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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 11:51 PM
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Could the state abortion bans prompt another Terri Schiavo reaction?
Edited on Mon Mar-06-06 11:54 PM by Armstead
It's obviously bad that a number of states have decided to take a giant step back into the Dark Ages by imposing abortion bans in hopes of overturning Roe V. Wade nationally.

However, could that wake up the majority of Amerians to their imperiled freedom in the same way that the Terri Shiavo case did? Could one case on a human level of the consequences be the trigger?

In the Schiavo case, it became obviouis to most people that the right wing busybodies went too far and overreached when they tried to meddle in that family's tragedy. And it caused a giant reaction against them, when Americans -- including many conservatives -- stopped and said "Wait a minute. I don't these jerks or the government taking away my freedom to make that very personal choice."

Could that happen again regarding this issue, when peope realize that their own freedom of choice is being threatened by a noisy minority? Or not?
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:01 AM
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1. I know the harder they push, the more people decide
they really don't want to go back to that horror show of women butchered by amateur abortionists.

For example, South Carolina is now narrowly prochoice, the first time in their history.

There is nothing like blatantly taking away a right to make people angry. There is no way to wrap this one in the flag, although they do try to hide it behind a cross. It represents injustice, loss of freedom, and, in too many cases, dead women.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:29 AM
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6. But only if you're paying attention
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:10 AM
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10. I just wish that the left would push back harder.
I am tired of playing deffense with the fundies. I want to go on the offense for a change.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:04 AM
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2. I think all us women need to go out into the desert and have
a burning man festival of our own. No men allowed, except maybe the straw ones we will burn in effigy for interfering with our rights.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:06 AM
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8. "all us women"? Be sure to invite Ann Coulter, Katharine Harris, ...
... Midge Decter, Michelle Fox, Condi Rice, Elizabeth Farah, Laura Schlessinger, Genevieve Wood, Dr. Pamela Smith, Patricia Heaton, Nancy Grace, Anne Northup, Peggy Bohanon, Elizabeth Dole, Hunter Tylo, Holly Coors, Christina Hoff Sommers, Rita Cosby, Kay Bailey-Hutchison, Nicola Case, Dolores O'Riordan, Barb Van Andel-Gaby, Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, Kellyanne Fitzpatrick, Janet Parshall, Kay Coles James, Gov. Joan Finney, Lynne Cheney, Beverly LaHaye, Sharon Weston, Lindy Boggs, Phyllis Schlafly, all the Conservateve Women of America, ... etc. (I'll buy the movie.)

While some around here seem to think the "enemy" is male, perhaps the following article might be food for thought (in between rageaholic episodes). While it's the Washington Toilet Paper, the hard information presented might cause one to ponder the viability of male-bashing as an effective strategy. (I'd guess that people like the individuals named above are laughing their head-infested asses off at the misdirection.)

Pro-life women shift to majority

By Grant Schulte
THE WASHINGTON TIMES


The balance between pro-choice women and women who say abortion should be outlawed or severely restricted is shifting toward the pro-life side, bumping that group into the majority in the debate over reproductive rights, according to a new national poll.

Fifty-one percent of women surveyed by the Center for the Advancement of Women said the government should prohibit abortion or limit it to extreme cases, such as rape, incest, or life-threatening complications.

The findings, with a 3 percent margin of error for the 1,000 women surveyed, tips the scale from the last sampling in 2001, when 45 percent of women sided against making abortion readily available or imposing only mild restrictions. Only 30 percent support making it generally available, down from 34 percent in 2001, the survey found.

The New York-based center that sponsored the survey is a nonpartisan advocacy group for pro-choice women's rights. The center's president, Faye Wattleton, headed the Planned Parenthood Federation of America for 14 years.

<snip>

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:09 AM
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9. I meant us DU women.
Edited on Tue Mar-07-06 01:18 AM by Cleita
I think Ann Coulter and the rest would be good candidates for in effigy burning as well. We'll burn them alongside the men they enable.

On edit: This is really about our reproductive organs and we women sometimes need to be seperate from our menfolk every now and then to bond and discuss what we share in common.

I would no more dream of wanting to tell men what to do with their reproductive organs like circumcision, vasectomy and even castration if it comes to that. It is their personal decision, so we women also need to be able to make those personal decisions important to us and now the freedom to do so is being taken away from us. We need to band together to fight this.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:09 AM
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3. Maybe. I think it depends on wether the poll results we've heard
about the wide majority of people in the US wanted some restrictions on abortion, but that it shouldn't be overturned are real or not. I can tell you as a female who personally believes abortion is murder and would never have one, I don't think I or the STATE should have the right to impost those beliefs on others! I've a lifelong Dem, and a Catholic, but I think the idea of any religion imposing it's beliefs on others is absolutely WRONG!

If there are enough people who believe it's no business of the STATE to impose it's will on abortion on the people, then there will be a severe backlash! The Schiavo case will look like a speeding ticket in comparrison.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:22 AM
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4. There would be a severe backlash
The family, not the government, should make these decisions. Let the GOP keep pushing their big government positions.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:30 AM
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7. Right
Isn't Dean now framing the debate as privacy vs. non-privacy? I think that is the best way. Lots of people were against the politicians and other butting into the Schavio deal.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 09:03 AM
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11. It's ironic
The same right wingers who claim to be against "big government" are in favor of big government in cases of personal freedom to impose their own values on everyone else.

But maybe, as my original post noted, this will seprate the phony conservatives from the ones who are at least consistent in terms of being against big government.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:28 AM
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5. Maybe
When O'Conner retired USA Today had an article on her and they had a statics poll that said 68% of those polled were for keeping Roe v Wade. Not that they were for abortion but they are for keeping the law. I hope so anyways.
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