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Terre (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 11:54 AM Original message |
ALERT UPDATE - WMF flaw can't wait for Microsoft fix, researchers say |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
1. What does it take to get people to bail on Microsoft altogether |
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Terre (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 12:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. It's gonna take next to forever |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 01:47 PM Response to Reply #3 |
59. Not forever... Microsoft’s goal is to release the update on Jan 10th |
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Terre (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 01:58 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. LOL - No, I meant that ... |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 02:47 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. Well, of course you did. |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 12:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. When Linux and Mac support the large number of apps/games. |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 12:38 PM Response to Reply #5 |
26. sourceforge.net (tons FREE of software) & a macmini costs $500 |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 12:43 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. LOL You have got to be joking... |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 01:00 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. no - there are plenty of quality open source programs |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 01:06 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. LOL. You telling me what type of computer to use and what to play |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 01:34 PM Response to Reply #40 |
56. i'm just countering some myths is all |
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Feron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 01:32 PM Response to Reply #38 |
55. I agree that there are many excellent freeware programs.. |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 01:43 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. "Why buy a mac mini as a starter computer when you already have one?" |
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MetaTrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-05-06 08:17 AM Response to Reply #58 |
113. And a pretty good way to avoid pregnancy |
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klook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 01:43 PM Response to Reply #5 |
57. "professionals that have money to burn on a closed system" HA! |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 04:49 PM Response to Reply #57 |
73. thanks...couldn't have said it better nt |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 07:36 PM Response to Reply #57 |
97. For someone that felt the need to state that you don't work for Apple |
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klook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 09:46 PM Response to Reply #97 |
104. Um... |
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skids (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 04:19 PM Response to Reply #5 |
71. Games are the keystone. |
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EvolveOrConvolve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-05-06 02:23 AM Response to Reply #71 |
108. That's absolutely wrong |
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skids (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-05-06 05:26 PM Response to Reply #108 |
117. You miss the point. |
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Singular73 (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 12:06 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. If everyone used Linux, |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 12:36 PM Response to Reply #7 |
23. Linux is harder to exploit because it is not closed source. |
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CornField (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 12:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
25. For some of us, it is a requirement |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 04:53 PM Response to Reply #25 |
76. What apps are you using? nt |
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Xenotime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 01:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
47. What OS do you use? |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 04:50 PM Response to Reply #47 |
74. mac OSX nt |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 03:59 PM Response to Reply #1 |
67. Software availability |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 04:52 PM Response to Reply #67 |
75. are you a gamer? |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 06:25 PM Response to Reply #75 |
92. No, I'm a 3D and video artist |
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WLKjr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 08:51 PM Response to Reply #1 |
102. I can tell you what it will take |
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Brundle_Fly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-05-06 03:42 AM Response to Reply #1 |
109. exactly |
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Tace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
2. That's Odd -- Both Links In Your Post Take Me To Microsoft.com |
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Terre (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 12:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Just fixed my links |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
4. This is not something to panic about... |
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DemNoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 12:08 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. This is indeed very serious |
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sybylla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 06:12 PM Response to Reply #8 |
89. I don't need no stinking patches. At least not unoffical ones |
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Terre (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 07:29 PM Response to Reply #89 |
96. Make sure you set your folder options |
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Terre (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 12:10 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. The choice, of course, is yours |
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FlaGranny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 12:12 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. You know, someone, eventually |
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DemNoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 12:16 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. That is true to some degree |
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FlaGranny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 01:22 PM Response to Reply #12 |
51. Yeah, I know, but |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 12:18 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. That is the problem with this one, YOU ARE WRONG |
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quiet.american (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 12:28 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. This is what happened to me. |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 12:30 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. that is because the patch helps prevent a virus |
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quiet.american (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 01:27 PM Response to Reply #19 |
53. Thanks. n/t |
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Oreo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 12:34 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Are you using XP? |
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quiet.american (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 01:28 PM Response to Reply #22 |
54. Alright! I'll try that as soon as I can. Cheers. n/t |
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quiet.american (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 09:05 PM Response to Reply #22 |
103. At last. That worked. Thanks again for the "prompt." n/t |
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Oreo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-05-06 09:35 AM Response to Reply #103 |
114. Cool... System Restore is a terrible thing |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 04:26 PM Response to Reply #13 |
72. Also previewing pictures can infect the machine. |
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phusion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 12:21 PM Response to Reply #4 |
15. having spent some time in the computer security field |
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Xenotime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 01:20 PM Response to Reply #4 |
50. And to the person who doesn't trust 3rd party fixes... |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 05:29 PM Response to Reply #4 |
83. The 3rd party fix has been publicly scrutinized by loads of security |
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LibertyorDeath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
11. Thank You !! |
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Terre (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 12:24 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. And THANK YOU |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
14. Can eminent domain be used to appropriate this OS for the public? |
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Terre (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 12:28 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. I don't know the answer to that question |
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Hyernel (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
20. Petting my shiny new G5 Dualcore Powermac... |
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leeroysphitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
21. The sky is NOT falling lets do some research... |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 12:36 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Thanks. As I said. Smart PC usage will keep you free of this. |
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DemNoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 12:47 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. NO, it will not |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 12:54 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. By who? Is this exploit that easy imbed in jpg's? How many ppl can do it |
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DemNoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 01:03 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Yeah ok |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 01:08 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. And again I ask. How many people know how to exploit it? |
