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chitty Donating Member (918 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:09 PM
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Save Air America Phoenix
On March 1, 2006 our Air America Phoenix station was bought by a Christian Broadcasting company who immediately took us off the air. This was a dark day for progressive talk radio in America. You have flooded us with emails pleading to get Air America back on the radio and asking how you can help. We have heard your cries and we can get us back on the air by April 3, 2006 !

The former staff of Air America Phoenix has negotiated a deal to resurrect operations at a new home effective April 3, 2006 but we need your help! We must immediately raise money to cover our operating expenses out of the gate. Our goal of $500,000 will guarantee us a home for years to come.

http://saveairamericaphoenix.com/

If anyone can help, the people of Phoenix sure need your support!!!!!

Thanks.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:14 PM
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1. Who got all the money from the SALE to the Chrisitian company?
Why aren't they investing again if it was such a profitable company? Something doesn't smell right here.
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chitty Donating Member (918 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:16 PM
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2. This is a new venture
and does not have anything to do with the old KXXT 1010. Treat that as a death and what was. This is a rebirth, with a new team spearheaded by Dr. Mike. They did not reap any of the rewards from the sale of 1010. That went into someone elses pocket.
If I understand this properly, they have the initial money to get the station going, but any new venture needs reserve cash, and this sight will provide that money.
After the station went dark, there was an outpouring of folks who kept asking what they could do to help the station get back on, and one of them was to offer donations. Well, here's everyone's chance to donate if they are inclined to do so.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:31 PM
Response to Reply #2
57. Mike Malloy just announced your website on the air.
Maybe you should post the link to it. I forgot already.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:19 PM
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3. Here a K&R to put you on the GP
nt
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Bryan Buchan Donating Member (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:20 PM
Response to Original message
4. I will send this information to everyone on our AZ PDA list
hopefully it will help generate some donations.

Peace

Bryan Buchan
AZ State Coordinator, PDA
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:21 PM
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5. K & R
n/t
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:23 PM
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6. Malloy just plugged this site n/t
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:23 PM
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7. I'm kind of confused
Is this to help a company buy an existing radio frequency?
Why not sell advertising? When I was in Phoenix in December it sounded as if there were plenty of advertisers.
What kind of guarantee that this new station owner won't renig and sell to another Christian broadcast company?
Where is AAR in this?
Thanks.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:44 PM
Response to Reply #7
23. I agree with you - if this is real, WHO would own the new AARPHX?
Why should we raise money for them to start a new company that they'll just sell off again and make a butt load of money? Even if this is "real" it's still a scam.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:03 PM
Response to Reply #7
76. *** DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO MY COMMENT BELOW ***
The site is legit. DONATE!
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:23 PM
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8. This smells like a scam - sorry but that website has NO
identifying information. It just claims to be organized by the "Air America Phoenix" former staff - why aren't their personal photos up there? Why aren't their email addresses there? No personal messsages from individual staff members, why not?

Looks fake - there is ZERO credibility on that site.
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chitty Donating Member (918 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:29 PM
Response to Reply #8
10. Think what you want
but this IS NOT a scam.
I know these people and they all worked for KXXT. They are dedicated and want this to work.
It was plugged by Malloy and they have already contacted Ed.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:31 PM
Response to Reply #10
12. Then why don't you have PHOTOS of the former "staff members"?
It would lend creditability to the site. Anyone can set up a site with "graphics" but so far I see nothing that prooves the claims made on the site. Only graphics.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:26 PM
Response to Reply #12
53. see post 38, both Mike Necomb and the Truth to Power hour had linked
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:52 PM
Response to Reply #53
73. Hey AZDemDist6 - got a question
Now that the issue of credibility is water under the bridge, should I "self-delete" my earlier posts that did question it?

