, I do. n/t
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 11:50 PM
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103. kick n/t
:cry:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 01:33 AM
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107. . . .
:hug:

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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 01:41 AM
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109. I remember both nights well. n/t
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 01:25 AM
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105. I keep thinking about how proud Andy would be if he knew,
and somehow, wherever he is now, I believe he DOES know. For his sake, I truly hope it really happens.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 01:34 AM
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108. He would love this. This is what he wanted.
:)
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 06:15 AM
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110. Another kick for Andy
:kick:
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 06:36 AM
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111. I posted this on the other thread, where someone contacted MM's People
Here's the Flash Film I created to honor Andy
Edited on Sat Apr-01-06 01:07 PM by symbolman

http://web.takebackthemedia.com/geeklog/public_html/staticpages/index.php?page=20050710095608538

It was mentioned in one of the articles in the Seattle paper http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002382738_danny15.html I clicked on the link at the Paper and it took me to the fund raising of my film "Rove's War" at Takebackthemedia.com, so I dug into the site to get just the actual link to The Memorial Flash for Andy.

Hope this helps, say hi to Michael Moore from the guy who did the ARMY OF ONE 30 second film for the MoveOn "Bush In 30 Seconds" contest, he actually announced my name at the event as one of the 14 finalists in NYC and I got to stand up under some spotlights, the coolest feeling in the world, he might remember me, we did talk a few times (Not trying to horn in here with Michael, just bringing it up in case he wants to know who did the Memorial should they be interested in using it at all, didn't want to send folks to the wrong link when it's about Andy and Honoring Him..)

Andy loved my "VoteRevolution" Flash work so much that he kept it up on his site for the rest of his days, it made me very proud to be part of the program, HIS work, not "she who shall not be mentioned"

Hope Moore CRUSHES those creeps who attacked Andy, that would be HUGELY JUST.

Good Job!

Get the "Rove's
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 07:02 AM
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112. Beautiful. I loved seeing your tribute again.
:cry: :hug:

We will never forget and we won't ever give up the fight. Andy was a great teacher!

Solidarity!:patriot:
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 09:55 AM
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113. .
Edited on Fri Apr-14-06 09:59 AM by paineinthearse
self-deleted

(I was going to post a link to Benburch's profile/IM address, but see he already replied to the thread).
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 10:16 AM
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114. How Does Moore's Producer Feel About Second-Hand Information On Andy?
Edited on Fri Apr-14-06 10:17 AM by arwalden
You know what would REALLY have the biggest emotional impact? I'm guessing what the movie probably needs is first-hand information and an actual on-screen interview with either Ted or Andy's mother.

What was the reaction when you contacted Andy's family directly? You're pretty close with Andy's family, right? Did you get a good sense of how they were feeling about it all? Do you think the chances are good that either of them will be willing to appear on film?

I imagine that they are busy moving on with their lives and all... but I would think that for something as important as this, they would do this for Michael Moore, and for Andy of course.



edit: typo.
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 10:36 AM
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115. y'all...I know everyone is excited and all, but...
I talked to one of the MM folks yesterday and they'd like to keep the whole thing low profile for now. Don't want to even accidentally dredge up the same kind of freeper shitstorm we had prior to Andy's passing.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 11:35 AM
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116. Here is Will Pitt's eulogy for Andy:
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