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DemNoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 01:14 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. plenty |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 05:38 PM Response to Reply #42 |
84. There's a "research" site that posted what is in effect a "how to" on |
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serryjw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-05-06 10:41 PM Response to Reply #84 |
128. Help! Terre suggested I write |
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Terre (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-05-06 10:48 PM Response to Reply #128 |
129. I've decided to piece together some info |
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serryjw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-05-06 10:54 PM Response to Reply #129 |
130. Thanks a bunch! |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 05:50 PM Response to Reply #35 |
86. A .wmf can be disguised as a .jpg, .bmp, other graphic formats. |
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leeroysphitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 02:09 PM Response to Reply #31 |
62. then why isn't it? |
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Feron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 01:11 PM Response to Reply #24 |
44. I disagree. |
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DemNoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 12:42 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. Wrong again |
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Terre (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 12:52 PM Response to Reply #21 |
34. That Symantec advisory was issued 7 days ago |
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leeroysphitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 02:07 PM Response to Reply #34 |
61. I'll take my chances considering that the alternative is to |
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Terre (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 02:20 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. More power to ya |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
27. Official Microsoft WORKAROUND |
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DemNoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 12:44 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Bad information |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 12:50 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Should be sufficient for most users, is what I heard. |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 12:52 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. so far in my office, 90% of people have missed the dll |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 05:54 PM Response to Reply #32 |
87. It's not sufficient. If it were security folks wouldn't be so concerned.nt |
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LiberalAndProud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
36. . |
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troubleinwinter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
37. Hotfix worked for me (XP), BUT |
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CornField (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 01:07 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. In the words of SANS, "This is a watershed moment" |
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Terre (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 01:25 PM Response to Reply #41 |
52. I'm not so sure about that |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 04:12 PM Response to Reply #41 |
70. Microsoft will release a patch. |
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Terre (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 01:11 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. Try asking over at the CastleCops |
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troubleinwinter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 02:12 PM Response to Reply #43 |
63. Thanks. I did. |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
46. Will my Norton anti-virus protect me from this Or should I download the |
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DemNoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 01:18 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Download the fix |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 01:19 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. OK...damn. Thanks. I hate computers. |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
66. Tin foil Hat Time. What if . . . . .? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
68. How about just not running any .wmf files until the smoke clears? |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 04:11 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. No can do |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 05:00 PM Response to Reply #68 |
77. It can be disguised as another graphic format...have any fear of .jpgs? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 05:05 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. I don't view any files from unfamiliar sources, other than plain text |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 05:11 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. see, even you were vulnerable, a system admin no less |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 05:12 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. It's a tough world out there for most people |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 05:27 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. just be glad MicroSlop doesn't make cars |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-05-06 09:40 PM Response to Reply #81 |
125. If MicroSlop did make cars, they'd be based on the Yugo |
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Oreo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 05:28 PM Response to Reply #78 |
82. The wmf's can be renamed to .jpg's and still infect |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 06:23 PM Response to Reply #78 |
91. So you have graphics turned off while you browse? Do you browse in plain |
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Chalco (817 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
85. I downloaded the patch, now my computer doesn't work |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 06:03 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. Are you running XP SP1 or SP 2? If you're in safe mode, go into |
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Chalco (817 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 08:47 PM Response to Reply #88 |
100. The computer wont even go into safe mode. |
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Terre (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 07:52 PM Response to Reply #85 |
98. I was going to refer you to CastleCops |
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Chalco (817 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 08:49 PM Response to Reply #98 |
101. I don't see how it couldn't be the patch. |
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Terre (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 09:53 PM Response to Reply #101 |
105. I really don't know what to say |
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Chalco (817 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-05-06 07:47 AM Response to Reply #105 |
112. Thanks, I'll report back! nt |
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Chalco (817 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-05-06 08:52 PM Response to Reply #112 |
118. My computer guy said a virus got into my computer. |
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Terre (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-05-06 09:04 PM Response to Reply #118 |
121. Did he say what kind of virus? |
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Chalco (817 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-06-06 08:03 AM Response to Reply #121 |
131. I assume that hotfix is gone isn't it. |
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sybylla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
90. A temporary fix that some of you might find a bit more palatable |
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OregonBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
93. MY HUSBAND GOT IT AND HIS COMPUTER IS TOAST. |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
94. Two things for users who aren't interested in the patch: check AV settings |
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Poiuyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
95. Question: How many engineers does it take for Microsoft to make decent |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
99. NOD32 antivirus has released temp patch for W98 thru W2003 FWIW. |
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LibertyorDeath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-05-06 01:52 AM Response to Original message |
106. Kick for the night owls |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-05-06 02:09 AM Response to Original message |
107. CAN ANYONE SPEAK ENGLISH TO A TOTALLY ILLITERATE |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-05-06 04:51 AM Response to Reply #107 |
110. How simple need it be? XP has a recently discovered weakness. It |
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tiptoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-05-06 05:15 AM Response to Original message |
111. kick |
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Terre (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-05-06 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
115. Kicking |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-05-06 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
116. Microsoft will begin issuing its official patch TODAY, January 5. |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-05-06 09:09 PM Response to Reply #116 |
122. Mine has already updated automatically. |
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IDemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-05-06 09:00 PM Response to Original message |
119. The patch is available, I just downloaded it. n/t |
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SharonRB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-05-06 09:02 PM Response to Reply #119 |
120. Did you have any trouble after you downloaded it? |
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Terre (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-05-06 09:13 PM Response to Reply #120 |
123. No trouble here |
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IDemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-05-06 09:21 PM Response to Reply #120 |
124. Had no trouble at all - |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-05-06 10:04 PM Response to Reply #120 |
126. I haven't had any trouble at all. n/t |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-05-06 10:07 PM Response to Reply #120 |
127. Patch works great |
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tiptoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-06-06 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
132. kick |
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