I've never wanted to do that but I think this time it might be a good idea. Whaddya think?
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:55 PM
Response to Reply #73
74. if you've still got time, that would be great
so many just scan the post titles and if some of the negativity could be scrubbed, it'd rock

:yourock:
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:01 PM
Response to Reply #74
75. Bogus - Time ran out for editing....
Edited on Mon Mar-06-06 05:02 PM by file83
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:06 PM
Response to Reply #53
77. one more little kickeroo.. n/t
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Epiphany4z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:34 PM
Response to Reply #8
13. Malloy just plugged this site
I just heard it on Randi Rhodes show Mike is filling in.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:38 PM
Response to Reply #13
17. Yeah, but does Malloy actually KNOW who set it up or is he
just getting suckered into it like Oprah Winfrey did with the author of a "Million Little Pieces"?
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Tulum_Moon Donating Member (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:36 PM
Response to Reply #8
15. If it is a scam
It is a right wing neocon scam. Trying to scam money from the good honest people trying get out solid information to the masses.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:26 PM
Response to Reply #8
54. I agree.
This is AAR business, not ours.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:30 PM
Response to Reply #54
56. unlike Slanthead and oLiely, AAR doesn't PAY to get there programs
on the air, we need to find a new home for Phoenix and these guys are doing it.

check back in a couple days huh?
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:34 PM
Response to Reply #8
62. Get fucking real...until you have some facts stating otherwise, reach
into your pocket pull out a ten dollar bill and help out...

The progressives of Phoenix will thank you...
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:50 PM
Response to Reply #62
72. The issue has already been resolved for me...
Sorry to have aggrivated you.

The website I was questioning has already made changes to their site in the last 45 min because they realized it was lacking some credibility. As it turns out - they will probably be even adding celebrity support photos as well (as I had suggested).

Again, this issue of credibility is done. (chitty the OP prooved it for me)
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:28 PM
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9. This smells like a scam - sorry but that website has NO
identifying information. It just claims to be organized by the "Air America Phoenix" former staff - why aren't their personal photos up there? Why aren't their personal email addresses there? No personal messsages from individual staff members, why not?

This smells exactly like a scam - there is ZERO credibility on that site.

Besides, the company was NOT sold on March 1, 2006. It was sold in 2005, but the Christian Broadcast company that bought it didn't shut down Air America until just recently. So even the basic "story" behind this scam is wrong.

Who is Billy Foster anyway? He's the guy that registered this site and he was NOT a former Air America "staff" member.
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chitty Donating Member (918 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:30 PM
Response to Reply #9
11. Man are you wrong
Bily was a KXXT staffer.
A very valued one at that.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:34 PM
Response to Reply #11
14. Then who are you? Were you a staffer?
I notice you have a new DU membership as well, just in time to promote that money grabbing website.

You still haven't answered the question as to why there are no photos of people like Mike Newcomb on the saveairamericaphoenix website. Why not?
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chitty Donating Member (918 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:00 PM
Response to Reply #14
31. What's your issue?
I was the first advertiser on AAR Phoenix and a very strong supporter.
Also these people are my friends. And i respect them.
I don't post a lot because I own my own business and it takes up a lot of my time.
If you don't want to believe this is real than don't.
And by all means don't donate.

Oh yeah I also photo shopped myself in between Randi and John her producer.

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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:10 PM
Response to Reply #31
43. That's, that's NOT RANDI!!!
She doesn't have a purse that color!!!

FREEPER!!! FREEPER!!!!
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:12 PM
Response to Reply #43
44. ROFL
chitty is a great guy and has been an advertiser on AARPHX since day one!
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chitty Donating Member (918 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:14 PM
Response to Reply #43
46. One must look at
her necklace, watch, and top (read blouse) to realize the purse blends.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:35 PM
Response to Reply #31
63. Now there is an IDEA!!! Why didn't you post this photo in the OP?
I asked you why there weren't photos and then you bite my head off (and don't show them). Glad you are finally catching on to my advice. Was that photo taken upstairs at the Cajun House in Scottsdale? I was downstairs there when Randi visited but I wasn't a VIP, like you.

You could have shut me up at the very start if you had posted that photo, like I asked. :blush:
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chitty Donating Member (918 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 06:14 PM
Response to Reply #63
90. I'm no VIP
but, yeah it was upstairs at the Cajun House.

Also here's one from Durants.



