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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 02:30 PM
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Interesting (civil) exchange with a RWinger...
I was getting lunch when a guy came in the restaraunt asking if anyone had jumper cables. Being as I never leave home without them I said yes and we went out to his car.

He noticed the anti-W sticker I had and commented that he had a lot of friends who were Repub who were feeling that way. I mentioned that I've always been Against W, and I really don't trust Bush or any of his cronies.

He laughed and said that he volunteered on both Bush campaigns, but still supported him. I asked why, despite all that's gone on - and his reply?

"I never back down - it's just unconscionable for me. Republicans have to stand by their man no matter what..."

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Caoimhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 02:31 PM
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1. Yes the Tammy Wynette Commandment
I've heard that from them too. It's sad. I'm sure a few Germans stuck with Hitler until the end too.
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lostexpectation Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 02:41 PM
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6. LOL
perfect new name for repubs!!!
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Caoimhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 02:42 PM
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7. The Tammy Whine-ettes? n/t
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 02:52 PM
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10. But Tammy dumped George Jones. n/t
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 02:33 PM
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2. Ah, a member of the Flat Earth Society, too, no doubt.
nt
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 02:33 PM
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3. That's why they have been winning a lot
I think Dems need a little more blind loyalty..at least until we get some power. LOL
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 02:34 PM
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4. That statement explains the 35% that approve of Bush
they're too damned hard-headed to think they might be wrong or disloyal. Hitler had many followers like this guy.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 02:37 PM
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5. Too proud to admit they are wrong
That's why they don't want to hear any of that bad news coming from Iraq. It reminds them of their failures and they don't want anyone else to see it. Pride. A sin??
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 02:43 PM
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8. We were born to think and revise. ....... n/t
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 02:47 PM
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9. The die hard Repub base would vote Hitler if he was the Repub candidate?
you should have asked him that. It is always my response to inane idiotic stances when they are thrown at me by die hard "I always vote Republican" righties
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DUHandle Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:01 PM
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14. Heh, heh
The die hard Republican base would vote Hillary Clinton, were she their anointed one.
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:04 PM
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15. You got that right. Put an (R) at the end of that name
and you are OFF to the races with them.
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Kashka-Kat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 02:52 PM
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11. What Id want to ask .... can he support /stand by his man but still
do his civic duty and SPEAK UP about things that need fixin... how is that "backing down"? He doesn't have to join the democratic party or get anti-Bush bumperstickers or watch Michael Moore movies ... just do some simple time honored things like writing or phoning representatives.

Still... good for you & he for having a civil discussion
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 02:57 PM
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12. I think politics is about branding and identity
Once people identify with a party, you can scream about issues until you're blue in the face. Repubs identify themselves as tough, moral, and rational, Democrats identify themselves as smart, tolerant, and idealistic.

Democrats can either work hard to better brand themselves as something more Americans will "buy", or wait for a few issues to make someone go against their own self-identity. I think the latter is highly unlikely.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:01 PM
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13. Doesn't matter that this is the most immoral, corrupt, dangerous
administration since the days of the Founding Fathers? Just don't admit you're wrong? That your boy is a corrupt simpleton because dear Lord, gotta stand firm and never admit their mistake.

What a buffoon.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:08 PM
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16. He's the President, not your child
Unconditionally loving a politician, any politician is just weird. Democracy depends on holding our leaders accountable. I just don't understand this mindset.
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:09 PM
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17. Also, look up confirmation bias in google or a psych textbook
It's a lot like cognitive dissonance. People just don't retain the information that contradicts what they already believe. They especially retain information that confirms what they already think--confrimation bias.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:50 PM
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18. This is really stupid...
Of course! But it's stupid for this reason (among others):

Suppose you have an employee that's stealing from the till and starting fights. Are you going to turn your head and pretend he's not doing it? Yet this is exactly what Bush is doing, and RWers conveniently forget that Bush works for US, not the other way around.
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