What is going on with CARTER?

[garybeck]

does anyone have the link to the video of his ra-ra for Bush?

does he really mean what he says?

or is he really calling out for help?





(too much editing... but all for good.... just really looking for a link to the video.. )

[RagingInMiami]

1. Maybe he's trying to get the kool-aid drinking right-wingers

to jump ship. After all, if he approves of the deal and republican senators don't, then bush certainly has lost his mind.

[garybeck]

25. I'm sorry. i just can't believe

that he's telling us, after all we've come to learn in the last 6 years of this lying sack of horseshit, is that we should just TRUST THEM?



something doesn't pass the sniff test on this, at least not for me. which is why i just wanted to look more closely at that video, which no one seems to have. yet.

[mdmc]

2. he is a trusting thoughtful man

the best president of my life:kick:

i saw what he said about the ports and agree. the only reason i oppose the port deal is cause it makes bush look bad.

[msgadget]

4. ROFL! I disagree with your logic but like your honesty!

I admire Carter's Habitat for Humanity work but he is what he is, a conservative at heart.

[Minnesota Libra]

11. So what is wrong with that?? Not every conservative......

....is bad. A few - Carter included - is actually on our side. I don't agree that he is a conservative - many liberals don't agree with abortion on demand either - but he is one of those who "what you see is what you get". At least he's honest, kind, and truly cares about Americans.

[msgadget]

19. I voted for him, something I've never regretted

but he indicated in an interview for his last book - which I bought - his conservative leanings. Perhaps he did it to help out a party that's leaning in that direction in hopes of winning back the majority. I don't hate conservatives and I sure as heck don't hate Carter and I also don't have to agree with or justify what he says just because I like him.

[RagingInMiami]

21. There's a difference between conservatives

And the nazi-cons in office now.

[etherealtruth]

45. Carter is as close as I get to having a hero ...

The man speaks what he believes, from his heart. I don't think he's beholden to a particular ideology (though I DO believe he comes out on the progressive side 9x out of 10).

As stated above, I oppose the port deals because they make the Chimp look bad.

[RagingInMiami]

20. But even if he is a conservative at heart

how does that explain his support of the port deal?

[msgadget]

43. Sorry, i went to sleep after posting!

I was going with the theme conservatives favor business and free trade. Not only that, but Carter thinks everybody's good, deserves a chance - he's truly a Christian. If he favors this deal it's probably because he doesn't believe in discrimination. And, opposition to the deal smacks a bit - to some - of xenophobia.

In answer to your other post - the guys in office right now are NOT conservatives! There's no fiscal responsibility, no small government, no moral values behind any decisions...

[RaleighNCDUer]

10. The only reason I oppose it is because the royals who own the

company involved in the port deal are the same ones who owned 70% of the terrorist bank BCCI that was shut down by Kerry's investigation of the same. Even if they were in it for the money rather than the ideology, they lost a lot of money when it was shut down.

Of course, no one over there ever carried a grudge about such things.

[mdmc]

32. I doubt that you have a link

when has John Kerry ever been a financial investigator?

Perhaps we are using (our Bush induced) FEAR of arabs, a fear that links all arabs to 9-11-01. In a "you are with us, or you are against us world", arabs SHOULD NOT own our ports.

[RaleighNCDUer]

39. The links are too numerous to list - just google John Kerry BCCI

Read all about it.

Can you think of any Arab country that is not tied to terrorism? There are certainly many Muslim countries that are not, but not all Muslims are Arab. Even a staunch ally, like Jordan, is a source of terrorism, even as it fights its own fight against it. But if Jordan was buying the ports, I'd not object. If Egypt was buying the ports, I'd not object.

There are direct connections between the UAE royals and Bin Laden.

Please, do yourself a favor, and read up on it.

ON EDIT: Here's just one. Look at section 14.

http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/1992_rpt/bcci/

[ThomWV]

46. MDMC - Let Me Tell You Something

I happen to agree with you and have made similar statements here and elsewhere myself. What I wanted you to know is that your last phrase will probably be noted and copied on some right wing web site as an indication of the inherent dishonesty of Democrats. They did it to one of my comments and you's is prime for picking too. Please be careful, don't arm the no-nothing Americans who would misuse your perfectly reasonable sentiment.

[napsi]

3. Sorry Folks......

The man is getting senile. He should stick to Habitat for Humanity and leave the fighting to those who can still fight. He never was good at defending a position.

[tkmorris]

5. Horsepucky

[RB TexLa]

13. defiantly

no senility, he's still sharp as ever. I do hope the poster was saying that because they disagree with what he said and not the fact that he as most everyone his age speaks a little slower.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

8. bullcrap

I've heard several of his interviews lately... and he's as sharp as he ever was.

[napsi]

14. Carter caved into the Republicans

when he was Governor of Ga. What you ask? He allowed the republicans to roll back (in a state completely under democratic control) tax increases on corporations and property values over 500K. This was in 1974. He completely boondoggled the redistricting plan which has implications even today. Carter never had a spine....In my humble opinion.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

16. Since I was in diapers when he was gov. of Georgia

I'll have to look into that. I've not looked into his history before becoming the Prez. I'll get back to you...

[Nashyra]

15. Have you ever met him?

I have and he certainly is not senile.

[napsi]

17. I lived In Ga for 25 years....

I worked on his campaign for Governor as a "runner". He was a disappointment to me.