We look like before pictures for a teeth whitening ad.
I don't know if it was the lighting or what, but we was having a good time!
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:24 AM
Response to Reply #31
118. Those people are drinking BEER. This is a scam for beer money!. Actually,
I think it's a fair question to raise. People need to be careful. You will only gain credibility by defending your position with evidence.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:04 PM
Response to Reply #14
35. I can vouch for chitty, he's an advertiser so chill dude! and since your
Edited on Mon Mar-06-06 04:07 PM by AZDemDist6
profile is disabled too, you're one to talk

just saying.....
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:31 PM
Response to Reply #35
58. Give me a break...
...wow, your profile is so revealing too. :sarcasm: So your "vouch" for chitty is very persuasive.

Again, being cautious isn't a fault and it doesn't require people to "chill". Secondly, look at the order in which I posted these statements - you are responding to issues/posts that have already fallen behind in the conversation - so you are reacting to old info.

I've explained myself on other posts - so why don't YOU chill, take some time, and READ the other posts before you start running around telling me to chill after old posts?

:shrug:
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:32 PM
Response to Reply #58
59. this in response to my post 30 minutes ago? and I'm
responding to "old posts"

:rofl:
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Bryan Buchan Donating Member (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:37 PM
Response to Reply #9
16. I just personally called
Jeff Farias, producer of the Mike Newcomb show on the former 1010 KXXT. This site is legit people, please help and donate. The site will soon have a voice recording of Jeff asking/thanking us for the donations, so please help. It is legit. Buy a brick and help AA Phoenix resurrect itself from its ashes. Web site is very very new is all.

Thanks Bryan
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:42 PM
Response to Reply #16
21. Well, they should certainly put up photos/recordings of Mike Newcomb
before anyone trusts it. Anyone trying to raise $500,000 dollars on the internet is HIGHLY motivated to make things appear legit when they really aren't - even pretending to be someone they are not. Just sayin' - if you've never spoken with Jeff Farias, how do you know what his voice sounds like?
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:02 PM
Response to Reply #9
32. relax dude, just bookmark the site and check back. they just got it up
and are tweaking in the info. they are going to post all the escrow account info, along with some audio messages from the hosts

take a chill pill already huh?
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:12 PM
Response to Reply #32
45. No kiddin'.
Damn .... I thought I was a drama queen.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:24 PM
Response to Reply #32
51. So if I was acting so irradically to require a chill pill, then tell me...
...why are they adding more info to the website as we speak? Obviously it's because the site was in fact VERY questionable when this OP first posted that LINK. There are web scams going on all the time - so I'm SORRY :sarcasm: for trying to warn our Democratic/Liberal friends that they might be getting scammed out of their hard earned $$$.

I obviously had valid concerns otherwise they wouldn't be changing the site, so don't tell me to "chill".

I voiced my original concerns and asked the OP to explain some of my concerns - but they gave evasive answers - so that raised a red flag and I, in return, raised the stakes.

I'm glad that they are getting their act together finally - I happy to help!
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:28 PM
Response to Reply #51
55. that's why we rushed here to support the OP and get the word out
I called them both myself with the same concerns

no worries....

and nothing needs to be done TODAY, just bookmark the site, check out Dr Mike's and the TtPH sites and if you think it's worthwhile, come join us!

:bounce:
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:40 PM
Response to Reply #32
68. can somebody post this over at dKos? I don't have an account n/t
Edited on Mon Mar-06-06 04:41 PM by AZDemDist6
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 06:39 PM
Response to Reply #9
91. I think you protest too much...
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:40 PM
Response to Original message
18. Can non AZ People sign?
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:47 PM
Response to Reply #18
25. yes, it's for donation from everybody! n/t
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:41 PM
Response to Original message
19. do a DNS whois on the site:
Edited on Mon Mar-06-06 03:43 PM by LSK
Registrant:
Bily Foster

Phoenix, Arizona 85048
United States

http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/index.jhtml

edit: removed address for privacy reasons.

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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:07 PM
Response to Reply #19
37. did it match the LLC addy on the website? in Cave Creek? n/t
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:36 PM
Response to Reply #37
64. go to my link and put in saveairamericaphoenix.com
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:41 PM
Response to Original message
20. I just called, the $$$ is going into an escrow account at PayPal
this is the real deal folks, they are trying to get it done by April 1st

Let's go!!!!!

:bounce:
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:43 PM
Response to Original message
22. Donated!
Good luck!
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:47 PM
Response to Reply #22
24. Why are WE donating to the start up of a FOR-PROFIT company?
This doesn't make any sense - it's not like this is NPR. This is a group of people that just recently made a BUNCH of money selling off the original AARPHX radio station (which was profitable) and now they want it's loyal listeners to GIVE them money so they can just sell it off again (for more money)?

If AAR wants to start another radio station, why can't they get REAL investors?
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:47 PM
Response to Reply #24
26. Don't donate.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:52 PM
Response to Reply #26
29. I just want people to THINK about it.
And no, I'm not donating to it.

1) I don't even trust the credibility of the website in question
2) Even if I did, the whole principle of the matter is bullshit.
3) If AAR is selling off radio stations for $$$, then they can do that, but don't expect the loyal listeners they just abandoned to give them more $$$.

To AARPHX: Thanks for nothing.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:56 PM
Response to Reply #29
30. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:09 PM
Response to Reply #30
40. Word!
I think after listening more of the previous posters rants ...... I'll donate MORE money!
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:15 PM
Response to Reply #30
47. I'm an IDIOT? There is no reason to resort to name calling.
In fact, I'm pretty sure that violates the DU's rules for these message boards, but what do you care?

You are correct that I was wrong about the ownership in the business deal, but even so....

For you to say that Air America had "no say" in the subject is BS and you know it. "SAY" = $$$, and if AAR didn't want to find investors (nationally) to help give them some "say($$$)" to counter the offer then that was their choice. Why didn't this fund raising drive occur BEFORE the sale went through?

Why didn't AARPHX try and raise the money (they had a VERY profitable radio business) to buy the station themselves? There is no way AAR did NOT know about the offer on the table by the Chritians - no way - becaue the radio station (of course - basic business 101) would have talked to AAR to give them a chance to counter offer (and make more $$$).

But as you say, I'm an "idiot", what do I know?
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:22 PM
Response to Reply #47
49. as with everything, politiking backstage was involved
the Xtians bought the two stations the owner had, the station manager tried to pull off a deal

he failed and has accepted a job in LA

now the local hosts and producers are stepping in.

:shrug:
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:24 PM
Response to Reply #47
50. You object to IDIOT, but have no problem yelling SCAMMER = THIEF
did you try to be reasonable? Ask "who is this, can anyone vouch for them, what's the plan" in a calm, reasonable tone?

NO, let's find your words...

"Even if this is "real" it's still a scam"
"This smells like a scam"
"just getting suckered into it"
"I notice you have a new DU membership as well, just in time to promote that money grabbing website."
"I don't even trust the credibility of the website in question"
"Even if I did, the whole principle of the matter is bullshit."
"To AARPHX: Thanks for nothing"
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:40 PM
Response to Reply #50
67. now you are s t r e t c h i n g . . . .
I did ask - I suggested to post photos - none were provided until WAY later after many unverifiable posts. Now there is one and I'm satisified.

None of those posts you quoted from me are "personal attacks". Nice try though.

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chitty Donating Member (918 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:24 PM
Response to Reply #47
52. You are not an idiot.
Just misinformed and skeptical.
Read Jeff's post near the bottom of the page.
He was a personality on KXXT.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:46 PM
Response to Reply #52
70. Tell Jeff to put an audio message on the site (if you can)
because their voices are how most of us identify them. Photos wouldn't hurt either. (Thanks for posting yours with Randi Rhodes). If she is behind this move (supports it) then they should BY ALL FUCKING MEANS get Randi's photo on the saveairamericaphoenix.com website.

It would:

1) give creditibilty
2) give celebrity status
3) add sex appeal (I like Randi)
4) Give "life" to the site.