[mdmc]

34. He has been the best president in my lifetime

:kick:

[mdmc]

33. the only better spokesperson we have is Gore and Dean

sure, I like the lefties (Kucinich, McKinney, Hinchey, Bernie Saunders), but ain't no one listenin to em none!

[Viva_La_Revolution]

6. I can't find the thread from a few days ago but...

I think he was being crafty, he said something about being sure that b*sh had appointed people who were capable in their job, then watching the hearing where the dems called them to task for not doing the job correctly.... give me a minute.. I'll find it...

on edit - this is what I said...

After watching the "hearing" today...
that crafty old man! I busted out laughing when I read it, it was revealed today that none of the people charged with making this decision spoke to the 911 commission (who tied hijackers to Dubai) or members of the investigation into terror links there in the 90's.

Total incompetence and not following the rules. Bad Repugs! :spank:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2122529#2127828

[upi402]

7. Carter will be 10 times more intelligent than * even after he's passed

:patriot:
I can't imagine criticizing him for being absolutely set up by Reagan and the same cabal we are under today.
And the damn TV media portrays Reagan as a deity -and Carter as a bungler.
WTF?

"It looks like a ploy" -Leaky Dick Cheney

[garybeck]

26. this is an issue for ME because I repsect his opinion and

I want to know if he is being genuine or not.

if it is a complete setup. then what the F is going on? Why would he do that?

[upi402]

27. oh, i know where you're coming from. No worries there. good question.

my honest answer;
:shrug:

[mdmc]

35. He said that their are steps to approving this transaction

and that (he thought) that this firm was cleared to do business.

[WillyT]

9. Um... He's Been Working On Middle-East Peace For Some Time Now...

Got a Nobel Peace prize for his efforts.

Makes him a statesman, so he doesn't feel he has to get down in the gutter of politics anymore.

Just guessing here, but he might have a clue or two, greater than me or you.

:shrug:

Sorry about the Dr. Seussness.

[upi402]

12. good guess

damn good
:toast:

[Tom Rinaldo]

41. Self delete, wrong post placement n/t

[Citrene]

18. Carter was the first of the "tri-late's" candidates. n/t

Beginning their takeover and control of our government. (also more commonly known as "robber barons")

[RagingInMiami]

22. what's a "tri-late"?

[Name removed]

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[Citrene]

28. It hurts everyone, it really hurts. Perot actually warned us again,

after Eisenhower farewell address to the nation. Perot's life along with his family were threatened in unimaginable ways. He quit.

It is all in front of us, it is real.

BEWARE THE CONGRESSIONAL, MILITARY, INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. Congressional was removed from his speech.

How much are we going to let these CRIMINALS CONTINUE TO GET AWAY WITH?

They put the SOPRANOS to shame.

I've had enough.

[Swamp Rat]

30. Yeah, let me off this bus to Hell

I've had enough too.

[sandnsea]

23. Danny Glover supports it too

Some people really believe that globalization means we have to turn our industries over to foreign counties too. We have our companies setting up operations all over the world, those countries think it's only fair to have some of their companies in our country. I completely disagree with the whole thing because global trade will never lift up the poor as long as corporates make the rules. I understand their point of view, I just think they're missing the reasons it isn't working.

[mdmc]

37. with all due respect

what "will" lift the poor out of poverty? I like fair trade, free trade. I don't really oppose this deal, other then the fact that opposistion makes Bush look bad.

[sandnsea]

40. Equitable, Just, economies

We don't have that, not here and certainly not in third world countries. We have a capitalist rape, is what we have going on.

[Peter Frank]

29. Great question. Don't give up on Carter...

I think he had a rare lapse in judgment -- that being, he should have absorbed more facts before he prematurely weighed in on a quixotic topic.

Either that, or his family was threatened ;)

[CJCRANE]

31. It's good because it will add to conservative cognitive dissonance:

"well, if Jimmy Carter's for the port sell-off, it's got to be wrong!"

[kentuck]

36. Jimmy Carter is smarter than I am...

...especially in Middle Eastern affairs. I won't try to second-guess him.. One thing: If Carter supports it, the right-wingers will automatically be against it. :)

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

38. He's an honest man who's not falling for the xenophobia.

Or, the Ay-rab bogeyman nonsense. I'm happy to see Boobya squirming, but don't like the anti-foreigner slant put on it by alleged liberals.

[Tom Rinaldo]

42. Who said this: "The deal makes sense..."

"Are there security issues regarding our ports being managed by the UAE? Perhaps, but no more or less than at the ports where China, Singapore, Japan, Taiwan and several European nations do this work here. Foreign countries have been knee-deep in our port management for years, and the UAE has some of the most extraordinary ports in the world. The deal makes sense..."

William Pitt here on DU:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

My point is only that it is possible for someone to be progressively inclined and still believe that technically the U.A.E has the capacity to manage our ports without that being any more of a security risk than having some company from another foreign nation manage it. That opinion is among those out there, and people who hold it have their reasons, and those reasons can't always be boiled down to being a lackey for Bush or being Senile.

[Telly Savalas]

44. That link doesn't work.

I heartily agree with you though.

[mitchum]

47. There are two reasons that I don't care for Carter:

1 He was instrumental in the rightward drift of the party
2 He broke the longstanding taboo of candidates talking about their personal crazyass religous beliefs

I don't care how many freakin' houses he builds, I will never forgive him.