If I was trying to pull this fund raiser off, that's what I would do.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:49 PM
Response to Reply #70
71. he's working on that, he told me when we talked about an hour ago
thanks for your support! :hug:
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:03 PM
Response to Reply #22
34. thanks ronny!!!! n/t
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:51 PM
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27. Is This 500k For Brokering Time? Real Vague Info
I was just in Arizona and was sad to pop on 1010 in Phoenix to hear a holy roller and then found out about what happened. Sadly, radio is a business that forces sales like these to happen. This station was a "stand-alone"...a small AM operation in a market dominated by large, corporate-owned operations that suck up almost all the advertising revenues in town and the few locals have to fight for the remaining crumbs. It's even more difficult these days when the economic hard times and growth of IPODs and Internet and Satellite radio have eroded local revenues even further. Religious broadcasters have the cash and look for stations in distress like this and pick them up for pennies on the dollar.

The question the site doesn't mention is what the group intends to do to get their station back on the air. Are they looking for a new station to purchase? If so...$500k is really not a lot of money when even dumpy AM stations in that market can still go for $4 million...and that doesn't count the cost of maintenance and payroll. A "full-market signal" will cost $10 million or more.

The 500k could go to brokering airtime from another station...or not owning the station, but just "renting" the airtime. The pitfalls here are that station can also be sold and there's no guarantee the format will survive and usually stations that are willing to sell so much airtime have some major signal problem...especially if it's AM.

Hopefully the "big boys" will come to the rescue for AAR listeners. While I destest Cheap Channel, they have been AAR's largest supporter and have found a lot of success with their stations...and rumor has it that they will be adding more affiliates in additional markets as the year moves along.

If there's someone affiliated with this group, could you please clarify what you'd like to do so the good people here can know what they're investing in and what results to expect.

Cheers...
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:03 PM
Response to Reply #27
33. see post 32
Edited on Mon Mar-06-06 04:04 PM by AZDemDist6
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:07 PM
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36. I'm Interested In Helping...But...
Again, if there's more specifics, I'd like to learn about them. I'm not suspicious of the motives, just how they plan to go about making things happen and then making it survive and last. I've had many years in this business and have seen a lot of good money and intentions end up in frustrations and lost opportunities. I'd like this not to be one of those.

Feel free to PM me if there's more info

Cheers...
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:09 PM
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39. check back to the website in a couple days, they are working madly
I doubt they expected such a response so fast.

more will be revealed ya know?

:thumbsup:
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:17 PM
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48. I'll Be Watching
Again...I'm careful about these things...I'm too close to the forest and too much of a realist when it comes to these things. I'm a strong advocate of establishing strong, local progressive radio operations, but to this point, it's been like herding cats.

If you get any additional info, let me know. I have some "ears" in the Phoenix area that have been sending me some info as well.

Cheers...
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:36 PM
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65. thanks! n/t
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:51 PM
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28. post on KOS, call Ed Shultz, I'm sure he'll put you on the air
In fact do pitches on all the shows, Franken, Hartmann. I know Ed's not a part of Air America but like our station here in Detroit alot of the affiliates carry his show in the afternoon.

Good luck!!
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jeff farias Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:08 PM
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38. AAR Phoenix
My name is Jeff Farias
I was the producer of the Mike Newcomb Show and co-hosted the Truth to Power Hour on KXXT
www.mikenewcomb.net
www.truthtopowerhour.com

Anyone who ever listened to either of these shows will recognize my voice.

The www.saveairamericaphoenix.com is legit.

We have been trying to get the station back on the air since last Wednesday.
We found a station that will lease their facilities to us.
We have most of our advertisers and most of our staff in place.
We had been approaching wealthy Dems in hopes of getting a co-signer on a loan.
In the meantime we decided to launch this site because we have all been inundated with phone calls and emails from listeners asking what they could do to contribute.

The website lists my email and cell phone number
as well as the email for webmaster Bily Foster.
Feel free to contatct me directly.
This is not a scam !

It is open to anyone in the country and if we fail to get back on the air every nickel will be returned through Paypal.
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chitty Donating Member (918 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:10 PM
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41. Thanks Jeff!
C'mon folks we need to get back on the air!
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:10 PM
Response to Reply #38
42. hi Jeff! welcome to DU and thanks for popping in to quell the misgivings
can you let us know how the whole PayPal escrow thing works?

thanks in advance for all you are doing!
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jeff farias Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:33 PM
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60. Air America FOUNDER SHELDON DROBNY
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 07:08 PM
Response to Reply #38
93. you convinced me. . . . . .money well spent. . . . . . . n/t
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 07:27 PM
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101. thanks! n/t
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 11:22 AM
Response to Reply #38
123. Hi Jeff!
Thanks for doing this.

You are missed. It's been a terrible week without AAR.

I will keep this kicked, and spread the word around.
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:34 PM
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61. THE Most important line on the site.
If the Christian broadcasters can raise money from their flock to buy airtime then so can we!
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:38 PM
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66. BINGO! n/t
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:45 PM
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69. can somebody post this over ar dKos? I don't have an account n/t
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Langis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:10 PM
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78. I'm glad we have hope! n/t
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:11 PM
Response to Reply #78
79. If this works in Phoenix...
.. then it could open up the idea to other parts of the country. This venture is CRITICAL.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:21 PM
Response to Reply #79
80. good thought! i hadn't gotten past my selfish reasons LOL n/t
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:23 PM
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81. Call me a skeptic
But every time we have one of the fund raising deals on DU, it turns ugly, with people accusing each other of scamming.

Why not turn to John Sperling, founder of the University of Phoenix, who also lives in that desert hell-hole?

He's rich and supports liberal causes.

http://www.inc.com/magazine/20040401/25sperling.html

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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:34 PM
Response to Reply #81
82. that's not exactly true
but there have been some bad issues

we did raise the $$ for Andy, may he rest in peace.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:36 PM
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83. I'm not saying that there was truth to those allegations
But nonetheless, it did get ugly with accusations flying left and right.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:43 PM
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84. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:47 PM
Response to Reply #84
86. LOOKS LEGIT
this is the page of the listed owner.
http://www.bilyfoster.com/

Appears to be an employee and has a cool turtle..

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grateful581 Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:46 PM
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85. Good luck Air America Phoenix
Edited on Mon Mar-06-06 05:52 PM by grateful581
We can't afford to lose ANY Air America station.

Donate!
I did
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 06:02 PM
Response to Reply #85
88. thanks! n/t
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grateful581 Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 06:56 PM
Response to Reply #88
92. I'm glad to help
I hope some day Air America will make it to Salt Lake.
But I am not holding my breath.
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:49 PM
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87. I'll be happy to donate
and I have no qualms at all about donating to a for-profit radio station. I believe there is no way the Republicans could have come into power without dominating the radio markets and flooding the airwaves with their talking points. And their stations and shows didn't all start out making a profit, they had plenty of help along the way from big donors and the religious fanatics.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 06:02 PM
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89. thanks! n/t
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PBass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 07:12 PM
Response to Reply #89
94. Kicked and Recommended
Too bad about all the negativity in this thread, although there is nothing wrong with healthy skepticism it may have gone a little overboard.

http://www.saveairamericaphoenix.com

I would love to see Air America stay on the air in Phoenix. Can we do this?
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 09:19 PM
Response to Reply #87
113. Hear Hear! It Is The One Thing They Did Correctly
And it is still funded by foundations backed by nascent oligarchs.
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kerstin Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 07:14 PM
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95. Just donated.
Will hit up friends and family too to join the battle.

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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 07:27 PM
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100. thanks! n/t
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 07:14 PM
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96. Are the donation categories at little on the high side?
Sorry to sound like a cheapskate, but $10, $20, $50 should also be acceptable donations.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 07:18 PM
Response to Reply #96
97. No doubt - $1000 dollar donations? Must be nice to have that kind of $$$
to throw around.
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kerstin Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 07:20 PM
Response to Reply #96
98. I gave 10 bucks and already received a thank you e-mail.
I live below the poverty level so even $10 hurts a bit. Just click on "open donations" for smaller amounts.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 07:34 PM
Response to Reply #98
104. thank you so very much kerstin!
:yourock:
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 07:26 PM
Response to Reply #96
99. they explain that on the website since you are buying a pixel
Everyone is welcome to buy our pixels, which are available in 100-pixel 'blocks' (each measuring 10x10 pixels). You will see the homepage is divided into 10,000 of these 100-pixel blocks (hence there are 1,000,000 pixels in total). The reason for selling them in 100-pixel blocks is because anything smaller would be too small to display anything meaningful.

You can buy as many pixels as you like, as long as there are some available (see the live stats in the top right corner of the page). When you buy some pixels, you can then display an image/ad/logo of your choice in the space you have purchased. You can also have the image click through to your own website. However, no obscene or offensive images are allowed.

The pixels you buy will be displayed on the homepage permanently. The homepage will not change and will be tied to the station we secure as our home, and will remain forever linked as the founding sponsors. In the long run, the pixels will offer good value and you will be part of internet history in the making! ......

Why can't I buy one single pixel?
You can't display anything meaningful in one pixel - nor click it easily - so visually, it would be pointless. With thousands of random tiny colored dots all over the place, the site would look horrible.


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PBass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 07:30 PM
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102. If you donate less than 100, you don't get a share of 'ad space'
I'm going to donate 20 bucks, I don't need an ad and that's what I can afford.

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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 07:33 PM
Response to Reply #102
103. you rock PBass! thanks!
:yourock:
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chitty Donating Member (918 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 07:41 PM
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105. Wow !!!!!!
I am overwhelmed by the response. Any amount will help.
Thanks everyone!
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 07:43 PM
Response to Reply #105
106. it isn't even showing up yet chitty
Edited on Mon Mar-06-06 07:44 PM by AZDemDist6
I looked at the list and mine isn't showing, is yours? I sure didn't see you guys on the list either :shrug:
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chitty Donating Member (918 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 08:55 PM
Response to Reply #106
110. Bily told me
it will take about 24 hours or so to be posted.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 08:59 PM
Response to Reply #110
111. that's what jeff said too, so it will be interesting when it all updates
after our dear DUers action

:woohoo:
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 08:29 PM
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107. now it's on dKos too
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jeff farias Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 09:35 PM
Response to Reply #107
115. thanks
Big Eddie is in our plans.

When we started this we had hopes that
1.It would succeed and we'd have our station back.
2.It could provide a template and inspiration to other communities.

Let's face it AAPhoenix wont be the last station that they try to buy out.

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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 10:30 PM
Response to Reply #115
117. good Jeff, Ed is a real good program for the PHX audience nt/
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 08:42 PM
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108. Very, VERY Important note from the Kos post...
Edited on Mon Mar-06-06 09:06 PM by Rosco T.
"So here's the business skinny: the sum for half a year's lease is $500,000. At the end of the lease term an investment group (whose details I'm not disclosing but which is owned entirely by liberals with solid credentials, oh hell, one of them is Air America founder Sheldon Drobney) will either pick up the lease or buy the station. In either event the upshot will be an Air America Phoenix affiliate OWNED and RUN by liberals."

-------------------

Here's the way it works folks, the COMMUNITY shows there is enough support to get (back) on the air and the advertisers see there is support from the listenership so they can make money.

Six months to prove themselves and then... it's gravy, on the air to stay.

THIS IS A MODEL THAT CAN WORK ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND WILL BE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE FUTURE OF NOT JUST AAR, BUT PROGRESSIVE RADIO IN GENERAL.

Get behind it kids... I am.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 08:44 PM
Response to Reply #108
109. cool, thanks for the info Roscoe! does that leave Ed Schultz out of the
Edited on Mon Mar-06-06 08:46 PM by AZDemDist6
mix then?? I sure hope not! Ed goes over very well here in PHX
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 09:08 PM
Response to Reply #108
112. I Agree.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 09:24 PM
Response to Reply #112
114. good posts both! well thought out and smart! if it works here we could
start a movement

or we could all just support FreeSpeech TV and LinkTV and get them on more stations!
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 09:42 PM
Response to Reply #114
116. Radio Is Critical. It Is A Pervasive, Low Cost Way Of 'Mass Communicating'
in the words of Gov. Pappy 'Pass The Biscuits' O'Daniel.

I agree, though, that a 'cable' channel should also be a priority. That is why I renamed the endeavor to the 'Corporation For Progressive Broadcasting'.
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:42 AM
Response to Reply #108
119. This is the kind of info that should have been posted as the first post.
Instead, I had to hunt for basic facts about just what exactly the money would be used for aside from pixels. What are the call letters of the station to be leased?
I can get behind this, but only with some info like you posted.
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:49 PM
Response to Reply #119
126. They WON'T tell you the station call letters in advance...
.. till it's better nailed down.

Doing so gives the Reich a target to blow the deal. Some things MUST be kept confidential.
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 03:27 AM
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120. Kick for the night shift. n/m
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 09:19 AM
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121. I would donate if...
I knew I was getting something in return. The biggest problem I've had with AAR is lack of advertising. I live in Atlanta and see billboards for crappy little radio stations all over town. I have never once seen any kind of advertisement for Air Atlanta.

Why couldn't the Phoenix station make a contest out of it? How bout' letting the donaters vote on an idea for a new billboard? This billboard could be bought for around $5,000 and placed on a major Phoenix highway for one month. They could use it to announce the new station.

I need to know that AAR is trying. Just like the Democrat party, if I don't see a real effort to make a change, then it's going to be real hard for me to donate.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 10:56 AM
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122. kick kick kick kick kick
Please help!

The people of Phoenix are drowing in right wing bullshit!
And the dems have a couple of huge elections coming in November.
We NEED this station.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 11:36 AM
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124. it must be working, the freeps are freaking out on the blog there
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:24 PM
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125. Well on its way the little we can give
and raelity is... if we want this to work, we will have to support it beyond listening
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:21 PM
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127. DU just got a plug by a freeper over there--too funny!!!
the blog is a hoot! scroll down to the "Excellence in Broadcasting" commentor


http://gotstation.com/index.php?go=blog&action=comment&post=2
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Wheezy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 02:52 PM
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128. OH MY! What fantastic news.
And yay, I just got my tax refund!

I can't tell you how sad it is to get into the car, turn on 1010am and realize a preacher-man is on. What a horrific event -- not sure I'll ever get over it. (and I'm married to a preacher-man!)

Thank you so much, Jeff and everybody. I'm headed there now to help. I miss you guys so much!!









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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 03:18 PM
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129. Kick it ...
Mike is talking about this right now.

He also reads these threads because he's been quoting some of posts.
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jeff farias Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 06:39 PM
Response to Reply #129
130. freeps
I noticed a few posts linking to freepers on the blog.
I've been deleting them as fast as I can so the link may be gone.
I trying to follow the lead of DU and have a zero tolerance for the freepoids.
Lots of folks were unhappy about their presence.
Personally, I like to play with the trolls.

Thanks again to all of you for helping us spread the word.


*funny the spell check highlighted freepers but not freepoids.
go figure.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 09:14 PM
Response to Reply #130
132. i think it was great, shows you guys are on the radar
and smacking down "Excellence in Broadcasting" was fun :rofl:
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 09:13 PM
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131. bily just contacted me to get my link up
:woohoo:
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 10:33 PM
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133. kickin'
Az people -
keep this one going.

I want my AAR!
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 11:09 PM
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134. Kick!!!!!!!!
:kick:
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 11:59 PM
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135. link kick
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chitty Donating Member (918 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:28 AM
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136. We need a sane voice on the airwaves!
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DTinAZ Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:45 AM
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137. temporarily offline this morning
Edited on Wed Mar-08-06 10:10 AM by DTinAZ
Bad news....ALL of the websites associated with the AirAmericaPhoenix project are offline this morning (Wednesday). That includes:

saveairamericaphoenix.com
gotstation.com
mikenewcomb.net
airamericaphoenix.com
aaphx.com
bilyfoster.com (he hosts all of the domains, I think)

I called their web host in California and they didn't provide an ETA for bringing everything back online, but I did a little digging and found that they're using EOS-1.net, a Japanese web host based in Los Angeles who features scantily-clad women on their home page.

(on edit: looks like someone plugged the power back in over in Los Angeles...they'll back online)

DT
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chitty Donating Member (918 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:58 PM
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138. Lots of people
are coming through with donations from all over!
Thanks so much.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 11:30 PM
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139. Needs a kick...n/t
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